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Gholston was one of a very few players the Jets have missed on compared to the Pats.
Oh dear. Have you actually looked at your team's 2010 draft class?
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Gholston was one of a very few players the Jets have missed on compared to the Pats.
The core of the Jets team is made up through the draft.
Not talking smack, just stating what should be pretty much known around here..
Or 2009, or 2008, or 2011? Or 2005, 2004, 2003....Oh dear. Have you actually looked at your team's 2010 draft class?
You're not a bad guy jf1, but there's a lot wrong w/ this post buddy..
First off, they aren't "busts" if other teams claim them on the waiver wire. That actually proves the exact opposite. Everyone wants our castoffs, as proven by the 9 players signed that the team got rid of. Is there any other team whose castoffs are so highly sought?
You weren't personally a fan of this yr's moves? In the past 4-5 yrs, 12 out of our first 13 picks were on defense!!! (with the exception of Gronkowski) It was obviously time to address the offense with some high offensive picks.
We absolutely STOLE Mallett, who was projected to MIA at #15 overall in most of the mock drafts. We absolutely STOLE Cannon, who was a first round/early second rd pick in most mocks...You don't like those picks? LOL.
They added Solder at 17 overall, who is paired up with pro-bowler Light, and 2nd team all pro Vollmer to make up 3 incredible tackles! That, in your mind--is reaching???
We also made sure that the plethora of high 1st/2nd picks continues next yr, by replacing all of the usual 1st and 2nd additional picks all over again...it's playing with HOUSE money dude. Even if they fail, Belichick just replaces the high first and seconds anyway...
You have seriously got to be totally kidding me..
Add in Vereen and Ridley (who looked phenomenal) in the pre-season, and you also have 2 current/future RB's.
That, and the fact they got another 6'2" CB in Dowling, who was another 1st rd talent, and where exactly is the problem?
Next yr will be more of the same. Make sure you have 2 firsts, 2 seconds again for 2013, and take a bunch of young talent.
As a matter of fact, every single yr the draftniks rave about how BB is THE best at replacing and replenishing high rd picks.
The Jets actually have a very good-looking returner for punts and kicks in their rookie Kerley. They just don't have a 4th WR. Or a 3rd RB. 3Rd OT, 3rd Guard. 3RD CB.
Are we seeing the pattern? Meanwhile the Pats are leading the league in cut guys getting claimed. How does anybody think that is a better team?
Oh sorry, Gilyard has solved all of their problems.
Gholston was one of a very few players the Jets have missed on compared to the Pats.
The core of the Jets team is made up through the draft.
Not talking smack, just stating what should be pretty much known around here..
That's just silly, if they are let go from the Pats, they busted, all teams do release players that work out for other teams, Pats have done the same with players like Woodhead, and are trying so again with Ellis and Ihedigbo.
Teams will look at final cutdown day because it's usually when the most influx of talent will be on the waiver wire.
But many of those defensive picks have busted, it's why they continued to either draft defensive players, or sign older FA's.
Mallet was a nice pick from where you got him, but you didn't steal him, there was a reason he dropped, his off-the-field issues, and he also isn't the brightest bulb in the box, he struggles at the part of the game a QB should not struggle, at leas the better QB's in the league, his smarts. He does have very good physical attributes, but so did Ryan Leaf. Not at all saying he is the next Ryan Leaf, but let's be honest, not so sure a Pats fan can rave about a player they hope will never see the field for the duration of his current contract.
Light and pro-bowl is a farce, he's at the end of his career and was only put on the PB team because of multiple injuries and players backing out, we both know Light is an average OT at best.
Belichick does collect his picks, but what good are they if he continues to make questionable selections, or drafts players that bust out and wind up on the waiver wire, and never moves up in the draft to go after a blue-chip player? Sure, he has had some good picks, Gronk, Hernandez, McCourty look to be very solid, but if you look at the bigger picture over the last several years, the numbers aren't that good.
We really don't know anything about either of these players yet, not sure what you're trying to say here...
A first round talent? I've read a lot about how he was a reach, and what has he done thusfar, hasn't he been hurt, and has barely been on the field?
Again, no questioning Belichick collects pick, it's what he does with those picks. The media loves to whore out the master Belichick and his "mastery" in how he manipulates the draft, well, if all you were doing is evaluating how he trades and collects draft picks, sure, but what he actually does with those picks, I think that is the bigger issue, which is my point.
Obviously the Pats have some good talent, but with so many picks in recent years, you'd think they'd have so much more, and looking at the bigger picture, Brady masquerades many of those weaknesses, as does Belichick with his schemes and coaching.
Love to listen to Jets fans rationalize why it was smart last year to cut Woodhead. Music to my ears.McKnight has upside, a lot more than Woodhead has,
So you're calling 2 time pro-bowler and the guy with the 2nd most turnovers at his position (since starting) other than Polamalu--- Meriweather a bust? And Sanders, who has experience and QB'ed the defensive backfield--a bust? You're calling 2 of the highly sought after TE's that were cut and immediately thrown multiple waiver claims at 'busts?' Not sure what you are honestly getting at?
