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Wilfork started slow. Seymour started slow too.
Seymour did not start slow. He was a terror even in the pre-season....it was just that the media did not notice him until later. Vince did start slow; good size and bulk but out of position and walled off on many plays. Same for Brown, but I am pretty sure he will come around.
I have no concerns with Brown eventually being a star for us.
That being said, Brown isn't ready now. If that were not so, it would be difficult to understand what Belichick has allocated 12 positions to healthy defensive linemen. 9 healthy defensive linemen is usually plenty, plus one on the PUP list.
Seymour did not start slow. He was a terror even in the pre-season....it was just that the media did not notice him until later. Vince did start slow; good size and bulk but out of position and walled off on many plays. Same for Brown, but I am pretty sure he will come around.
I have no concerns with Brown eventually being a star for us.
That being said, Brown isn't ready now. If that were not so, it would be difficult to understand what Belichick has allocated 12 positions to healthy defensive linemen. 9 healthy defensive linemen is usually plenty, plus one on the PUP list.
Unless the other players at the position also aren't ready. Joe Vellano played a ton in 2013 and he was a steaming pile of crap. He wasn't ready. Frankly, he'll never be ready.Isn't ready is a terrible term to describe a player who is in the rotation...if he wasn't ready he wouldn't be playing PERIOD!
Unless the other players at the position also aren't ready. Joe Vellano played a ton in 2013 and he was a steaming pile of crap. He wasn't ready. Frankly, he'll never be ready.
Dobson and KT sure as hell weren't ready in 2013 either.
KT is barely able to stay employed in the league. He had no business being a starting WR in the NFL, especially as a rookie. He clearly has his fans around here, but we'll just have to disagree on him.When VW went down, Vellano played out of necessity. They were hoping he would become the next Mike Wright or Jarvis Green. Didn't happen obviously.
I disagree. They both produced pretty well as rookies. If they weren't ready they wouldn't have played.
I am not a KT fanboy.KT is barely able to stay employed in the league. He had no business being a starting WR in the NFL, especially as a rookie. He clearly has his fans around here, but we'll just have to disagree on him.
Every player has "produced" something at some point. That's an incredibly generic term. Vellano made some tackles, Devey made some blocks, Aiken made some accurate snaps, KT caught some balls. They all "produced". They were ready to play poorly, so yes, they were ready.I am not a KT fanboy.
Your assertion was that neither KT or Dobson were ready in 2013.
The fact is that they both produced which by default means that they were ready for the role the team had for them in mind.
Saying that they aren't NFL players or not good enough to be on the team is a different discussion.
profootballfocus has brown as one of the worst rookies for whatever that's worth.
I've been conditioned to try and find the angle with any FredfromDartmouth thread...
Every player has "produced" something at some point. That's an incredibly generic term. Vellano made some tackles, Devey made some blocks, Aiken made some accurate snaps, KT caught some balls. They all "produced". They were ready to play poorly, so yes, they were ready.