LaMont Jordan is better than LoMo

[PaulNEPats]

Totally and completely idiotic. Typical of post-2004 patsfans.com. What a sad, pathetic turn this site has taken.

No... but your attitude is pretty sad and pathetic.

 

[D-cleater]

Agreed. Maroney is the most talented back on the team, and does a lot of things well. He's good in the passing game, and may evenually take over for Faulk on third down. He can block. He can make people miss in the open field.

But being the most talented doesn't mean he is the most effective. Is Lamont Jordan "better" ? Tough to say. Based on what I've seen from Maroney his first two + seasons, I think Maroney is an average 1st & 2nd down back, meaning, he doesn't start for more than half the teams in the league. Look at the starting backs around the league before you disagree.

Lamont Jordan is probably an average back on first & second down as well. So I dont think either is 'better', but I think Jordan may be able to pick up positive yardage and sustain drives more consistently than Maroney. I expect to see the two switching roles by week 5 ... Jordan the lead back and Maroney the C.O.P.

 

[D-cleater]

No... but your attitude is pretty sad and pathetic.

Dude, reply to the troll if you must, but could you do the rest of us a favor and not quote her?

 

[Patriot Missile]

He was possesed today. Reminded me of Dillon in a big way. Get hit fall down but gain the extra 2 or 3 yards in the process. Happy as **** for the guy. Good job dude.

 

[ScottLK]

based on this game, i would agree...

HOWEVER, i would like u to keep in mind that LoMo ran at the beginnign of the game, agaistn a D which was not tired at all, where areas Jordan ran ONLY in the 4th, against a tired D-line...

Yeah and that's the point. Jordan is fresh and the 'D' is tired.

We should use Jordan in the second half, Maroney/Morris in the first.

 

[Deus Irae]

As I noted in yet another anti LoMo thread:

Jordan didn't make his first run until there was only 4:49 left in the 3rd quarter, according to the CBSSports.com play-by-play. By that time, Jenkins was already gassed. Early on in the game, both Maroney and Morris dealt with that fresh R-A-T-S D-Line. Not surprisingly, their numbers don't look as impressive as Jordan's.

 

[pheenix11]

Maroney looked good last year in the playoffs, I don't know what the issue was today. The OL is very inconsistent as well in both run and pass blocking.

I think all 4 RB's are going to be used a lot this year and each game a different one will shine depending on the gameplan and the opposing team.

I'm just glad we have the 4 headed monster that we do.

 

[DaBruinz]

That is my opinion based on what I've seen of Jordan this year. If I were BB, I'd be giving Jordan the majority of the reps.


Kudos to Kevin Faulk for another awesome performance.

Hmm... Maroney gets reps against the FRESH defense. Jordan takes 3rd string reps against the tired worn out defense.

Jordan does better than Maroney. So, clearly Maroney isn't good.

HUH?

Go back and watch the game and tell me how great the run blocking was on the 8 plays Maroney was out there for. Hell, the last run Maroney made, Yates and his lineman were next to Maroney when Maroney got the hand off...

 

[DaBruinz]

The reason Maroney gets caught in the backfield is because he starts dancing in the backfield instead of attacking the line.

It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Koppen, Yates and Kaczur getting blown off the line. Its just ALL Maroney.

That is what you are saying. Go back and watch the game, would you? Because that isn't what was happening.

 

[DaBruinz]

Jordan is better than Maroney, but thats not saying all that much. Maroney is average at best.

Based on what? If you are going to make statements, how about backing them up with something concrete? Or can't you be bothered to do it.

All you Maroney haters were taken out behind the woodshed last year when Maroney opened up later in the season. Now, you come out and pretend like you know wtf you are talking about? How about you actually watch some of the line play before you open your traps.

Koppen, Yates and Kaczur were man-handled at the line and Most of Maroney's runs were to their side of the field. Hell, on Maroney's last run, Yates and the defender were next to Maroney when he was given the ball. How can you expect Maroney to do anything when the defender is in his face at that point?

You haters want to crap on Maroney, but you don't crap on the O-line when its clear they weren't doing their job consistently. Next, you'll be blaming Matt Cassel for taking 3 sacks in 4 plays.

 

[DaBruinz]

Dude, reply to the troll if you must, but could you do the rest of us a favor and not quote her?

Patsox23 is hardly a troll. And your backhanded insults show you to be in the same league as you claim Patsox23 is.

Do us a favor and don't post.

 

[Tyler.Durden]

Jordan can lower his shoulder and can work in contact. Maroney can jink and stutter step and weould carve up a tired defense, plus i think he has a little more speed.

