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You know, if they are not going to spend the money to bring in a decent WR in free agency, then d%#*!@t just pay Welker and draft a WR. Get some scouting help from the Steelers, and Giants too. Because the Pats track record of drafting WRs is pathetic. Anthony Gonzalez? Really? Come on BB. :nooo:
 
Gonzalez might get injured walking off the plane.
 
This reminds me of the public's reaction a couple years ago when the Pats re-signed David Patten, or the hand-wringing a year ago over the lack of depth on the offensive line after the Pats cut Mark LeVoir. Even if the Pats are to sign Gonzalez in the next 24 hours, let's not act as if this would be the only signing the team will make or that he will have no competition for a roster spot.
 
This reminds me of the public's reaction a couple years ago when the Pats re-signed David Patten, or the hand-wringing a year ago over the lack of depth on the offensive line after the Pats cut Mark LeVoir. Even if the Pats are to sign Gonzalez in the next 24 hours, let's not act as if this would be the only signing the team will make or that he will have no competition for a roster spot.


We're like Pavlov's dog
when it comes to Bill obtaining WR's.

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gonzalez has caught 5 passes in 3 years


I'd rather get T.O.
 
This reminds me of the public's reaction a couple years ago when the Pats re-signed David Patten, or the hand-wringing a year ago over the lack of depth on the offensive line after the Pats cut Mark LeVoir. Even if the Pats are to sign Gonzalez in the next 24 hours, let's not act as if this would be the only signing the team will make or that he will have no competition for a roster spot.

Exactly. We have to bring in a couple of WRs and if the price is right, there's no reason not to bring in someone like Gonzalez. Obviously he's missed lots of time over the last few years, but if he can stay healthy, he may be very productive. Very low risk involved here.
 
BB treat Free agency kinda like he does the draft nowadays, signing a bunch of low risk, high reward players for cheap is a good idea, Belichick will be able to see what these players has left in camp, their contracts will be altered so that if they are cut, it wont make a big difference.

I think the days of BB signing a big time free agent are gone, even Lloyd who said he would come at a discount wont get paid to come here.

The Patriots just barely lost the Superbowl, so the talent on their team is pretty good, they have 4 draft picks in the first two rounds again and a bunch of cap room for signings like this, who are we to start second guessing Belichick now?
 
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BB treat Free agency kinda like he does the draft nowadays, signing a bunch of low risk, high reward players for cheap is a good idea, Belichick will be able to see what these players has left in camp, their contracts will be altered so that if they are cut, it wont make a big difference.

I think the days of BB signing a big time free agent are gone, even Lloyd who said he would come at a discount wont get paid to come here.

The Patriots just barely lost the Superbowl, so the talent on their team is pretty good, they have 4 draft picks in the first two rounds again and a bunch of cap room for signings like this, who are we to start second guessing Belichick now?

there are more low-risk low reward players than you can count on both hands and both feet

they have tracy white back in the fold .... WOOT!
 
Or he could be made of glass. And not the good kind like a beer bottle that doesn't necessarily break when you hit somebody over the head with it.

He's more like movie stunt glass designed to shatter at the slightest touch.

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His First Two years in the League was good...he might need a change of scenery granted he checks out well medically. Gonzalezis is still young alot of thread still on those tires.

Anthony Gonzalez - Indianapolis Colts - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

He could be like Laurent Robinson on the Cowboys...injuries took a toll early on went somewhere else and took off.

Laurent Robinson, WR for the Dallas Cowboys at NFL.com

If only this team could be that lucky.
 
BB treat Free agency kinda like he does the draft nowadays, signing a bunch of low risk, high reward players for cheap is a good idea, Belichick will be able to see what these players has left in camp, their contracts will be altered so that if they are cut, it wont make a big difference.

I think the days of BB signing a big time free agent are gone, even Lloyd who said he would come at a discount wont get paid to come here.

The Patriots just barely lost the Superbowl, so the talent on their team is pretty good, they have 4 draft picks in the first two rounds again and a bunch of cap room for signings like this, who are we to start second guessing Belichick now?

Oghhh! Please understand about Draft Choices. There is a 17% chance that a Draft Choice (rounds 1-7) will make an impact on an NFL Team. Making an impact means long term quality starter, valued or specialized back up, or those that ascend and make Pro Bowl or All Pro Status within a three year window of opportunity from year of Draft. Any Team that excels in a specific Draft class over that 17% success rate, is said to have had an exemplary Draft that said year. This does not include part time players or roster fills, nor players no longer with their original Team due to retirement , Cuts or FA.

