NFL owners pass four player safety rule changes for 2009 [merged]

[borg]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

So the defensive player can get pushed into the QB, grab the QBs leg, but can't try to use leverage to bring down the QB. So the possible results are: the defensive player props the QB up until a teammate can come in for the kill shot....or.... the ref blows the whistle because the QB was "In the Grasp". (Unless this occurs in a Super Bowl)

 

[N.Eman]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Is Bill Polian not part of the rules committee anymore? :singing:

HAHAH i was gonna mention that. Either that or he didnt go to the meeting where this rule was decided.

 

[unoriginal]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

If this gets ratified, they should just give up and award sacks based on the artistic merit of the pass rush.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Personally, I don't like it. The league is too reactionary based on one or two isolated incidents (see the Roy Williams law). I think it will hurt defenses more than protect QBs.

I think you might be right on the merits, but the NFL is also entertainment. Brady, Peyton, Big Ben and, yes, even Romo, deliver fans and audiences.

 

[Peekaboo]

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If this gets ratified, they should just give up and award sacks based on the artistic merit of the pass rush.

Hahahaha, that what it's coming down to. Seriously though, it's almost like they're trying to change your instincts when it comes to rushing the passer. You mean to tell me that Pat Williams or some another behemoth of a defensive lineman is actually going to run up to the passer only to stop and think about how to hit him, gimme a break.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Even if, for the sake of argument, we all agree that Wilfork would intentionally injure QBs, the question still remains: why the hell would you want to take JP Losman *out* of the game? If it had happened to a competent NFL QB, I might be willing to acknowledge the likelihood of it.

 

[Brady-To-Branch]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Personally, I don't like it. The league is too reactionary based on one or two isolated incidents (see the Roy Williams law). I think it will hurt defenses more than protect QBs.

Agreed. This will likely screw the Pats defenders with ticky-tac calls.

I think you might be right on the merits, but the NFL is also entertainment. Brady, Peyton, Big Ben and, yes, even Romo, deliver fans and audiences.

Nothing will anger me more than when the defense makes a great play only for the refs to bail out an offense b/c of incidental contact to a QB's knees.

Such officiating will always be subjective. The NFLCC will come down on refs who don't call the new rule enough while others will throw the flag if it looks like a rusher is going for the QB's knees.

If this rule was reviewable, I might hate it less, but this is football and injuries are part of the game.

 

[Peekaboo]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Even if, for the sake of argument, we all agree that Wilfork would intentionally injure QBs, the question still remains: why the hell would you want to take JP Losman *out* of the game? If it had happened to a competent NFL QB, I might be willing to acknowledge the likelihood of it.

I'm not a mind reader so I have no earthly idea. Losman said something to piss him off? Belicheat gave him the order? The Bills had a chance to win? Wait a minute, isn't that the same game Takeo Spkies sacked Brady and we recovered the fumble for a touchdown? Well then, it was because we had a chance to win.

 

[Metaphors]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Nothing will anger me more than when the defense makes a great play only for the refs to bail out an offense b/c of incidental contact to a QB's knees.

This is the part I don't understand about the argument against the rule. If Pollard had made a superior pass rush move or simply overpowered the blocker and Brady got injured as a result, then the league would be foolish to do anything. Pollard came on a blitz and went low on the blocker picking him up. He didn't make a "great play"...he made a stupid play and was fortunate to end up in an area where he could attack the QB.

If you can't stay off the ground when you are rushing the passer, then the rules should force you to get off your damn arse before you continue the pass rush. Otherwise you start to build a cottage industry of inferior players who happen to be able to dive under blocks and launch themselves like a missile at the QB. If you don't like the "Brady Rule", then how about a rule that if you are rushing the passer and end up on the ground, a blocker is free to molest you in any way they see fit. I actually think that rule would end up stopping the knee attacks more effectively. Somehow I don't think that will find its way into the rulebook...unless they bring back the XFL.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Wilfork wasn't flagged for his hit on JP Losman 2 season ago. Which in fact started the Edwards era. Actually, I should be thanking him, lol.

