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  1. DaedalusX

    DaedalusX On the Game Day Roster

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    Something else to consider is that this was the Jets only opening to make a SB run and for one reason more than just all of their FA re-signings and the emotional letdown of this loss after all their bluster (and the difficulty generating that bluster they will face next year):

    They gave the Pats a rival to destroy.

    See, before this year, the Jets were just a team we despise and expect to beat twice a year. If we lose one, it sucks. But we expect to win 2/3 times. It's sort of like back with Indy pre-2006. We never built teams to target them or to beat them specifically. So when we lost to Indy in the AFCCG, what happens?

    Belichick builds a leviathan designed to score enough points that no one -- and specifically Indy -- could never hope to lead a late-game rally like that to beat us again.

    The Jets gave the Patriots a huge target to aim for this off-season, both specifically in a rival and as a defensive scheme to break. I expect to see major moves this off-season meant to put the Jets back into their hole for a long time.

    And I think next year, we're going all the way. :rocker:
     
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    The Jets have 32 players under contract due a total of almost $99M in salary next season.
    The Patriots have 46 under contract for $65.5M.

    I don't know exactly how this translates to cap hit, but the Jets are relatively screwed when it comes to resigning guys.
     
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    yeah boy jets are screwed.....
     
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    Dufflebagz 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    David Harris, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Antonio Cromartie.....they will be able to keep two at best.

    Brad Smith, Shaun Ellis, Brodney Pool, Drew Coleman, Tony Richardson are some other FA's who's returns are questionable.
     
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    I love this thread
     
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    FREE AGENTS
    Shaun Ellis
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    The pats should make offers to all of them just drive the price up lol

    kidding aside, bill should make a big offer to holmes and see what happens
     
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    Over at GangGreen they are talking like it will be no problem to keep Santurdio and Edwards.

    "Tanny is a magician with the cap".

    Cro has 8 or 9 mouths to feed. He's out the door to the highest bidder.

    One of Edwards and Holmes is gone.

    LT is done.

    Jenkins is done.

    Pryce is done.

    Ellis is likely gone.

    Brad smith is gone.

    Coleman is unlikely to re-sign.

    Harris may command some pretty big money. He could be gone, too.

    The rub for "Tanny" is they just emptied the vault for Revis and Mangold last summer. Hard to imagine them being able to shoulder the cap for all these guys.
     
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    I just have to think about it and smile. With all the talk of draft, and putting rookies on the field to make a difference, which rarely works. Sean, GW and BB are going to have a field day this year , with all of the FA's that teams can't pay for.

    2011 NFL Free Agents: DL
     
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    The funny thing is the Jets have done virtually nothing in the last five years that could be considered innovative. For whatever reason, Tannenbaum is a supposed genius. Why?

    The only thing I'll give them credit for is some savvy drafting. Not to say it was really brilliant drafting because they had some pretty high picks to work with. They got Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, and Harris in the first round. I'd call Revis and Mangold great picks for where they were drafted. I don't see a lot of good late-round picks at all for the Jets, and I see a quarterback who has played well in big games but still has a QB rating of around 70. Point being that their drafting has resulted in some good players, but those players command high first round salaries and should be good.

    Onto free agency. The Jets have not signed a single player for salary/compensation that can be considered a bargain. To recap some of their moves last year. Jason Taylor and Ladainian Tomlinson, paid way above the highest bidders. Santonio Holmes, traded for a fifth-rounder because no one wanted the headache; once again the Jets were the highest bidder; ditto on Braylon Edwards. Bart Scott, again the Jets were willing to pony up the cash. Antonio Cromartie, the Jets were far and away the highest bidder, again giving away a second-round pick.

    Even in re-signing their own talent, the Jets didn't exactly get bargains with Mangold or (definitely not) Revis.

    What's the point? Good teams typically draft very well, regardless of their draft position, develop players, and get great bargains on the free agent market. That's how you beat the cap. Don't mistake aggressive bidding and a win-now mentality for a solid long-term plan.

    Look at all the guys the Patriots have who cost them virtually nothing and aren't giving them a huge cap hit. The Jets have very few of these guys. Logic tells me this will all catch up with them very soon.
     
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    We can't really make sure claims about any team until we've got the new financial parameters of the next CBA. There are just too many unknowns. For example: Kris Jenkins is due over $3.5 million. Does anyone expect the Jets to keep him around at that price if the cap is an issue? It's not as if they were unable to get by without him over the past two seasons, after all.
     
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    didn't i read recently that the pats have (or will have ) the leagues highest payroll? how will that affect our ability to keep or sign players, especially with so many picks coming up?:confused:
     
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    You must've read incorrectly.
     
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    FYI peterforpats, I knew it was low, never thought it was this low. Your looking pretty good for a 14-2 team.
    NFL Salaries 2010, NFL Salaries Cap, NFL Salaries By Position, Team.
     
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    from that list i'd just concentrate on ellis holmes and harris if i'm the jets
     
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    Question: Will the final 4 (Jets, Steelers, Bears, and GB) be restricted in free agency like they were last year, or does the labor situation change that?
     
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    Picks likely won't cost alot like they have in the past. Likely will finally be a rookie pay scale. For 2010 Patriots had 3rd lowest payroll in entire NFL.
     
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    Anyone know what the Jets draft pick situation is? I believe the 2nd is gone for Cromartie.
     
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    This is definitely a great thread.....anything to do with those dbags going through agony is awesome....BTW....The braylon Edwards crashing into building is sheer genius....describes the jest season perfectly.....BTW whoever did that....can u do one of fat Rex crashing into a hotdog stand...or Shoe store?
     
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