Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by R_T26, Jan 13, 2011.
If they choose to take out welker he thinks his mini clone would be a bad matchup for the Jets.
The only thing about that idea that's scary is that Zolak had it.
As long as Edelperson's over the dropsies, I say we give it to him.
Did Zolak make this announcement via drunken tweet?
Taylor Price will be the secret weapon...
The way people talk about Edelman's drops are unfair. We don't throw to the guy all game then bring him in from the cold and expect him to just catch at critical times. At least work the guy into the game early, let him feel part of the game.
Getting a touch of the ball lets you have a feel for the game speed. If I were him, I would be very frustrated with how they have used me.
Not to be offensive here... but you wouldn't do well as a Patriot.
What's BB's 2nd favorite quote besides "It is what it is"? I'd say it's "do your job".
A WR's job is to catch passes when they are thrown to him period.
After a TE blocks all day and is then open in the end zone on his first pass target he needs to make the catch.
If Revis is covering a guy who is not open 30 out of 30 times, maybe he will be open on the 31st attempt and in that situation needs to make the catch.
No rhythm no flow. Do these things do these help? Of course. But as a professional you are expected to do your job regardless of the situation.
He has to be active first. But that would be SWEET!!!
May god forgive me but Welker hasn't exactly been Mr. reliable when it comes to the dropsies either recently.
If i'm banned for this comment its been nice knowing you.
Also. Would love to see Price active for this one. can we play 4 in the slot?
Why do we need a secret weapon when our non-secret weapons are already more than the Jets can handle?
What kind of random horrible analysis is this? First of all why would Welker even be taken out? What's the logic behind that? Second I guess Edelman could be put in as his replacement or we could just change our offensive scheme to focus more on the tight ends or Branch. Third is the daring statement of "COULD" be a secret weapon; that way your ass is covered either way.
Why not come up with lame predictions for everyone on the team? Darius Butler could be a secret weapon against the Jets if they take McCourty out of the game. Ron Brace could be a secret weapon against the Jets if they take Wilfork out of the game. Brian Hoyer could be a secret weapon against the Jets if they take Brady out of the game. Can I get paid to be an analyst now please?
I think he may be active he was seen practicing yesterday in the bubble...maybe just on practice squad we'll know later today.
I would not be surprised if Edelman makes one or two impact punt returns, but I think there are five better receiving options than him that are also potential mismatches for the Jets (Welker, Branch, Gronk, Hernandez, Woodhead).
Edelman's value is in his ability to fill in for Wes effectively, and in the meantime make contributions on special teams.
I love Edleman matched up against a LB, safety, or CB#3 or 4
This is what happens when you get the bye week and Zolak runs out of stuff to say. Secret weapon?!? The Patriots don't need no stinkin' secret weapon!
I could say the same thing (assuming Welker and Branch are covered by CB #1 and #2) about Gronk, Hernandez and Woodhead. And while I think Edelman is a better pure receiver than Woodhead, Woodhead gives the element of the run game at the same time.
use him as a punt returner.
If you want him as a secret weapon, do some stupid kick return reverse with Tate & Edelman that probably won't work.
I don't think the pats need to outthink themselves with this game.
keep is simple and kick their ass.
I think by "take him out" he meant that the Jets take him out by paying a lot of attention to him. In which case, putting Edelman in the game at the same time may create problems.
I'm sure Welker is over the dropsies. All those drops in his last game are going to have him totally focused. He may have had 1 or 2 drops max in this game, but the way the Jests have been talking, he will be even more focused and there won't be ANY drops, just lots of YAC.
Maybe Zolak has been hit in the head just a few times too many.
I like Edelperson but who is not on the field when he is on the field? A short field over the middle slant oriented offense where run deep Tate sits? Then we'd have 2 TEs, Welker, Edelman, and maybe even Woodhead all colliding with each other over the middle and sidelines in a short field.
Indeed. Not sure why taking out Welker at ANY point would be a good idea.
Well a lot of people thought taking Randy out for a whole year wouldn't be a good idea either, but that seemed to of worked out. Welker is more of a product of Brady's Brilliance. Insert Edelman and the results could be the just as good, if not better. Edelman has more big play ability after the catch, Welker is probably with out a doubt, better in terms of being on the same page as Brady, with blitz adjustments, but why not put Edelman in for some WR screens at the least.
Also Welker's hands haven't been great latley. Better then Edelman in that department, but I'm not buying that Wes is that much better then Edelman.
I think the point of the OP was what to do if the Jets "take him out" by focusing on him (man coverage by Revis).
Branch, Tate, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Woodhead (any combination of the aforementioned four with Welker should suffice).
he will be a big part on punt re-turns and i could see him play a few snaps at wildcat ( only if the jets find a pass rush ) that would slow them down
I was honestly thinking the xfactor in the post-season for the Pats could be either Brandon Tate or Taylor Price.
Well, here's one example of why Edelman should be on the field at least a bit more than he is:
Three times they used an Edelround (i.e., Edelman on the end-around). The results?
* A fake that turned into a dumpoff in the flat that Edelman took 40 yards
* A fake that turned into a 42-yard TD, Hoyer to Tate
* A real end-around that gained 13 yards
Not saying it'll be as successful here, but I don't think getting Edelman more involved would turn out disastrously, either.
Feeling pain from a Jumbo beatdown,
their vision blurs with the contrarian
Mini Zoom group.
Edelman/Welker/Woodhead, mini stacked weak side.
Motion confusion chaos,
mixed with no huddle 3 step, quick snap.
jets respond with Cover who? D.
(modified cover 2)
Zoltan and Zolak in the same room
could enable travel to parallel universes.
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