Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Joey007, Feb 21, 2013.
Hell YES. Something about this guy, I dont know what, but if he hits FA I want him.
So we need DJ Swearinger? yup, i agree
Absolutely he will be looking for one but Rodney is not walking through that door hopefully we can find someone closer. Just saying it is not a requirement to getting to a SB see 2011. Brady and this O is going to be what carries you and realistically just getting better at coverage back there would be alot if one of those guys can lay the lumber too all the better.
This defense needs to:
1. Re sign talib or a corner as good or better than him for a fair price
2. Sign desmond bryant or henry melton to improve the interior pass rush(if we can even afford him, this would definetely cost us volmer, welker, and anyone else)
3. Draft the honey badger in round 4 or 5 if available to play slot cb
4. Try to sign a fair priced ss like adrian wilson if he gets released, or traded(unless we can draft a guy like elam in the 2nd round).
5. I think the pats will have no money left to spend for a pass rushing specialist, so maybe we will have to try to draft one late, or hope chandler jones can get much better and the inside pressure gets better.
The front 4 will have a nice balance of run stop and pass rush, the linebackers are all great at the run and some can even blitz, but the coverage must improve, and the secondary will be much improved with Cb1: talib Cb2: dennard Slot: Honey badger Backup cb: downling
This D needs a #1 CB...weather it be talib or someone else in FA. NOT through the draft
They need dennard to escape jail time
If dennard has to miss a few games, the team can survive with dowling(and if he gets hurt) then go back to mccourty at cb and put in another safety
Couldn't agree with Joey more!
plan on dowling being hurt all year
Why am I not surprised??
I think there are two positions the Pats should address via free agency - pass rush and safety. Vet safety FA class is deep there should be someone good. And the Pats need someone with experience and explosion to go along with Chandler Jones. As opposed to previous years, this defense actually needs an injection of experience, it doesn't need to get younger.
Now CB, WR, OL you draft those because they are generally too expensive as free agents - ie 10m per for the good ones.
See i think it's the complete opposite with CBs and WRs. Drafting WRs. Pats just don't do and if they do..they usually fail at it. CBs the same. get them through FA
Strong Safety can be fixed very easily, either through Fa or the draft. The pats can sign a guy like reed (who is a bit overrated now) or try to trade for adrian wilson. The pats can also try to see what they have in tavon wilson or draft elam or dj swearinger(projected round 3-4). Here is a hit by swearinger: South Carolina's DJ Swearinger Huge Hit on Andre Ellington - Must See Moment - YouTube
If the pats dont spend on fa for a SS and wr(draft tavon or someone else) then they should definitely spend for a guy like henry melton or desmond bryant and talib.
Obviously it'd be hard to disagree with you on the poorer drafting at certain positions, but I also think that they shouldn't give up either.
It wasn't too long ago that we were just talking about how they couldn't draft TE's to save themselves, and boom--2 of the top up and coming TE's in the game are drafted in the same year. Had they given up, we'd never have Gronkowski or Hernandez.
The CB/S route may have gotten a little better lately too (besides the fact that they drafted Asante Samuel) with picks of McCourty, Dennard, and T.Wilson.
If they don't draft those positions not only will we never know if they'd have panned out or not, but the problem will always exist in the future too. It's simply way too expensive to take those kinds of high-end players in free agency, not to mention that Belichick simply seems to refuse to do it almost all of the time. The draft is basically the only way to develop young, cheap talent for the current and the future.
It's also important to note that the WR class this year is deeper than any year they've selected a WR within the first three rounds.
What this defense needs is some Richard Seymour baby! Hes 33 years old, probably isn't going to demand huge bucks on the open market at this point in his career... maybe he would be up for coming to the Patriots for 1-2 years for a reasonable amount of money to try and help hoist another Lombardi! Hes not the player he was when we traded him, but he could certainly fill in and contribute along the defensive line next to Wilfork...
Was Richard Seymour era a success? - AFC West Blog - ESPN
Unless he's changed his tune, don't count on it.
Dont count it out, its been 3 years, maybe after spending time in the nightmare organization known as Oakland, maybe hes changed his terms.
As someone who watches a lot of Cardinals games, I can assure you he's not. Yes he'd provide leadership and hard hitting, but he used to be great in coverage for a strong safety and the last 2-3 years his coverage has been horrible. They can't afford to have that big of a liability in coverage, although I agree they need a hard hitting safety.
Right now corner is a much bigger concern. Their top 3 corners either are unrestricted free agents or are waiting to get sentenced. As good as the group of safeties in this draft is, it would make more sense to use another early pick on a corner.
Seymour believes that the Patriots treated him disrespectfully. Further, there are a number of other organizations out there that will most definitely offer him more for his services than the Patriots would. He's not coming back.
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