First, when did I ever say Manning isn't any good anymore? I said he overcame his physical limitations of not being able to throw the ball deep with his quick release and football smarts. That is what make Manning a great QB.
Second, I said in the post you quoted that they are don't need to go after a deep threat. Why would they go after a deep threat that plays into their QB's weaknesses? As you seem to agree with me that they are trying to build an offense to maximize Manning's strengths and hide his weaknesses, it would stupid to get a guy who can " stretch the field".
Third, what I said is that with Manning's age and neck, his decline in physical skills will eventually become too much for his other skills to overcome. That is a fact. I also said that it could happen this year or two or three years from now. I said that his physical skills make it a question mark until we see him throw this summer. Assuming he is going to remotely as good as he was last year may be a bit premature.
Why do you continue to twist my words. You are creating arguments I am not making.
We had similar argument last year where you said the Ravens wouldn't miss a beat and would be a strong Super Bowl contender and I said they wouldn't make the playoffs. You mocked me then too. Of course you twisted that into that I predicted their defense would suck when I said the offseason additions last year were overrated (see Rolando McClain, Chris Canty, and Marcus Spears) and their defense wouldn't be good enough to overcome their offense. I was right then. Time will tell if I am right now.
No one was trying to start an argument, Rob. Chill out, dude.
I implore you to re-read my small and basic response about Manning, because I think you are making way too big of a deal about nothing. There are tons of people on this board who constantly bring up Manning's "lame duck" arm, and yet he seems to do pretty well still, which was my point. I wasn't putting words in your mouth, you can look through this thread alone and see the implication that Manning somehow isn't as good. That wasn't necessarily in response to you, but more to the general thought of homerism. Another popular thought lately is that the DEN OL suddenly isn't any good, due to losing one player in Beadles. People forget that they played the entire year without their franchise LT Clady, so I attempted to clarify that misconception just the same as Manning being 1/2 as poor as some seem to claim. We're on a Patriots related board, so I certainly don't fault those who are fantasizing a bit. At the same time, you can't fault me for trying to keep it real either.
As far as my thoughts on the Ravens last year: I did not say that the Ravens wouldn't "miss a beat and would be a strong SB contender" at all. Talk about twisting words! As far as twisting your words now, I haven't responded to many of your posts, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. Either you are thinking of someone else, or you are generalizing a few instances here and there over the years. I am not known for "twisting words."
I said that you were making way too big of a deal
about their losses on defense, and I was proven to be right. Their defense was significantly better last year--by far. I claimed that they very well could end up stronger due to their weak defense in 2012 when they won the SB. I said that they would end up right around the same record that we've known them to accomplish with a prediction of around 9-7, since that was what they won the SB with and have finished around recently. I also said many times that "if they played the season 3 times, we'd likely see 3 different division winners for the AFCN," so please...give credit where due, and let's not take this any further than you've already attempted to take it.
