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  1. Brady2Moss

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    What's the boards opinion on signing Dwayne Bowe. It is doubtful KC franchises him again and he has had success in the Weis offense, his best year as a pro actually with Matt Cassel throwing him the ball

    72 Receptions, 1162 yards, 16.1 yards per catch, 15 TDs

    He would probably cost the same as Welker, but for a few more years

    5 years 50 million is the most he'd cost.

    This would give our offense a true do it all receiver he's physical, he can go deep, he can catch intermediate balls, draws the number 1 corner, takes off pressure from the middle.

    Lets get Brady his best receiver since Moss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g5HqKlFpVk
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    I think it's time to break the bank for that deep threat in order to make this offense unstoppable.

    Bowe: 6'2, 220 pounds...28 years old. Straight up, can go up and get it. EXACTLY what we need.

    Whats a harder offense to stop?

    Bowe, Lloyd, Gronk, Hernandez, Ballard?

    Or..

    Welker, Lloyd, Gronk, Hernandez, Ballard?

    Answer: with Bowe. Why? Because every inch of the field has to be respected...not just the middle of the field, where Welker does 90% of his work. I can't stress how much I have appreciated what Welks has done for us, but the Pats offense relies on him too much and as a result, when the playoffs come, you take away the middle of the field from Brady, you win the game.
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    Whatever WR we get, needs to replace Lloyd, not Welker. Lloyd is an idiot who can't take a hit, and can't get YAC.
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    Agreed and to those that say Bowe may not have chemistry with Brady. Screw it dude is one of the smartest quarterbacks ever, how can he not find a way to use this physical BEAST its not a 35 year old ocho stinko its 28 year old in his PRIME Bowe
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    I have been tuting Boww's horn for a while now but even though I love his skill set...IF we are priced out of his range...I would settle for Greg Jennings who was our original pick when we Traded with Greenbay for Chad Jackson. If Greg Jennings is on this Team Wes wouldn't be our number 1 option...yeah I said it! Greg Jennings can run every route in the book deep - intermediate - short His route tree is sick when healthy he is an Elite WR. P.s. Jenings would make Lloyd look like dog poop.
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    Personally, I dont want a 10 Mil a year WR. Its part of the reason I am ok with letting Wes walk but if we are going to shell out big money I would much rather Wes than Bowe.

    My opinion on the offense though is that Gronk and Hernandez got the big money the rest will need to be cheaper options but please not bargain basement options like this year. I think the roster as whole works better if we let Welker walk and replace him with an option that should be cheap like Edelman (huge downgrade at the position) Then we get another 2-3 Mil WR who can threaten deep (maybe a draft pick) kinda like the Stallworth signing on 07. This saves 4-5 Mil which can be used for an impact player on D.
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    I disagree. I believe a deep threat opposite of Lloyd would make Lloyd even more effective in this system. There's too many people (Welker, Hernandez, Gronk, Ballard, Edelman) who are in the middle of the field, and not enough people stretching the field.
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    I'd be really opposed to giving a five year deal to a guy who turns 29 early next season.
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    People give welker crap for dropping balls in the SB and AFCCG, they will NOT like this guy. He has an uncanny ability to drop a ball at the absolute worst time. Otherwise, a great player, but that's a pretty big knock on a guy that is supposed to push us over the top and make the key play in the big game.
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    I don't even know where to begin in addressing this post
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    People are going to love this guy

    1) He is a nuckle head

    2) He has been the Top 10 in dropped catchable passes over the last few years

    3) He loves to run around and did alot of worst when the kansas chief tried to implement the the NE system.

    4) he wants to be paid , even if has not a very productive year as he will tell you he is the top receiver .11-12 m range.
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    I don't want to give any WR at 10 mil. The draft has some good WR's who will go late 1 to the end of the 2nd. I'd be happy trading Welker for a pick, drafting WR with 2 of your first 3 picks, bringing back Edelman and using the rest of the money on Talib, maybe Vollmer or maybe more D help.
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    Wes Welker is a much better receiver than Dwayne Bowe. And, by much better, I mean that Bowe doesn't even belong in the conversation.
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    You think rookies will be good enough come play off time to help us out,

    it takes a while we drafted Branch in 02 and missed the playoffs. I'm scared to trust our last few golden years to rookies at position we have 0 success at drafting.
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    No....


