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Question: When the Bills fans were shouting "we want Brady", did they understand what that meant? I mean, um, best case, they get Tom Brady.
 
Just commenting on something you wrote that is not factual. No need to take offense.
No offense, was just trying to tease you a bit..hence the original :p, but not sure what facts you have that supported your conclusion. Perhaps later in his presser he made a comment you might have keyed on.

These were bits i keyed in on:
"I'm gonna tell you exactly like I told our team. First off this loss is squarely on one man's shoulders. It's on my shoulders. We gotta get better as a team there's no question. I have to get better . . . That's how it ended up. It's unfortunate."
  • Also talked about emotions and how it was on him. he has to get better.
  • He mentioned about giving up 500+ yards and it's hard to win a game, but that seems like a truism for most teams.
I just took (my opinion, you and anyone is free to argue though it helps to state what leads you to a different conclusion) those self-blaming statements as a BB-like approach to post-game discussion with the media.
 
Question: When the Bills fans were shouting "we want Brady", did they understand what that meant? I mean, um, best case, they get Tom Brady.


Like grabbing a King Cobra by the tail.....until it turns around and bites your @$$.
 
Like grabbing a King Cobra by the tail.....until it turns around and bites your @$$.
I would like to elaborate on your point. It's more like they grab the King Cobra by the tail and thought they were awesome and brave. Us scoring 40 and winning is more akin to the Cobra's turning around and looking at them. Then you get that sudden dread that fills the pit in your stomach when you realize it wasn't such a "good" idea.. They'll get the bite on Monday November 23rd, when they come to Foxboro.
 
3. Superstar I - Much of the team’s unpredictability, their ability to game plan and to adapt on the fly is predicated on Brady’s experience, knowledge and instincts. Those who think Brady is “in decline” are not only indulging in wishful thinking, they are ignoring just how much Brady’s mental approach brings to the NE offense. The Patriots do things other teams can’t even think of doing.
Well said. And I'd add that since Brady is such a smart & savvy player, his growing/learning doesn't stop, so even when he does see some physical signs of decline (and seriously, question: have there been any? If so, I don't see them) he will make up for that with his increasingly large reservoir of accumulated wisdom.

At a certain point, arm strength will go (Manning), or an injury that would have been minor in the past becomes more of an issue (Brees, looks like). But man....this guy is good.
 
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I would like to elaborate on your point. It's more like they grab the King Cobra by the tail and thought they were awesome and brave. Us scoring 40 and winning is more akin to the Cobra's turning around and looking at them. Then you get that sudden dread that fills the pit in your stomach when you realize it wasn't such a "good" idea.. They'll get the bite on Monday November 23rd, when they come to Foxboro.


I think that about sums it up, well stated !!!
 
What's remarkable is how many times this same story unfolds every year. "That one big purchase that's going to put us over the top"...

NFL owners and execs seem to have both a learning disability, and the impulse control of a teenage boy who thinks getting a red muscle car is going to get him laid.

Damn!


On a side note is anyone looking to buy a vintage red muscle car?
 
No offense, was just trying to tease you a bit..hence the original :p, but not sure what facts you have that supported your conclusion. Perhaps later in his presser he made a comment you might have keyed on.

These were bits i keyed in on:

  • Also talked about emotions and how it was on him. he has to get better.
  • He mentioned about giving up 500+ yards and it's hard to win a game, but that seems like a truism for most teams.
I just took (my opinion, you and anyone is free to argue though it helps to state what leads you to a different conclusion) those self-blaming statements as a BB-like approach to post-game discussion with the media.
I believe it was the next day. So actually, he did take the blame, and then later sort of retracted it, now his 'blame' is that he was wrong to expect his DL to win the matchup, and of course he is blaming the refs too.

Gotta be careful with people that lack character. If you put too much stock in one comment you usually find out later that they spit all over it. As is the case here.
 
Not sure where I saw this, but they fell well short. They got to 124 decibels but needed something like 142 for the record.

Zeus, I'm not disputing you (by the way, fabulous 10 Point Into post in this thread, just fantastic!), you are just quoting these amateur Guinness Book of World Records (GBWR) people who walk around with a sound meter. IMHO, that has to be a publicity stunt for GBWR and the NFL, I wouldn't really put much credence what these GBWR people say. There will always be little "hot" spots where the sound constructively interferes for a louder reading than would be the case for the entire stadium.

I won't copy my standard Lecture Viewgraph on this, but the sound threshold for ear pain is about 110 dB - 120 dB (0.1-1.0 Watts/meter squared). 142 dB (almost 160 Watts/meter squared) would be extremely painful, I can't believe the entire stadium was that loud for that "so called GBWR Record", that sounds like nonsense to me, IMHO people would be running around with earsplitting pain, and even short term exposure to 142 dB could cause permanent damage, eardrum rupture is anticipated to occur at 150-160 dB. That "stadium noise record" just sounds like a GBWR and NFL publicity stunt. It is so unlike the NFL to be associated with non-scientific publicity stunts. :cool:
 
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This clip sums Rex up.

