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Schefter: Asante got conditional guarantee he won't be franchised

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    According to Adam Schefter, Asante got a guarantee he won't be franchised if the Pats win a certain number of games or he plays a certain number of plays (didn't say how much). This is similar to the deal Lance Briggs got.

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    I'd have told him to sit his ass out until week 10.
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    I thought they conceded.....So what happens if the Patriots are close to the game's won thresthold that allows the Pats to tag him again.....and in that game Asante get's a sure pick 6....does he drop it?.... I think he screwed up in this part of the report "The Patriots also vowed that if they win a certain number of regular-season games –- logically thought to be in the double digits –- then Samuel also will not be a free agent.
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    Either way, by and large, we can expect him to walk after this year unless he strikes a long-term deal here, which I wouldn't expect.
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    Remember, the same guy said that Chad Jackson could be cut
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    He said COULD, not WOULD :)
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    I have to assume that "not" should be erased, otherwise the thing makes no sense.

    In any case, IF this is true does it mean an end to all the posts saying "he was just being a jerk by holding out, he had nothing to gain from it?"
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    Simple.

    Samuel if we start winning your ass ain't going nowhere.
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    That was most certainly a typo after watching the Adam report it on the NFL Network's Around the League....the video appears on the right side of the link....Its a combination of the Patriots winning a certain amount of games and playing time and hes gone.
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    Asante wins, Pats lose.
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    LOL i was being sarcastic. Sorry it didnt come out to well.
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    But what happens if we start winning and he plays the percentage of plays? You have two contradictions in that scenario based on that report.
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    haha my bad
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    If this is true, I am disappointed to here it. Personally, I don't think they will franchise Samuel again next year because of the expense, but I would have liked for them to stick to their guns on principle. As history has shown us, you cave to one guy and the next guy is going to want/expect/demand the same thing.
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    I got it. :cool:

    If the Patriots made any concession beyond the standard franchise tag, I'll be disappointed. Happy that Asante is back, but the front office shouldn't have budged an inch (if they did).
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    True - but its not like this sort of precedent wasn't already set by other teams around the league.

    In any event, it will be be worth it if we win the super bowl.
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    If the Pats were going to concede this to Asante, why the hell couldn't

    they do this a month ago and get him to training camp in time?
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    If you dont believe they will anyway then whats the difference that they made him happy after he signed.
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    Probably because they weren't so confident with the secondary personnel that they already had.
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    PATHETIC. CAVE. DISGUSTING. I don't believe it.
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    Who said they caved? From everything ive read its seemed like he asked not to be Franchised again after he signed the tender.
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    And the defense would have suffered. Thank God BB is in charge.
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    I have a hard time believing this. The secondary is better than it's been in some years when we won the Super Bowl, and Asante had NO GROUND here, no leverage whatsoever. This is HORSECRAP.
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    So does Tomase's article about Asante getting "beat deep" get any heat?
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    Hey it is a copy cat league, not surprised at all that he gets a similar deal to Briggs.
    I wouldn't consider it caving in, if he plays well the Pats will work out a long term deal in the offseason, if not they can let him go.
    Seems fair all around, considering what he could of made on the FA market.
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    Were is Schefter getting the info from the Patriots or the agent.
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    Well Belichick was in charge last year and they could have made the same deal with Branch. If it's me I let him sit until Week 10, Franchise and trade him; probably getting a #1 pick. We still have him for the last 1/3 of the regular season, the playoffs and then can get something for him and control where he goes.

    How about if he goes to the Jets next year for nothing ? Are the 10 games worth losing that control ?
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    I guess one good thing is that the win total stipulation is likely in double digits...so let's say its 12 wins....maybe they win 11, win the east, asante can be tagged.....Me, I'd much rather go 16-0
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    What are you talking about? We can't franchise him and trade him for a #1. This is an okay outcome for you, given the FACT that the Patriots had all kinds of leverage here? That Asante was, what, gonna BACK OUT and fly home and not collect nearly half a mill every week for ten weeks?

    Good CHRIST, if they did this I'll be shocked. A PUTRID, terrible move mainly because it's COMPLETELY unnecessary.
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    The secondary the last 2 years we won the Superbowl was pretty

    good until the injuries began to occur. This year's secondary includes

    a washed up Tory James and an oft injured Randall Gay. Even if Gay

    has a good, healthy year, he has New York Jet tattooed on his

    forehead for next year.

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