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Gerry Callahan really ticked me off this morning..

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  1. Pattie

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    Listening to WEEI this morning he was complaining about Belichick not being willing to answer one "appropriate" non-football related question from Steve Buckley for his column. Gerry intimated that the fans "want" to know this kind of "innocent" stuff. Um...no Gerry we don't need to know or care to know what he thinks of Mangini as a coach. So long as Belichick continues to beat other organizations to death with that big brain of his I don't care if he *ever* answers a question from you or your brothers in the media. And, honestly, how is this different from the way Belichick has been since day one? He hasn't changed it just makes it difficult for the media to get a "hook" with which to work a storyline with. And besides which Belichick has been burned badly before by the media in both Cleveland and New York. Remember the headline in NY Post (I believe it was) "Belichicken". And here, in New England, Borges has been trying to backstab him since day one in his ongoing one man war against the coach. Sure it makes it more difficult a job for the media but I don't give a flying who-hah how *their* job is going so long as Belichick is coaching NE. So Gerry, in a nutshell, shut the heck up. Don't compare Belichick to Mangini because he's not. His experiences with the media have taught him caution (remember Tom Jackson's "they hate their coach" quote?) and who can blame him.?:p
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    I heard it too. What got me was that a caller said basically the same thing you did, Pattie, and JC replied with, "Well can't he do both? Parcells won games and gave good quotes." The truth of the matter is, it is all in the personality. Tuna could get away with it, BB is not comfortable doing that. He has his soft side, his family side. However he does not let emotions, family, etc intermingle with his football/professional side. Too many problems are caused that way. If you asked him 30 years from now about his relationship with EM, I'm sure BB would tell you the truth. However at this precise moment in time, BB does not see fit to share that information and who the hell is Jerry Callahan to insist that he does?
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    It really is amazing that with one of the best dynasties the sports world has ever seen, it seems the Boston media is unable to just enjoy it and unwilling to let US enjoy it either.

    They would actually probably be happier with a franchise with more to pick apart and second guess. BB has exposed them to be less relevant than the media thinks they are.
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    Exactly! He called Belichick "arrogant" well all geniuses carry a certain amount of that by their very nature, but Belichick has very good reasons for being cautious with the media. He doesn't trust them because, by the very nature of their job, it's to stir the pot, create controversy, do columns. Belichick refuses to feed the monster and, as I said, with very good reasons. Besides which trying to make him into Parcells is a mistake. Parcell's ego needs to be stroked by "attention" and he revels in it while Belichick by his very nature is a more reserved personality. Gerry is wrong, wrong, wrong to demand that Belichick change into something he's not for the perceived benefits to the "fans" which is a crock of you-know-what. Quit the whining Gerry.:rolleyes:
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    And what's worse Gerry and his crowd are taking that stand in "our" name i.e. the fans in taking Belichick to task. What a moron! Do we give a damn if Belichick never speaks another word again? No. So long as he coaches our team as he does now with the best interests of the team in mind long term. That third Lombardi trophy won't be our last if Belichick has anything to do with it. So back off media and quit hasseling the hc.:mad:
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    I can't listen to that station anymore, they all drive me crazy...

    Here's whats amazing to me. The Patriots, other than one or two seasons in the 70's and 80's, were arguably the worst franchise in football. Kraft comes along, keeps the team in MA, hires BB and SP, win THREE SUPER BOWLS and these guys act like they are a .500 team. They give them ZERO respect. You want to talk about people being negative. It starts with these talking head spewing their venom!

    If we look back in three years and see that we were more pretender than contender, then by all means criticize their way of doing things. Until then, shut the F up!!!

    BTW, a lot of these guys give Tito Francona the benefit of the doubt because he's a nice guy and talks to the media.
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    Jerry should move to Kansas City--the coach there will give him plenty of sound bites.
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    The mistake you made was listening to begin with.

    Belichick is never going to do the touchy-feely thing. It just isn't his way.
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    Patti, you nailed it. There must be some media cabal out to destroy the Pats. I think it may represent the Boston psyche, they just can't handle good fortune and always look for the cracks in the wall.
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    I think fans would like to know the answers to a lot of the questions but don't really care that they don't.

