Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by marcus, Feb 8, 2008.
Best to let him go
Horrible... you can't buy opportunities like that...
It was a rare gift, and a complete failure on his part.
Oh and Mr. Sammuel... Imagine what your pay day would be if you held on to that... you were already getting good money, you hold on to that, and your breaking the banks somewhere... Oh and a reputation for the clutch CB in the playoffs... Man you would be P.A.I.D.
But never the less... I'll see you in Jets green... Thats your punishment, you have been sentenced to 5 years on the Jets with an option for 4 more years of probation depending on good behavior.
You're right, if he was worth half as much as he thinks he is he would have caught that ball.
Every time I hear people complain about it, I remember the play and it wasn't really an easy interception. The guy barely got his fingertips on it and had to worry about keeping his feet inbounds since he was so close to the sidelines.
LOL How not!!!
He's watching it the ENTIRE time... there no one around...
I would have been ok if he caught it and by mistake landed out of bounds... but before worrying about that, you got to accomplish step 1.
Pretty sure one dropped ball in the sb is not going to negate all the great things he did all year , and the year before.
Good corners will big time skills are hard to find. Asante will get paid.
If we let everyone go who had a realistic chance to make one play that would have won the game and failed, it is going to be an empty locker room - especially on defense. Seymour, Green, Vrabel, Thomas, Samuel, Rodney, Merriweather, etc, etc, etc.
yes one dropped ball negates it all
I don't think he could have gotten it, he's was an inch too short to pick that one off. Tough luck, we'll get them next year.
Asante himself said that if he wants to be considered one of the elite he must make that pick. On ascale of 1-10 it was a 6 Tyree's was a 15= Giants SB champs.
you seriously don't think he can jump higher than that? I've SEEN him jump higher than...not only that but HE HIMSELF said that he misjudged the ball and should have jumped higher.
I'm not saying that one thing lost the game for them but let's not go overboard defending him either.
Finally, someone gets it. It wasnt an easy play as everyone is saying it. He had to make a play on the ball. The ball wasnt right in his bread basket as some of you guys think.
Hence why you joined max 8 days ago.
Moss would have caught that... he's 6 inches taller. Plus, his vertical is likely greater. Finally, his arms are longer. That's probably at least a foot or two of an advantage right there. On top of all of that, Moss's hands are bigger and he's probably has more speed, is more agile, and can jump faster into the air than Samuel. All of that does not mean that Samuel made a mistake. That's obviously not a pass a short cb can catch.
The other things I forgot are that Moss expects a pass to come to him. Samuel expects the passes to go to the guy he's covering. In fact, the other QB is trying to NOT throw it to Samuel! Also, Moss and Brady practice many routes. Samuel and Eli did not practice together except for the Giants game earlier this season!
Brady can tell Moss exactly what the play will be, and aims for Moss, not the defenders. Eli doesn't tell Samuel exactly what he's about to do and when, and does not aim at Samuel.
What people can't get over is the fact that if he makes that INT, the game is over. They want that SOO badly, they ignore the fact that it was a HARD play. Oh, the pain.
Stuff happens. Samuel had a good year and I don't hold anything against him.
Yes, I joined this message board a few days ago...
But I have been a fan for 14 plus years, and if I need Internet cred, I have over 8k posts at another very popular patriots message board...
Should he have caught it? Maybe. I personally think if he'd judged his jump better he might have. Based on what he's said, I think he feels that way too.
Should the Patriots have put themselves in a position where he HAD to catch it to prevent them from losing the SB?
Even he said he should have caught it. He felt he had misjudged it and didn't leap high enough. That was a HUGE break for Manning and the Giants. How many times have you seen him make plays 10 times tougher than that one. Just look at his interception in the Charger game. Incredible play, 1000x harder than the one he dropped. He blew it almost, ALMOST as much as McCree did for the Chargers last year when he intercepted and fumbled what could have been the game clinching turnover. If the Patriots don't want him because of that drop the Chargers would take him in a heartbeat.
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