Wilfork wasn't flagged because the Bills guard blocked Wilfork in Losman's direction.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

I'm not a mind reader so I have no earthly idea. Losman said something to piss him off? Belicheat gave him the order? The Bills had a chance to win? Wait a minute, isn't that the same game Takeo Spkies sacked Brady and we recovered the fumble for a touchdown? Well then, it was because we had a chance to win.

Give me a break. Its just stupid to think that Wilfork INTENTIONALLY went at Losman's legs. Please go back and watch the WHOLE video because you'll see that the Buffalo guard was the one taking Wilfork's legs out from under him.. If the guard doesn't take Wilfork down, Wilfork hits Losman in the chest and nothing happens other than Losman feeling like he got hit by a steamroller.

 

[unoriginal]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

If you can't stay off the ground when you are rushing the passer, then the rules should force you to get off your damn arse before you continue the pass rush. Otherwise you start to build a cottage industry of inferior players who happen to be able to dive under blocks and launch themselves like a missile at the QB. If you don't like the "Brady Rule", then how about a rule that if you are rushing the passer and end up on the ground, a blocker is free to molest you in any way they see fit. I actually think that rule would end up stopping the knee attacks more effectively. Somehow I don't think that will find its way into the rulebook...unless they bring back the XFL.

I like it. All cut blocks all the time, since hitting the ground will end a defender's rush.

 

[Synovia]

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I thought the rule was changed in 2006 and there was a 15 yard penalty for hitting QB's below or at the knees.

Seems Vince and Sey were flagged numerous times.

There was. They just don't seem to enforce it.

 

[Rob0729]

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I think you might be right on the merits, but the NFL is also entertainment. Brady, Peyton, Big Ben and, yes, even Romo, deliver fans and audiences.

I understand, but this rule was never in place and how many times has a marquee name been seriously injured in a fashion that would have been covered by this rule.

I guess I am not really opposed to the rule per sea (although I think it will hurt the defensive game more than it will protect QBs). I am more opposed to the league's overraction to isolated incidences and writing rules based on these isolationed incidences.

 

[makoute]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Personally, I don't like it. The league is too reactionary based on one or two isolated incidents (see the Roy Williams law). I think it will hurt defenses more than protect QBs.

I sorta agree with that.

 

[Synovia]

Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

Personally, I don't like it. The league is too reactionary based on one or two isolated incidents (see the Roy Williams law). I think it will hurt defenses more than protect QBs.

************, the last thing the Roy WIlliams law is about is "isolated incidents". There are all sorts of players out of football with leg and back injuries from being tackled that way.

 

[ScottieC]

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I sorta agree with that.

Looks like they did not adopt the Tom Brady rule - But they did pass 4 others.

Four safety proposals passed at NFL owners meetings - ESPN

 

[PatsChamp88]

Source(s):
NFL owners pass four player safety rules for 2009 season
The National Football Post | Stats

Edit: These are the four rules thanks ScottieC for the link Per ESPN: (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4012307)

1) Starting this fall, the NFL is going to outlaw the "wedge" on kickoffs
2) Stop the bunching of players on onside kicks
3) Protect blockers from a helmet-to-helmet hit from the blindside
4) Save receivers from forearm or shoulder hits to the head when they appear to be defenseless

Sorry for all the edits the original sources were not very clear, anyway looks like the Brady rule did not pass.

 

[ScottieC]

Re: NFL Owners Pass Four Player Safety Rules For 2009 Season

Source(s):
NFL owners pass four player safety rules for 2009 season
The National Football Post | Stats

So I only count three WR example hit Welker took, QB example Brady, and ST wedge. Does anyone know the fourth?

Wes will be glad to hear about those changes.

 

[ScottieC]

Re: NFL Owners Pass Four Player Safety Rules For 2009 Season

Source(s):
NFL owners pass four player safety rules for 2009 season
The National Football Post | Stats

Edit: These are the four rules thanks ScottieC for the link Per ESPN: (Four safety proposals passed at NFL owners meetings - ESPN)

Thanks, PatsChamp88.