Jordans pass catching in the begining of games would be an added diamention.

But it is great to have both on the 53 man squad.

 

[DaBruinz]

Jordan can lower his shoulder and can work in contact. Maroney can jink and stutter step and weould carve up a tired defense, plus i think he has a little more speed.

Jordans pass catching in the begining of games would be an added diamention.

But it is great to have both on the 53 man squad.

Maroney actually is a pretty good pass catcher, when he's used that way. In fact, as others have pointed out, Maroney is very effective on screens. I'd like to see the Pats got with 4 wide with Maroney in the backfield and run a screen to the weak side. I think Maroney would have a field day.

 

[mcgraw_wv]

Maroney hasn't been that effective as an every down back from quite some time, he was special last year, or the year before that... I don't think he's ever been as valuable as Dillion was... and Morris out shined him last year when he was in there...

And this year, Jordan looks to be the better back on the roster right now.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

Jordan isn't Better than LoMo, he's just different. Together they'll (hopefully) be that 2 headed monster we were supposed to see with Corey and LoMo but Corey was beat up at that time. LaMo and LoMo are great together I don't want to see one without the other down the stretch. We need both styles.

 

[O.Z.O.]

I watched Jordan play in college (he went to Maryland). The guy was the best back in the country, led the nation in rushing in consecutive years. His problem to this point is that he's played his whole career behind some pretty lousy lines.

I'd like to see him get more 1st half reps to wear the defense down some, then let Maroney do his dancing in the 2nd half after Jordan beats them up.

 

[tedylb]

Hey everyone, take a deep breath and chill. The Pats are blessed with five (counting Heath) backs who each bring different skills to the game. Jordan was a terrific pickup, but don't count out LM. He'll contribute a lot this year.

And the last time I checked the First Amendment, everyone has a right to post- even if they disagree with you.

 

[DaBruinz]

Maroney hasn't been that effective as an every down back from quite some time, he was special last year, or the year before that... I don't think he's ever been as valuable as Dillion was... and Morris out shined him last year when he was in there...

And this year, Jordan looks to be the better back on the roster right now.

Morris out-shined Maroney? Morris played in 5 games, 3 of which he had Faulk as his back-up.

Sorry, but I think you are greatly over-stating Morris' effectiveness last year.

 

[PatsFan2]

Agreed. Maroney is the most talented back on the team, and does a lot of things well. He's good in the passing game, and may evenually take over for Faulk on third down. He can block. He can make people miss in the open field.

But being the most talented doesn't mean he is the most effective. Is Lamont Jordan "better" ? Tough to say. Based on what I've seen from Maroney his first two + seasons, I think Maroney is an average 1st & 2nd down back, meaning, he doesn't start for more than half the teams in the league. Look at the starting backs around the league before you disagree.

Lamont Jordan is probably an average back on first & second down as well. So I dont think either is 'better', but I think Jordan may be able to pick up positive yardage and sustain drives more consistently than Maroney. I expect to see the two switching roles by week 5 ... Jordan the lead back and Maroney the C.O.P.

How can Maroney be the most talented RB on our Team and he's so ineffective on First and Second Downs? Lamont Jordan and some Speed - Pop and vision. Laurenence Maroney only have Speed.And also need stars to be aligned for him to get yards after contact. Don't be suprised if the Patriots draft a Power RB next year. I think they know they made a mistake with that Scat Back Maroney. Lomo is not a BB type RB, BB loves guys who can move the pile...don't be surprised if Maroney is watching from the bench more as the season progress.

 

[Nunchucks]

Maroney is a very confusing RB. He has loads of talent, any objective observer can tell you that. The guy has eye-popping speed and acceleration, he is very strong and a boatload of moves to make wannabe tacklers miss.

So, what is the problem? Why is he consistently out played by guys like Sammy Morris? Why does Lamont Jordan look like the better back?

I don't know, but I agree with the originator of this thread, Jordan does look better than Maroney, at least his production does. Jordan consistently is getting positive yards while Maroney seems to get caught in the backfield a lot.

Is this a difference in hitting holes? I don't know, but Maroney has been nothing but a disapointment, sure he has his flashes, but he isn't consistent enough.

Don't make excuses about the OL, Jordan and Morris are running behind the same OL and ae getting positive yards. Remember this is the nfl and a moments hesitation can be the difference between a tackle for a loss and a gain of 3 yards.

Maroney needs to focuson positive yards first and make the big play second.