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  1. tombonneau

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    I'm not a huge draftnik (but love to speculate nonetheless). But with two WRs signed and a LB (plus BB's apparent obstinance to never draft a LB early) I'm thinking the Pats go two DBs in the first.

    So to you draft folks out there who know more than I, who would be the best fit for the Pats?

    I know there is a Fresno state kid out there who sounds like he's a physical BB type guy.

    Who else?
     
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    i would love it if we got 2 dbs in the first.

    that would make my day
     
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    Reggie Nelson from FLA. But his 40 times and everything else blew away the scouts so I don't know if he'll be there when we draft anymore. But, if he is, we will draft him. Florida is the New England of college football.
     
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    I would like a DB and a LB, of course if value is there, in first round.
     
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    DB's

    Of course Laron Landry but he will go too high.

    Chris Houston, Reggie Nelson, Michael Griffin...

    My dream is

    Willis/Poz at 24

    Griffin at 28...
     
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    Depending on who drops if would not surprise me if BB took a DL and TE in the first.
     
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    idk bout 2 DBs ..what changes the fact that Bruschi is old and we dont have a very good ILB? Nothing. Thomas isnt young..Seau isnt back. We need youth for future. We still need an ILB
     
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    Here are Yahoo's top 5 CBs. (Btw, what the f is "plays too tall" mean? is that new draft buzz talk?)

    Sounds like Fresno's McCaully, if he can rediscover his aggressiveness, might be the guy.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...slug=jm-cornerbacks030807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
     
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    The Fresno State kid you're talking about is Marcus McCauley 6" 203, 4.39.
    BUT based on our DB draft history, BB only drafts DBs that have been productive in college. Look at guys like Scott, Reid, Samuels, Hobbs. All guys that were very productive in college. McCauley was benched his senior year which I would not equate with production. Simply put, productive player don't get benched.

    With that being said, the Pats worked our Reggie Nelson from Florida.
    But I'm sure Landry is the #1 safety on their board so if he somehow slipped to 18-20 I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade up.

    As far as CB, I think Eric Weddle is a name you will hear a lot of. Productive player, smart, leader, positional flexibility. Played, S, CB, and even some WR. Always around the ball. Great overall football player.

    Daymeion Hughes:
    A very good natural athlete...Has pretty good size...Is very instinctive...Playmaker with excellent ball skills...His hips are smooth and fluid...Very productive and came away with a lot of interceptions during his career...Is physical and will support the run...Experienced and a hard worker with good intangibles...A special teams ace. (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/daymeionhughes.html)

    Josh Wilson:
    Has phenomenal speed...A tremendous natural athlete with excellent quickness, agility and leaping ability...Tough and physical guy who plays a lot bigger than he is and will help against the run...Smart with good instincts...Hips are fluid and he can turn and run with anyone...Is also a terrific return man...Has good bloodlines.
    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html

    When we draft CBs we look for three main abilities: tackling, ball skills, smarts. These kids can do it all, and ran the first ran a 4.65 (like Asante did). With that said, he could be exposed on deep balls against fast WR like any corner without top notch speed.

    Just a few guys I'm looking at as potential fits.
     
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    I agree. Honestly..I don't care if we take two ILB's. I'd rather not, but I wouldn't mind it. But we definitely need at least one. I think Leon Hall will be available when we pick, so Will/Posluszny then Leon Hall.

    But if we did take two DB's...Leon Hall, Michael Griffin.
     
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    give me Davis Harris and a CB/S and im set
     
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    I would prefer a DB and Safety.
     
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    I'd be surprised if Leon Hall makes it past Pittsburgh. Also heard a rumor on Sirius NFL Radio that the Lions may be targeting Hall, if they trade down from #2. I'd jump all over him at 24...

    I highly doubt the Pats will be picking at 24 and 28. I foresee some trades...

    IMO, out of the cornerbacks I see guys like Leon Hall, Chris Houston, Darrelle Revis, Josh Wilson, and John Talley as Patriot type players...

    Out of the safeties, you have the big three in Landry, Nelson, and Griffin. You also have Eric Weddle and Josh Gaddis. I don't think the Pats have the ammo to move up to be in a position to draft Landry. I'm on the Nelson bandwagon at this point, and believe he's the guy they need to be targeting. Unfortunately, I can't see him being available at 24. Especially with Jacksonville and Dallas needing safeties. The Pats would likely need to trade 24 and 28 to move above 17 to have a realistic shot at Nelson. Which I would do, if they pick up a second rounder as part of a deal...
     
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    Pats will take an LB in round one unless they trade up for Laron Landry.
     
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    Don't know about drafting an ILB high. Most college teams don't play a 3-4 and MLBs are too small to play for the pats.

    Willis is 240 though and Harris is about that.

    I see them taking Revis in the first, Anthony Spencer in a trade down into the second. Sabby Piscatelli S in the 4th.

    I wanted them to draft Johnny Lee Higgins in the 3rd but now they have so many WRs there may not be room.
     
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    For MLB - Give me Patrick Willis.

    Of the CBs - I like Houston, Revis, or Ross.

    I don't have much opinion on Safeties but I hear Landry is probably a can't miss type of prospect.

    Also, as much as it pains me to say it - Don't rule out a tight end. :mad:
     
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    I agree, now with BB making WR a priority in free agency (which since it was an immediate need, that makes a helluva lot more sense than drafting a WR and waiting a year or two for them to develop) that Defense will be the focus of the draft

    A Safety and CB in the first round is my prediction... with a later round pick on a tweener LB

    I don't know who fits the mold - my only advice is let Rodney have some input into drafting a Safety
     
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    Landry isnt a "cant miss prospect". Im pretty sure the only cant miss Safety was Sean Taylor but no 1 that dominant has come out yet. Landry isnt a monster or a real playmaker but he does every very well and hes a leader. He can hit, he can cover.

    He reminds me of Dawkins in many ways..
    -hes a leader
    -he hits hard
    -can play in box
    -he can cover
    -can play free or strong
    -hes fast
     
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    I'm pretty sure Reed was a can't miss prospect and was well worth the pick. Only problem with Sean Tayler is that he's a thug and has some off the field issues, otherwise he is a beast.

    Well if Landry can play on the level of a young Dawkins I'd take that any day. He's probably not dropping to 24 though. It will be interesting to see if the Pats move up aggressively to target a guy or if they stay put and let the players come to them.
     
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    If Nelson is gone I think we have to consider Merriweather even with his off field problems. Brandon Meriweather NFL DRAFT PROSPECT SCOUTING REPORT
    Ranked #29 on our Top 100 Prospects Board

    Position: FS
    School & Year/Status: Miami - Senior
    Height & Weight: 6'0 - 195 lbs.

    2007 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report
    Brandon Meriweather played in 49 games at Miami and was a starter in the secondary the past two seasons. He showed his versatility by playing both safety positions during that time and has even played cornerback due to numerous team injuries. He displays excellent tacking ability and is not afraid to move up and play the run. Meriweather is solid in coverage, whether man-to-man or zone. Although he has a compact frame, Meriweather can lay a hard hit on opposing receivers and will make them think twice before crossing the middle of the field. He is a tremendous athlete with outstanding hands and exceptional closing speed to the ball. His talent and potential are never in question, but his conduct both on and off the field may be a concern for his new team. Meriweather continues to improve and has all the ability and talent to become an impact player at the next level. His conduct aside, he clearly has an unbelievable upside to become a playmaker for many years to come in the NFL. He should be one of the top defensive backs selected in the draft, most likely going in the mid-to-late first round.
     

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