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So it sounds like Brady's hit was Brady's fault

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Piecing together the quotes in the Globe this afternoon, it sounds as if the play on which the Bengals player flew by Nick K. was a draw play that Brady misplayed into a passing play. Hence what looked like a miss by our right tackle, for which he was skewered on this board, wasn't his fault at all.

(But of course he was arrested, tried, convicted, and executed right here.)
 
Hardly. Ol' Nick has been acquitted here.
It's been discussed already.
 
it sounds as if the play on which the Bengals player flew by Nick K. was a draw play that Brady misplayed into a passing play.
It wasn't misplayed. Tricking the o-line was the only way TB could get the hard hit he was craving.
 
It wasn't misplayed. Tricking the o-line was the only way TB could get the hard hit he was craving.

He actually took that play out of Favre's playbook.
 
I never played football,other then in the backyard. They wouldnt let girls on the football team.Not sure how this happens. How can Brady miss a call like this? He knows the playbook as well as anyone.
 
I never played football,other then in the backyard. They wouldnt let girls on the football team.Not sure how this happens. How can Brady miss a call like this? He knows the playbook as well as anyone.

Um, because he's human?
 
I'd rather have it be bradys fault. I trust him to fix mistakes over anyone else on the team.
 
I never played football,other then in the backyard. They wouldnt let girls on the football team.Not sure how this happens. How can Brady miss a call like this?
The same way otherwise intelligent people use "then" instead of "than" and leave apostrophes out of contractions. It's called a mistake, a mental error, a slip-up, a moment of forgetfulness. You say "Oops" and move on.
 
The same way otherwise intelligent people use "then" instead of "than" and leave apostrophes out of contractions. It's called a mistake, a mental error, a slip-up, a moment of forgetfulness. You say "Oops" and move on.

I do not care about spelling on a message board. I have to deal with that all day. I did not mean to say Brady was not human.I was wondering how the play calling part gets mixed up. The actually call. Say Brady calls a play how does the Koppen call the oline protection after that? What is the order a play is called? Does anyone understand what I am asking?
 
The same way otherwise intelligent people use "then" instead of "than" and leave apostrophes out of contractions. It's called a mistake, a mental error, a slip-up, a moment of forgetfulness. You say "Oops" and move on.

Wow. I'm going to have to step up my grammar as well this season.
 
Even the best QB of all time,Joe Montana had Brain Farts during some games - Brady is no exception and he will make some mistakes along the way to Canton,its just normal.
 
Don't forget Brady has been away from the game for a year. At the pro level, I don't think it matters how good you are, when you are away from the game that long, you can't just pick up right where you left off. It takes some time for all the small stuff and nuances to come back.
 
I do not care about spelling on a message board. I have to deal with that all day. I did not mean to say Brady was not human.I was wondering how the play calling part gets mixed up. The actually call. Say Brady calls a play how does the Koppen call the oline protection after that? What is the order a play is called? Does anyone understand what I am asking?
Brady makes protection calls, then Koppen makes his, Brady's affect both the big thuglies and the (so-called) skill people, so there are a couple different levels of protection going on.

As for why or how Brady could make a mistake, think of this as driving a car:
-- you are engaged in multiple coordinated activities at the same time.
-- you could have a simple misjudgement (wrong guess at the approaching car's speed, etc.).
-- you could simply not see a hazard because you were distracted by another hazard.
-- you could be totally focused on one aspect of something you were doing (looking in the rearview mirror to judge distance and 'not' looking ahead as you pull up a few feet to re-align your parking approach).

I know from your posts that you are intelligent, but I would bet money you could recall a driving incident, cooking incident, pushing a grocery cart incident where you failed to do one minor thing, or did one minor thing too many, and found yourself exercising the railroad engineer's oath...



Hope that helps.
 
I do not care about spelling on a message board. I have to deal with that all day. I did not mean to say Brady was not human.I was wondering how the play calling part gets mixed up. The actually call. Say Brady calls a play how does the Koppen call the oline protection after that? What is the order a play is called? Does anyone understand what I am asking?

I will try and explain this to you so you can understand it. It is a lot more complex than people just watching the game will understand. I have played O-line for about 8 years now. I played 5 years of college (red shirted one year of course) and 3 years of semi-pro football.

The QB calls the play in the huddle. Everyone comes to the line of scrimmage and they see how the defense is going to line up. Brady will make his adjustment calls as to who he wants blocked (for ex. you will see him pointing at who he is calling the "mike" LB so the O-line will have to make sure he is blocked) and which way the RB will block.

Dan Koppen is in charge of calling out how the line will block those players. There are calls for Max protection where the whole O-line steps down and the RB's pick up the outside rushers, You can man up and just take the man in front of you, You can slide everyone to block to their right or everyone block to their left, You can have one side of the line blocking to the right and the other side man up. Basically there are a ton of combinations of ways to block and the C has to make the call to best make sure everyone is accounted for.

This is where it gets tricky though is you have predetermined blocking schemes for certain plays. You also have an audible color or name that changes the play completely which may also change the blocking scheme. So if Koppen calls out the blocking scheme and Brady changes the play to a play that they block a certain way sometimes it can get confusing. That is why they say O-lineman have to be some of the smartest players on the team because you are always adjusting on the fly.

A quick example for you is like I said I play O-line for a semi-pro team and we had a game last saturday. We called a play in the huddle and our C called our blocking scheme at the line which was to man up and block the guy in front of you. If you don't have anyone in front of you, you look for a blitzing LB or a stunt that will bring a D-lineman right to you. He changed the play to a QB draw out of the Shotgun kind of like this Brady situation. We ALWAYS block down towards the center on the QB draw and let the DE's fly up the field because they will usually take themselves out of the play. He "forgot" that he audibled to the QB draw and set up like he was throwing a pass and got drilled from the DE off of my side. The QB and the coach started ripping my butt about it and then when the offense got together on the sidelines everyone told the coach he audibled to a draw and I was correct.

I don't think that Brady may "forget" but he has a million things going through his mind in a short period of time and breakdowns in protection sometimes will happen. I hope I was able to break it down for you a little further and get you to understand it better. Like I said there are A LOT more complexities to football than a lot of fans will understand without actually playing it. It is just like a chess game.
 
Thanks for that explanation bigcountry!
 
I'd rather have it be Brady's fault. I trust him to fix mistakes over anyone else on the team.

I have every piece of faith in Brady being able to get over making mistakes, and beginning to find his faith that his knee will be fine. I just hope he stays healthy when he makes mistakes like that. He is only human I guess.

I flared too late on a jump once. I hit the ground so freaking hard, and since I wasn't expecting to have to PLF (parachute landing fall), I really messed myself up (it was dark as hell and shouldn't have been trying to flare anyway).

It has taken me a long time to stop flaring too high, and be able to just touchdown.








I like puns.
 
I will try and explain this to you so you can understand it. It is a lot more complex than people just watching the game will understand. I have played O-line for about 8 years now. I played 5 years of college (red shirted one year of course) and 3 years of semi-pro football.

Posts like this are why I love this board, I can learn something new about football every day! Thanks for the quality post!
 
Posts like this are why I love this board, I can learn something new about football every day! Thanks for the quality post!

Yes, post like his make football easier to understand.
 
The same way otherwise intelligent people use "then" instead of "than" and leave apostrophes out of contractions. It's called a mistake, a mental error, a slip-up, a moment of forgetfulness. You say "Oops" and move on.

Heh heh. Looks like someones calling us out too keep an eye on his grammer and speling. Your on!
 
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