Chung fined for "helmet to helmet"

[Patspsycho]

Chung has been fined $7500 for the "helmet to helmet contact" per the Globe.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

bs. I understand at game speed the refs calling it, but he shouldnt be fined.

 

[makoute]

He led with his helmet, from seeing the replays, and I believe that's a no no.

 

[Bill B.]

What I don't understand is most hits to the QB draw $5000 fine. Why did this one draw a bigger one. There just seems to be no consistency.

 

[upstater1]

He led with his helmet, from seeing the replays, and I believe that's a no no.

He didn't lead with his helmet.

Maybe he could have looked skyward and lead with his chin.

If you're running toward a player, and if you're looking at that player as you're running toward him, you will naturally lead with your facemask.

Unless you believe that you can't make contact with a facemask, then he shouldn't be fined.

That was a good form tackle, he went after the QBs midsection. That being said, he might have hit the QB with the crown on his helmet AFTER making contact with the QB and sliding up his body.

 

[Amnorix]

He didn't lead with his helmet.

Maybe he could have looked skyward and lead with his chin.

If you're running toward a player, and if you're looking at that player as you're running toward him, you will naturally lead with your facemask.

Unless you believe that you can't make contact with a facemask, then he shouldn't be fined.

That was a good form tackle, he went after the QBs midsection. That being said, he might have hit the QB with the crown on his helmet AFTER making contact with the QB and sliding up his body.

So if someone did what Chung did to Brady, you'd be ok with it?

It was an obvious penalty.

 

[Willie55]

He didn't lead with his helmet.

Maybe he could have looked skyward and lead with his chin.

If you're running toward a player, and if you're looking at that player as you're running toward him, you will naturally lead with your facemask.

Unless you believe that you can't make contact with a facemask, then he shouldn't be fined.

That was a good form tackle, he went after the QBs midsection. That being said, he might have hit the QB with the crown on his helmet AFTER making contact with the QB and sliding up his body.

Proper tackling technique is taught as put your helmet to the side, the side that the ball is on in hoping that your helmet will pop the ball out. It's not taught as putting your helmet straight into the guys gut, chest or chin. Plain and simple that was a penalty.

 

[Phokus]

I think part of what killed it for chung was that henne's head snapped back pretty violently, so even if he did hit him with his shoulder pads, it didn't look good.

 

[Pujo]

Aside from not being sure how they figure an amount ($5K, $7.5K, $10K?), I see nothing wrong with the fine. You may initiate a helmet-to-helmet hit, and last I checked the facemask is part of the helmet.

 

[Pujo]

If you're running toward a player, and if you're looking at that player as you're running toward him, you will naturally lead with your facemask.

And you will naturally get a fine. It's not rocket science, you tackle a guy and your helmet hits his, expect a fine.

 

[Warren94]

The league is getting ridiculous... You can't fight physics.

 

[upstater1]

So if someone did what Chung did to Brady, you'd be ok with it?

It was an obvious penalty.

What does that have to do with my post?

 

[ALP]

umm, i think its been proven already that chungs helmet did NOT touch ANY part of henne's helmet OR facemask

and chung DID go to the side....he hit henne on the CHEST, and from henne's perspective it was not in the middle but to the LEFT, and chung never moved any higher after the hit

the head moved back b/c of whiplash

if they want to fine him for the hit, theyll have to call it something OTHER than helmet to helmet, cuz that BS is NOT TRUE

 

[HarkDawg]

Peyton is next




any wagers?

 

[upstater1]

Aside from not being sure how they figure an amount ($5K, $7.5K, $10K?), I see nothing wrong with the fine. You may initiate a helmet-to-helmet hit, and last I checked the facemask is part of the helmet.

Huh? He hit him facemask to chest.

A facemask is part of the helmet and there's nothing wrong with leading with your facemask unless your facemask whacks the opposing QBs facemask (which it didn't in this case). I'd like to see a player make a tackle without leading with his facemask. What would that look like? Would he be looking straight up into the air? Leading with his chin?

 

[olschool]

What I don't understand is most hits to the QB draw $5000 fine. Why did this one draw a bigger one. There just seems to be no consistency.

It's directly related to how much Goodell is betting on the Colts each week.

 

[Pujo]

umm, i think its been proven already that chungs helmet did NOT touch ANY part of henne's helmet OR facemask

This must be a new definition of "proven" I haven't heard of. Certainly wasn't proven to my satisfaction, but who the hell am I? Then again, it apparantly wasn't proven to the NFL's satisfaction either, hence the fine.

 

[upstater1]

And you will naturally get a fine. It's not rocket science, you tackle a guy and your helmet hits his, expect a fine.

I didn't know Goodell was a force of nature. Nature apparently came into being this year.

 

[upstater1]

This must be a new definition of "proven" I haven't heard of. Certainly wasn't proven to my satisfaction, but who the hell am I? Then again, it apparantly wasn't proven to the NFL's satisfaction either, hence the fine.

Right, and the NFL fined Wilfork for tackling Trent Edwards by the waist.

 

[Pujo]

Huh? He hit him facemask to chest.

A facemask is part of the helmet and there's nothing wrong with leading with your facemask unless your facemask whacks the opposing QBs facemask (which it didn't in this case). I'd like to see a player make a tackle without leading with his facemask. What would that look like? Would he be looking straight up into the air? Leading with his chin?

From my perspective watching the game on TV, it looked like either Chung's helmet or facemask hit Henne's facemast, not his chest.