The more higher round picks, the higher the success possibility of full time starter, or higher tier NFL player.

Example:Good class- 2010 Pats Draft Class over 17% (still pending after this year but could be over 41%. See below).

Last five years before that.

2005=13%
2006=10%
2007=9%
2008=25%
2009=16%

In those five years the Pats have had an average success rate of 14.6%.

After this year you can figure in 2010 Class.

We have 6 Choices this year. If we do what our average year is for success, it means if we get two players who work out very well as termed "success" in this years Draft, we are "doing our job".

Please consider your expectations. If BB plays his trade down B.S. game, the percentages shrink that he will find his......"value" as he and Crazy Eye like to throw out, in a redundant choice of over used verbiage. The results for all this down trading has been documented as a mixed bag at best. If he stays where he is we have a better chance to grab some play makers.

As far as talent goes, this was one of the least talented Teams to be in a Super Bowl since perhaps the Seahawks. The best starting DB was Chung and he had an injury filled mediocre year. The rest were off the street or FAs nobody would demand. Mayo was O.K., not great, Ninc played extremely well and Anderson came on. Spikes was hurt some as well but got better late. You had one star, Wilfork. You have two great TEs, a superb slot WR and a great QB. Mediocre RBs, a Mediocre O Line with a retread RG who played the best of all of them, a fading LT who was very decent and a over-rated RG with a big contract. Now some of that "talent" might play better in 2012, but that is a fair assessment of the actual talent shown in 2011 and specifically in the playoffs. Injuries were a great part to be fair, but please, this is not the 2007 or 2004 Pats as far as talent.

If you use the "Draft to build" myth, we will get two players within three years from this class who will come in and be difference makers. This happens roughly 50% of the time. If your lucky you get one impact dude. That is why 2010 is a very special class. You might have three or four difference makers but it is safe to say Gronk for sure and Hernandez. McCourty and Spikes are still in the mix and if they are Pats difference makers, then the 2101 Pats Draft class can go in history and was as good as perhaps considered the best ever, the 1974 Steelers Draft with Swann, Stallworth, Lambert and Webster etc. This year is the litmus test for McCourty and Spikes as to whether this was one of the best Draft classes ever. As you see, the third year.

How many years you think Mr. Brady plays? Can we target three years as reasonable or do we seek more "talent" for him now?

I respect your opinion, but I think the Draft Myth is a long process and we need help for 2013, not 2015.
DW Toys
 
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The Patriots came within a Welker drop of a 4th title with a terrible defense last year, lets not forget that.

Everyone wants to go out and get a big time WR even though we still have to worry about resigning welker longterm and a couple of years from now we have to sign Gronk and Hernandez which will cost huge money and may want new deals after this next year.

As patriots fans we dont even know if they will run a 4-3 or a 3-4 as their primary defense next year and i think we can agree that defense on this team is the most important priority.

This years draft class has some pretty good WRs and Linemen, as well as the usual crop of defensive backs, The Patriots should be able to find players they like with all the picks they have.

The Patriots have been most successful recently when making moves just like this, bringing in guys they like at bargain prices; Bodden, Crumpler, Waters, Carter and Anderson were all players brought in on cheap deals who turned into huge contributors for this team. people so easily forget that.

The Patriots have all that cap room because they haven't signed anyone huge like Adalius Thomas in years, i fully expect them to use that money to resign their own guys and restructure existing contracts to make it easier to keep all of the guys they could potentially lose when their rookie contracts run out, they have already extended Mayo for instance, i expect Chung and Vollmer to be extended at some point soon.
 
Out of Branch, Ochocinco, Edelman, Slater, Underwood, potentially Gonzalez and a WR from the draft, you'd think SOMEONE should be able to line up opposite Welker....right?
 
I'd like the Pats to sign Gonzalez and see how he does in camp PROVIDED THAT they do not rely on him AT ALL. As in, they still sign another free agent WR and draft somebody.
 
i expect Chung and Vollmer to be extended at some point soon.

Why rush to extend these guys? Vollmer hardly played at all last year and Chung wasn't much better (healthier). Why not wait and see if either one of them can make it through a full NFL season again before penciling in cap room for them down the road?
 
Out of Branch, Ochocinco, Edelman, Slater, Underwood, potentially Gonzalez and a WR from the draft, you'd think SOMEONE should be able to line up opposite Welker....right?
Branch - has not re-signed
Ochocinco - does not know the playbook
Edelman - slot receiver
Slater - special teams ace
Underwood - training camp fodder
Gonzalez - injury prone
 
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