Pat Chung's clean hit on Henne

[Patspsycho]

Sorry off topic a little bit here, but can u explain how u got the screen shot and posted it?

simple: screen capture.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

. File under grassy knoll.

back, and to the left. back, and to the left....:singing:


I agree with ya though. Anyone who has watched impacts on crash test dummies, will understand why Hennes head snaps back the way it did. It looks to me like Chungs hit was good, but im not a ref judging it at game speed. sh*t happens

 

[bresna]

Sorry off topic a little bit here, but can u explain how u got the screen shot and posted it?

Pause the video, hit the Print Screen button on your keyboard, open Paint, edit -> paste, crop the picture and do a Save As (choose .jpg).

 

[TripleOption]

The top of the head.

Chung dropped his head before lauching himself. He should have kept his eyes up.

No, he didn't. He hit him with the cage of his facemask in his chest. It's legal, and all the colleges and high schools are teaching it.

It's called "Chest to chest tackling". It was textbook.

 

[SaCaCh]

My $0.02...

- Perfect form tackle by Chung. He made contact with his head up right on the 7.

- On the shot at time :12, Chung's helmet is about even with the sideline. Advance one frame (a fraction of a second) and Chung's helmet is above the sideline and Henne's head is whipped back. I don't see how anyone can conclude that Chung's helmet didn't connect with Henne's facemask.

- The transition upward of Chung's helmet is too abrupt to be intentional (launching) and his helmet continues horizontal after the initial upward motion. Henne weighs about 20 lbs. more than Chung. Run into a tackling dummy at full speed and see what happens to your head just after the moment of contact. You guessed it. It follows the path of least resistance in the direction of momentum...straight up.

- From Henne's perspective, his chest suddenly accelerates backwards and his neck acts as a point of rotation. So at the same time physics is causing Chung's helmet to suddenly shoot up, Henne's head is suddenly rotating forward. You can see the result. For those of you suggesting that Henne's head jolted backwards as a result of a collision to his chest, I thank God you didn't design the air bags for my car.

So my judgment is a great play by Chung with a little bad luck in how the collision turned out. Definitely a penalty though the abrupt movement makes it look worst than it was. Considering that and the fact that there really wasn't any effective way for Chung to alter the outcome, anything more than a minimal fine would seem excessive. I guess he could have moved slower, but it is called a pass rush, isn't it?

Wow.... finally the right answer! I expect no fine at all but the league may feel the need to do something due to it looking worse than it was.

 

[moosekill]

When was the last time we talked about a hard hit like this? Penalty or not, I was glad someone on this defense is giving opposing QB's something to think about. In the future, this will cause QB's to mess their throws up because they will be thinking about getting smacked around by the Pats blitzing safeties.

Totally agree. Whether or not the penalty was justified, at full speed, with the way Henne's head bounced back it certainly looked like a penalty.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

You need to use the pause button ... never touched the chin ... at all.

Chung's head and chest hit Henne's left shoulder ... ie not the middle of the mask. If he hit the mask it would have been the left side of the mask, the right shoulder and Henne's head would have went to the right ... it went straight back due to his chest going straight back due to the blow to the chest.

I guess the refs don't have a pause button.

 

[Metaphors]

1. The usually unnoticed instinct of any sufficiently evolved animal to separate its own head from its body rather than face PAT CHUNG

2. The pure shock wave of the overpressure caused by a blitzing PAT CHUNG

3. When PAT CHUNG was running toward Henne the earth span faster, causing Henne's lower body then chest, then only finally his head (the top part) to spin forward... the last footstep caused Henne's body to lurch forward without the head following because, well, PAT CHUNG

I cannot believe this entire thread could go this far without these aspects at least explored.

Tim Tebow wears Pat Chung pajamas.

 

[buile]

Bad call no matter who the call was on. If I was a QB, I'd try to hit my helmet against the helmet of anyone sacking me for an instant 1st down.

 

[Rob0729]

Who really cares? The Pats had another penalty on that play which would have given the Dolphins a first down anyway. We won the game. Time to move on.

The refs are going to call that one 9 times out of 10.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Bad call no matter who the call was on. If I was a QB, I'd try to hit my helmet against the helmet of anyone sacking me for an instant 1st down.

You wouldn't be in the league very long.

 

[Kontradiction]

Also ... Burgess's helmet is stuck under Vernon Carey's head and body. Hard to see how Burgess avoids that as it's impossible for him to lift his head up.

Doesn't matter, it's still helmet to helmet contact. Under the current rule system, that's still a 15 yard penalty whether he could have avoided it or not.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I'm shocked that you guys are more interested in whether a penalty was called than the fact that we now have 3 safeties who have shown they'll scare the other team have to death when lining up for a big hit.

 

[Kontradiction]

I'm shocked that you guys are more interested in whether a penalty was called than the fact that we now have 3 safeties who have shown they'll scare the other team have to death when lining up for a big hit.

I've already stated my manlove for them.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I've already stated my manlove for them.

It's almost starting to look like 2003 when we had Rodney and when Eugene Wilson had his big year. Not that any of these guys are Rodney in his prime but this trio is the closest thing we're going to get and it's a reasonable facsimile.

 

[Kontradiction]

It's almost starting to look like 2003 when we had Rodney and when Eugene Wilson had his big year. Not that any of these guys are Rodney in his prime but this trio is the closest thing we're going to get and it's a reasonable facsimile.

In another thread, I called McGowan our Ryan Clark to Meriweather's Troy Polamalu.

 

[WhiZa]

If Henne got a helmet that actually fits he may be a pro bowl QB. His forehead is blocking half of his line of vision.

 

[upstater1]

If Henne got a helmet that actually fits he may be a pro bowl QB. His forehead is blocking half of his line of vision.

He does it for the Will Ferrell look.

 

[mystrymaster]

That was a good call, anything close to it.

If that was TFB and it was not called, you would be here complaining about it.

 

[condon84]

If Brady got hit like this, we'd be up in arms.