    The WR they get needs to replace Branch, but he needs to be an outside the lines guy who can win battles against press coverage.
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    lloyd is an idiot...you heard it here first :rolleyes:


    Bowe over welker? HA
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    This. They might as well put a cheerleader out there running routes at this point.
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    Yes but the reason that they missed the playoffs in 02 wasn't because Branch was a rookie.

    It was because the run defense was one of the worst in the NFL and the pass defense allowed WRs to run around uncontested.
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    I like Lloyd very much, but there is at least a grain of truth in that post: He shies away from contact in a way that makes Deion Branch look like Earl Campbell.
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    Wouldn't be the first time they said screw it only to find it truly screwed. Bowe is a selfish, mistake prone talent who shows up to play when it suits him and that's not on a consistent basis. He was part of the problem in KC where Pioli wrestled with flipping him only to be talked out of it by Haley. Should have flipped him and kept the TE instead and he might still have a job.
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    I would stay away from Bowe because he has terrible dropsies, but I'm willing to bet that the open market will say that Bowe is not only in the same conversation, but about $2m/year better than Welker.
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    Yeah, I think Bedard did a pretty good job highlighting Branch's play on Sunday in his column and why he needs to go into a forced retirement. The Pats need a third WR who can do something. I think Edelman can be that guy, but he needs to stay healthy.
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    Money often doesn't match talent. That's one thing that's consistent in every pro sport. Welker is always going to be underrated because he's "just a slot WR", even though he's one of the elite WRs in the game. That's why he's not getting 14-16 million a year.
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    Personally, I don't know enough about Bowe (how many KC games have anyone of us actually watched), but I don't know if he is a fit here. He didn't get along with Pioli and Crennel. So I doubt he is going to get a glowing recommendation.
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    Bowe had his worst catch %/ targets last year. Overall he catches between 54-59% of passes thrown to him every year and was at his best was when Weis was there and Cassel was upright. Lloyd was about 57% last year.
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    You can't trade a play who isn't under contract. Welker will be an UFA when you can begin making trades again at 4PM on March 12th. Unless they tag him again by March 4th, and he'd have to sign that tag to be tradeable. Last season he signed his tag in May in order to attend mini camp and as a show of good faith and lost all leverage. He also saw them attempt to replace him with Edelman early in the season and had it worked he knows where that likely would have landed him. On the trading block with no say over where that landed him. He'd have zero incentive to do that to himself again this season. He'll have more choice and get paid more as a FA. Otherwise he likely doesn't sign a tag this time until camp opens if not later.
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    Lloyd came to us dirt cheap. Sign Welker, keep Lloyd, draft a receiver that is capable of threatening every level of the field with a high round pick, and for God's sake, DON'T MISS.
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    I think it's possible. Gronk and Hernandez came in and contributed their rookie years. McDaniels would probably have a big say on who the WR or WRs would be. Denver seems like they'll be fine for a few seasons at the WR position. McDaniels is the reason for that. Thomas in the 1st and Decker in the 3rd.

    I just think with Gronk, Hernandez, Lloyd, Edelman (if he is back), Ballard(?) and the running game you could ease rookie receivers in through the course of the year and then in November you start implementing them more. If a guy can play, he can play. TY Hilton, Chris Givens, Josh Gordon, etc are proof of that.

    But it's not like rookie receivers would now be the vocal point of the offense they would be a compliment.

    And the Branch is example, I don't know, if a rookie where to come into this offense and put up something similar (maybe a little better) to what he did but did it as an outside threat in this offense. Isn't that what we want? Besides that was a Charlie Wise offense that wasn't exactly coming off a season that statistically was one of the best offenses of all time.

    So maybe this offense is at the point where a rookie wide receiver that is physical or is legit deep threat on the outside could come in and help.

    And maybe they also take a run at signing someone like Brandon Gibson not flashy but a guy that has been consistent and McDaniels has some familiarity with. With what I have seen he seems like a some what physical outside guy that can go up and get it.
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    What I say to that is Denver seems like they are set for the future at #1 & #2 and they can thank McDaniels for it.

    I would assume any receiver drafted would ultimately be McDaniels pick. Now that's not to say if McDaniels said he wanted Justin Hunter in the 1st round and he was there at #29 that Belichick would go for it. That's saying if Belichick said I want a receiver with our first pick that McDaniels would have a lot of say on who it was.
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