Even Tate returned 2 TD's on KO's last yr, and averaged 18 yards a catch..the depth was too great for these players.
They aren't necessarily 'busts' just b/c the depth was too great too keep them.
Love to listen to Jets fans rationalize why it was smart last year to cut Woodhead. Music to my ears.
Woodhead doesn't have upside, btw. Upside is when you haven't done squat but might be good one of these days. Woodhead was good last year. He has production. McKnight has potential upside and might possibly be productive this year (year 2 or 3?).
Upside and potential are great for rookies before their first regular season. After two years, a player who has no production but lots of potential upside is a guy who has been a disappointment.
Wait, so Meriweather was a good player? Wasn't he released because he struggled executing Belichick's scheme and struggled with the cerebral part of the game? You reference his pro bowls as if they should mean something, then why did the Pats release him? And please don't tell me it's the Pats depth, because they are replacing Merriweather with a player that isn't established at the position, obviously, something else went on, a bit deeper as to why Meriweather is no longer with the team.
Tate was a solid player, I actually was hoping the Jets would put in a claim, they did, and wound up with Gilyard, I'm just as happy.
The Jets have two very solid RB's in McKnight and the kid they drafted Powell, both have been impressive in camp, McKnight especially has improved from a year ago, remains to be seen what they have in Powell, but to say they don't have a 3rd RB is a stretch.
Same for WR, Kerley is their #4 WR, Gilyard is their #5 until he learns the system, not sure how you can knock a pick-up like Gilyard, his pre-draft reports are impressive, the kid has talent, was caught up in a numbers game in St Louis. Not sure what you mean by Gilyard solving any problems, he addresses depth, he's a pretty solid player to have as a #5 WR with upside to develop.
The Jets traded for their #3 OG in Schlauderaff, and will have Turner back in about a month to 6 weeks.
So the Pats are leading the league in guys getting cut getting claimed? Is that some noteworthy stat? Many times, it's players being picked up for teams to dissect for info. I find it a bit humorous that some of that talent the Pats are releasing is so that the Pats can use roster spots for ex-Jets?
Or 2009, or 2008, or 2011? Or 2005, 2004, 2003....
The Jets have 4 picks in 06-07 that were good, and thats the extent of their draft success,
They haven't drafted a player since Ryan showed up that is an average starter at his position, or really even close to it.
They guy is just weird. Players the Pats cut are busts because we had 60+ NFL-quality players and could only keep 53?I suppose the fact that the Patriots have won the AFCE 7 of the last 8 years only missing when Brady was knocked out in game 1 and have at least tied for the best record in the division TEN YEARS IN A ROW and the fact that in those 10 years no team has won more games, won more playoff games, gone to more CC games, won more CC games, gone to more SBs or won more SBs, makes your criticism of how Belichick builds a team ignorant and biased. But carry on and tell us how great a job getting 2 consecutive 6 seeds is in building a winner.
Very solid and have done nothing in the NFL do not go together.The Jets have two very solid RB's in McKnight and the kid they drafted Powell, both have been impressive in camp, McKnight especially has improved from a year ago, remains to be seen what they have in Powell, but to say they don't have a 3rd RB is a stretch.
Caught up in a numbers game? He was not good enough to make the Rams after spending an unpordcutive season on their bench. The Rams had maybe the worst WR corps in the NFL last year. No one else claimed him on waivers. You are the only team that wanted him.Same for WR, Kerley is their #4 WR, Gilyard is their #5 until he learns the system, not sure how you can knock a pick-up like Gilyard, his pre-draft reports are impressive, the kid has talent, was caught up in a numbers game in St Louis. Not sure what you mean by Gilyard solving any problems, he addresses depth, he's a pretty solid player to have as a #5 WR with upside to develop.
Right that 6th round pick who was getting cut by the Packers, and just saw your playbook today.. Gee you are all set there huh?The Jets traded for their #3 OG in Schlauderaff, and will have Turner back in about a month to 6 weeks.
Of course it is, because it indicates the quality of depth this team has. Guys who weren't good enough to make our team are good enough for other teams to claim, and cut a guy who made their team, sight unseen.So the Pats are leading the league in guys getting cut getting claimed? Is that some noteworthy stat?
Thats a joke right? You think Miami signed a UDFA TE to get info on us? Seattle a DL, why does Seattle need to waste a roster spot to ask a DT about a team they don't play this year? Cincy? Houston? Weakass argument by you.Many times, it's players being picked up for teams to dissect for info.
You mean the RB who was better last year than anyone you kept? Or the DL who was your best DL last year, that you wanted back and your coach was pissed at for leaving? Gotcha.I find it a bit humorous that some of that talent the Pats are releasing is so that the Pats can use roster spots for ex-Jets?
Yes I certainly do.You do realize Sanchez, Green, Slauson, Conner, all starters were drafted under Ryan, don't you?