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    Here is a JETS employee on the Jets sidelines whose clearly isn't following the rules that were set by Goodell, yet no one is saying boo about it.

    The Guy has Jets Credentials, but not the Video Vest that all the others have and the camera isn't enclosed the way Goodell's memo states. And, since he's a Jets employee, he's not part of the local camera crew.

    I'd love it if this backfired in Mangini's face if the rule says no video taping equipment of any sort...
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    This is very true, why hasn't this been addressed by anyone of the NFL "powers that be"? Answer: because the Jets are not slated as one of the dominant teams that has been successful for years and they do not have a coach that people have been waiting to pile on. It's all political. But if the the rule is going to be enforced indiscriminately then the league needs to address the fact that this Jets guy is also in violation.
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    Maybe Bill has addressed it to the commish...I mean I can't imagine they haven't looked into it.
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    Evidence That Jets Cheated!!!! Quick, to the presses!
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    I sent a letter to the PATS front office yesterday with this same picture. Hopefully they know about this and we are in for a big surprise!
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    Guys, we have to make as much of this as possible, the Jesters, Womangini and the whole NY press have done as much as possible - lets turn this round.
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    LOL, and because he's a JETS employee he so fukcing stupid he doesn't even know where to point the camera.

    Imagine the locker room conversation:

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    Wilber: Duh, here coach Eric {hands over tape}

    Mangina: {views tape} Wilber, you friggen retard, How many times do I gotta tell you ------------ I said the PATRIOTS coaches.

    Wilber: Doh, I'm sorry coach Eric, i do it better next time.
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    I emailed Bill Simmons on this asking him for his opinion. I will be interested as to what it is...
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    If this can somehow hit the mainstream football media before tomorrow, it could have a great impact. You may come out of this an internet hero, DB.
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    Well.. if anything DOES happen, its not me who should get the credit. Its Ursa because he was the one who posted the picture originally.

    Though, If I did get some credit, I'd asked you all to hold the applause and just send MONEY. :D
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    How do we get it out...
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    In the original thread there is a link to coldhardfootballfacts.com, which also debunked the photo. They reported that a Patriots beatwriter had written in and he identified them as well-known NY media crew.

    R

    update: I just went there, and they have taken the picture down entirely.
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    I just emailed the hype to Florio -- see if he runs with it, truth or not.
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    Did you send this to Tomase or Reiss? I know they monitor this board, but the title of this thread may not grab their attention. An e-mail may do the trick.
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    Da Bruinz, have you tried contacting WEEI about this? I'm sure they'd be interested in it.
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    Hey I brought it up I think first check the sticky on the main page.

    You guys should jump on this, question is who is he.

    I have asked over at JI and a couple of posters work on the sidelines, and claim they have never seen him before.
    One guy claimed he works for NFL films, it was also brought up that this guy looks alot like Matt Scleri, or whatever his name is that was the alledged Pats Photographer.

    Whoever it is seems to be in violation of the rules.
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    Unless I am mistaken, any one shooting video on the sidelines is supposed to have a bright orange vest on... The guy in the picture was identified as a JETS EMPLOYEE, not a NY MEDIA EMPLOYEE.
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    If you look closely at the guy's left leg and at the bottom of the kicker's warmup net, this photo looks like it's been trough photoshop.
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    Can someone to change it to something that brings more people in. Like:

    DEBUNKED PHOTO: what else do it show?
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    Probably because photos don't usually come with big circles around where you're supposed to look.
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    Yes send it to them. It's gotta be somebody with some seniority on the board though I would think so it carries more weight and is taken seriously. DaBruinz, Pats1, Box, PatsNUTme or somebody.

    Note: If I have not mentioned you as a prominent name on this board and you feel slighted I apologize and was just thinking of the guys with seniority.
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    How do we come to the conclusion that it is a Jets employee.

    He probably is, but for this to gain legs you guys need to find out his name and who he works for.
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    Re: URSA's PICTURE... What it showed

    Here's what I wrote:


    Hey there,

    Long time reader, first time writer.

    I'm a Pats fan from MA and here's the local twist on the story. One of the members at patsfans.com posted an image from the game, supposedly identifying the Pats cameraman. The photo is featured prominently here: http://touchdown.org/

    However, since its been debunked that the cameraman was actually on the Pats sideline then who is this guy? Is it a Jets employee doing taping?

    Despite the fact they're not "stealing signals" with the camera, are the Jets violating EXACTLY the same regulation that the Pats are guilty of?

    Per a NFL article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802456c2&template=with-video&confirm=true

    1. Page 105 of the Game Operations manual says: "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." It later says: "All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

    2. And, a memo from Ray Anderson, NFL head of football operations, to head coaches and GMs on Sept. 6, 2006 said: "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."
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    As to why the guy is not pointing the Camera on the Pats coaches when the screen was captured.

    Since Brady is clearly on the field, he obviously has a few moments to kill before being needing to turn the camera cross field and tape the Patriots defensive signals.
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    FYI we know the league already has the pic.

    What we don't know is who the guy is or who he works for.

    I am sure the league is well aware of who he is and who he works for.
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    It came out on JetsInsider that the guy is a Jets Employee and he supposedly has received death threats.....

    I've sent it to Bill Simmons and Mike Reiss for their input. I am not going to assume any more than I have...If its true, and he is a Jets employee, then Jets are in violation of the rules as well as the Pats. As I said, it was my understanding that the people with the cameras have to have the orange vest on and such.
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    Just sent this to the sports editor of MSNBC
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    I missed that thread!

    JI is an excellent source. :)
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    The thing that is good is that the time is clear in the picture so it would be easy to cue up a tape of the game to make sure this was not photoshopped. Patsfans to the rescue! Let's see if anything actually happens....
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    Re: SMOKING GUN : URSA's PICTURE... What it else showed

    I want to say that i think you are all doing a great job with this.

    More needs to be done. We need to send this pic out to anybody and everybody that will take it.

    But how can we be so sure that it isn't photoshopped?
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