    I'd like to know what BB thinks of Mangini but it doesn't bother me for even 10 sconds that he doesn't want to answer that question.
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    The fans get that and don't even bother looking for touchy-feely but I think Borge's major snit began when Belichick refused to treat the media with kid gloves and answer all of their leading, nonsensical questions. Too bad for them but don't tell us that it's (this pushing of the HC for answers) that the "fans want to know" this stuff. That's an outright lie. This is the way Belichick handles his team and that's his basic personality. Deal with it Gerry.:rolleyes:
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    That's it exactly. With the fans it's more idle curiousity at best. But if it means making the coach uncomfortable/ill at ease would any of us really want that? Of course not. Let Belichick live in his office, stay OT studying film, have a kazillion meetings with Pioli over the next draft etc. That's what he does best and I, for one, want to leave him in peace to do his job.:D
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    I think Belichick DOES give his opinions to the press, if they would just listen! Didn't he say the other day that he cheers for his friends in the college ranks (Charlie Weis and the guy at Fresno State), but in the NFL he never cheers for the competition? That's the answer Gerry! What do they think he's going to say about Mangini? He obviously thinks he's a good coach - Mangini worked his way up the BB tree for years. How does BB (or anyone else) know if EM's a good NFL coach? He's only coached ONE game!! BB handles the press just right and he must crack up behind the scenes about all their wining!!
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    It's not just the media. As Deeds said, we are in Glory Years with the Patriots and seem unable to disperse a dark cloud of pessimism. All those years when we sucked, we still had the wait until next year feeling, and every draft brought new hope for the new season. Now it seems most fans think hope = homerism, and counter every optimistic thought with, "Rookie X has done nothing in the NFL yet" and "Free agent Y has done nothing with the Patriots yet." The player's worst stats are singled out and gloomed over.

    Sure the media pushes this crap, but who can blame them? They are talking to the majority of Pats fans, who refuse to feel good until there is "proof" that the Pats will be okay, and accept nothing but past performance as proof.

    We have had winning seasons for five straight years. We have won three superbowls, and been to the playoffs four of those five years (and the fifth we lost the division on the third tiebreaker).

    We should be in absolute pigskin heaven and light-headed about our football future. All along the way, BB has done things we questioned at the time, but later acknowledged was a good thing. When BB did was phenomenal. He took a team of average talent composed mostly of Vet min FAs, and won a Superbowl. He won two superbowls with teams with so many injuries that they set records for number of different starters.

    So when BB does something, do we say, "He's been right so far." No, we carp and complain. And if anyone does dare to say, "He's been right so far" then Donald Hayes/Steve Martin and Monty Beisel/Chad Brown are held up as examples of failures. BB deserves to be criticized because he didn't win the superbowl every year?

    Callahan and Felger are simply feeding into Patsfans need not to "wear rose-colored glasses" and "be objective" and see the worst in everything. As the great philospher Pogo said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."
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    I personally think that Pat's fans have no reason to feel that way either. It's really a carry over effect from dealing with the Red Sox. We just can't let go of the "fear factor" that it'll all disappear down the drain in a second. Listen to some of "idiot nation" calling in and screaming that the "sky is falling" because Branch moved on. The same ones that probably said that when Milloy left, Law left, etc. etc. Look, let's be realistic, we *aren't* going to win the Lombardi trophy every year. That's *impossible* but Belichick/Pioli will work their butts off to keep us in the running every darn year. So let's take a deep collective breath and think in the "long" term rather than if we don't win this year we *never* will again. That's just a defeatist attitude.:rolleyes:
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    I think its media sour grapes. Their just angry that they're reporters who have nothing to report. I'm sure the Boston reporters have friends in other cities covering other football teams and their quote and soundbite well is never dry. I'll be honest. I never listen to a BB interview on WEEI or anywhere else because he never says anything and speaks in a boring monotone. Could he be nicer to the media? Sure, but it's not in his contract. And it's been this way since he arrived in NE! This is nothing new. As long as the Pats keep winning, the only statements BB needs to make are on the football field. End of story...
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    As someone pointed out if they want sound bites why not go to Herm Edwards? He's a friendly guy and will give you *plenty* but would we want him as our HC? Bleep NO! I really can't feel sorry for the media who aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. That's the way the man is and he's not going to change for you!:p
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    I would disagree. Ask BB the right question and he will give you a great answer. I loved his answer that broke down the various alignments with Tampa 2. It was informative, if not completely well organized.

