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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.after branch got more than what the pats offered , he felt duped that the pats had convinced him that the offer they had was fair...-as per felger..BelichickFan said:Not quite sure what you're saying. You're saying (from Felger) that Brady thought the offer to Branch was fair or the offer from Branch was ? If it were the latter, why would Brady feel duped ?
SVN said:after branch got more than what the pats offered , he felt duped that the pats had convinced him that the offer they had was fair...-as per felger..
SVN said:as per felger's latest nonsense..he spoke to brady before the whole branch grieveance mess went down...says tom felt, the team had a fair offer for branch and branch should manage his agent and now he feels he was duped by the team about the fair market value...
they cant just let go...
patsacolachick said:Okay I know I'll get killed here, but maybe just maybe the FO did ask Tom to lean on Deion to get rid of his agent, and Tom did and then the agent goes and gets him this "great" contract??? Maybe that is what is causing the bad feelings for Brady (if, in fact, there are bad feelings, which is sure looks like there is)?
F.B.N. said:That's a bunch of crap. the Patriots offered about the same money as Seattle except for the $$$ this year.
I don't blame Belichick for not ripping up the contract...if he did it for Branch then he'll have to do it for all our other good players.
F.B.N. said:I'm with him all the way on this one. That extra money means 2-3 good players left for the team to carry...which $3-$4 million a year players would you like to see dropped from this years team???
F.B.N. said:All it takes is for 3-4 players a year, working on their rookie contracts, earning around $1 million for the year to want their deal voided for the last year. So, all those players get an extra $3 million or so by ripping up their contract which means we operate $8 to say $12 million higher in the cap every year...that's just plain bad business for Belichick to do that.
I'm with him all the way on this one. That extra money means 2-3 good players left for the team to carry...which $3-$4 million a year players would you like to see dropped from this years team???
SVN said:after branch got more than what the pats offered , he felt duped that the pats had convinced him that the offer they had was fair...-as per felger..
patsacolachick said:Okay I know I'll get killed here, but maybe just maybe the FO did ask Tom to lean on Deion to get rid of his agent, and Tom did and then the agent goes and gets him this "great" contract??? Maybe that is what is causing the bad feelings for Brady (if, in fact, there are bad feelings, which is sure looks like there is)?
Miguel said:Are you saying that the Patriots should never extend players that are in their rookie contracts??
I think the Patriots consider that irrelevant. However much they may be under the cap after, if they (in their mind) overpay Branch there's still less money to spread around.Miguel said:FWIW - The Pats are under the cap by $11 million. If Branch got the same deal from the Pats that he got from the Seahawks, the Pats would be under the cap by just over $8 million.
Miguel said:By ripping up the contract, what exactly do you mean??
Miguel said:Are you saying that the Patriots should never extend players that are in their rookie contracts??
BelichickFan said:I think the Patriots consider that irrelevant. However much they may be under the cap after, if they (in their mind) overpay Branch there's still less money to spread around.
Miguel said:Are you saying that the Patriots should never extend players that are in their rookie contracts??
F.B.N. said:That's right...and something else not mentioned was that Seymour got an extra $1 million to come back until his deal was renewed. i would think under normal circumstances that the same should have been done with Branch. IMO there had to be some harsh words exchanged because it never got that far...and like i said....Branch knew he wasn't coming back before camp started. This goes back to when Vinateiri left...that's where this Branch negotiating thing all went bad.