    If they would stick to football questions. Ignore the personality questions. Ask questions about schemes and formations, and you will get great answers.
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    It's obvious to the fans and believe me it's just as obvious to the "media whores" of the sports world. Oh, they listen, but this group is paid to ignore...it's just not good copy.
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    Callahan calling Belichick arrogant begs the pot kettle question.....

    Gerry would do well to remember that everybody's favorite HOF bound sound bite HC hasn't won a freakin' thing since the 1980's and hasn't sniffed a Superbowl since he lost his genius somewhere along the way...

    If that is what these media tools want, do what Jerome (who embarassed himself in his brief appearance on ESPN with Stephen A. Smith last night) did - move to friggin' Texas.

    And the only question that Buckley should be asking anyone is WFT happened to the Sox 7+ man rotation and did Theo or Tito call Annabel Sanchez to congratulate him on his no-no the other night - and the place to ask that is about 45 miles NNE of Foxboro.
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    I suppose...I mean, the Belichick Breakdowns on the Three Games to Glory DVD's are quite good. I guess it's the guys that are asking the questions that I have a problem with. Then again, I have a problem with them most days on the ride home with their "Guest" callers and yelling at the top of their lungs.

    BB is one of the elite coaches in the league and, when it's all said and done, will probably have a bust in Canton. His delivery in interviews is curt and stilted is all.
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    #75 Jersey

    BB answered hack Buckley's soppy question, "will you root for Mangini when he doesn't play the Patriots?

    "I'm more concerned about us doing well.

    Really, I don’t sit around the league cheering for everybody else. I cheer for the Patriots. That’s my team.

    I want to see us do well and I want to do everything I can to help us do well and that's really where my focus is.

    Everybody else is on their own"
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    brady2brown - I think a more apt analogy is faith=homerism (I hope I'll wake up in the morning, I have faith the sun will rise).

    You folks irritated both of my semi-dormant brain cells and have me wondering if BB's media relations' instructors taught him to see this as part of the game, learning to 'play' with the reporters in another version of bend but don't break, allowing the other guy to commit the turnover?
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    The Boston Media has absolutely zero effect on my ability to enjoy this dynasty. Stop giving them the time of day - they are nobody's.

    In fact, I get enjoyment out of wathcing their stupidity and frustration year after year.

    If you take any of them seriously, then 'your bad'.
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    Bottom Line, Nobody cares what Callahan thinks.

    Nobody respects the fool.

    Most people I know feel he is an ignorant, arrogant loser and don't listen to him. He's so pathetic the way he tries to talk about political and curretn event topics like he has some good judgement with any of it - he just makes a complete fool of himself everyday to millions of people. He is a sad, sad little man.

    If he could begin to conceive, even slightly for one moment, how stupid people find him and how much people despise him and disrespect him, I
    think he would be stunned right out of that 'I think I'm so smart' act of his.

    The fact that media only strives for ratings has made obnoxiousness the 'in' thing. Otherwise, people like borges and callahan couldn't get jobs cutting lawns.
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    Amen to that!
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    Callahan ticks me off every morning, whether it be his whining about liberals or Michael Moore, or if he goes off on one of his threads about gay people.. this show is more about politics than sports, for this reason along with the wimpy Meterperell in the background that I wage my own personal boycott of this show... Dennis is not much better, but Callahan tries to be outrageous. I have tried over and over again, but this show does not work for me.
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    I love the way BB handles the media, because he seems to be the only one who has the right idea. They have a way with taking a perfectly normal quote and blowing it up to this huge drama because they think that is what will get people's attention. The ONLY thing to say is to say nothing. Can you imagine if he had given them some answer about Mangini only to see the media try to blow it up into a little drama (a la Parcells/Belichick) right before the game? You know that's exactly what they are trying to do, particularly given this tampering thing between the Pats/Jets. BB is way too smart for that.

    Here in Washington, the media is very gentle with Gibbs, although they have every opportunity not to be. There's too much respect (Not so with Dan Snyder, but he doesn't have Gibbs' legendary status). And those days, at least as it stands now, were so long ago. This Patriots thing is happening right now and no one can just sit back and enjoy it. It's pathetic.

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