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John F Kennedy once said that a certain diplomat was "so full of **** that if you gave him an enema, you could bury him in a match box."

Also true for Rex ...
 
Great post Zeus. I am not buying into the "Luck will someday" thing any longer. I just don't see it. Sure he could be a good QB but I don't see great.

If you look at his stats Luck really seems a lot like Eli Manning. Relatively low completion percentage, relatively high interception percentage.
 
Great post, Andy.....again. You write so well. Can I hire you to edit me and make some sense out of all the crap I write each week. ;) BTW - don't forget to let me know if you have an extra tix this year.
 
A couple of comments on your comments

1. You are right on the money with BB. Someday there will be a closer examination of how BB has built this machine to become the virtual unstoppable force that it has. And its not just just X's and O's. It's how they groom and develop their coaches, their scouting department, and all the other support aspects of a winning team

2. Back to the coaches. The Pats are unique in that they currently don't have a single coach who played in the NFL except Ray Ventrone who is in his first year. They also have the smallest staff in the league. Bi will has essentially surrounded himself with football geeks just like himself. Other guys who can see past the brutality of the game to its beauty and wonder. Guys who might not have played the game at the highest level, yet because they are the kind of guys who will go out and find the best best drills and do anything they can to get their players to their peak, those players respect them.

It might help that at first they have BB back them up, but eventually all these guys are seen as making their own contributions, and that's all the players want. They know that almost all of their coaches started in the film room break down film, and are only let out when they prove themselves are let out to work with players, and they don't stay long if they can't prove that they can make players better.

Someone should FINALLY tell Rex that players don't want a buddy, OR a motivator. They didn't get there without being self motivated. What they want is to be put in the position to succeed, and to be prepared to have the best chance to win the game. BB has respect because more often than not, when he tells his players if they do A, B, and C and they will win the game; it HAPPENS. And in those rare occasions when it doesn't he tells them why and promises to do better.

3. Bill's comment to Rex's humblepie was EXACTLY the right response. I almost shed a tear when I read it. It only shows that Rex doesn't have a clue. What he said was a insult to the Pats players and diminished their efforts. Bill didn't hesitate to have his players backs. In typical fashion Bill made it "all about THEM", instead of "all about HIM", like Rex. :rolleyes:

4. What Bill understands better than any coach in the league is that HE, and everyone else that works in the program have just ONE job, and that is most definitely NOT to be the face of the franchise. His ONLY job is to get his team prepared for the next game.....and nothing else. If he had his druthers, he'd never have to say a word to the press. And his players know and love this, despite the fact he works their asses off and demands more mental study and discipline than any HC in the league. They knew when the signed up for this expectations were higher here, and success is hard.

5. But it's not just the philosophical and organizational stuff that makes the difference. I believe the key advantage is language. I thought you'd appreciate that Andy. Yes, language or semantic. I marveled watching Brady being able to communicate so much complex information so compactly under so much noise. But its not just important to communicate things in adverse conditions; it the key to being able to have weekly offensive and defensive game plans designed specifically to the team you are playing.

How can the Pats do it, while the rest can't.,......... Language. I don't don't know what it is or how it works, but somehow, with just a few words and motions, Brady can tell 11 players the play the routes, the blocking scheme, and most likely the back up play, in a matter of 5-8 words.

But more important than that skill, the language has to be so transparent that every player can given information that week that will allow him to be able to absorb a new offensive plan designed for just one team, and the same for the defense. A system so fleixible and interactive that immnediately after the game you can throw both plans way and start with a fresh sheet of paper, and by the time they come in on Monday, they will have ready on paper a rough plan for both sides of the ball for next teams plan, and they will all be able to absorb all their asignments and have it down by Friday.

The Semantics for them to be able to do all that must be phenomenal, It also must have taken a very long time to have evolved. But because it exists and we have a QB who have mastered it, we are the ONLY team in the league who can throw it 60 time this week, and run it 4o times the next. That is an unbelievable advantage to have in a competitive environment that is SO tight to begin with. (and another reason we don't have to cheat.)

6. Just thinking about this language and I just blew my mind when this thought occurred to me. This language has to be SOOOOOOOOO flexible and transparent, that when players move from our team to another the language has to be able to change enough, or be complex enough that it doesn't turn into a weakness if someone knows it. :eek: Simple/complex/flexible/complex/compressed/etc

Think about it and be amazed
 
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This clip sums Rex up.

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Rex , "One of these days Belichick....One of these days....POW .....right in the kisser":D


I could watch Honeymooner episodes all day.
 
I'm sorta a real life Ralph Kramden myself...:eek:
 
Only idiots thought Graham was better than gronk and that's ignoring the fact that Graham is really a wide receiver lining up at TE
 
Only idiots thought Graham was better than gronk and that's ignoring the fact that Graham is really a wide receiver lining up at TE
Gronk is a small Lineman playing WR?

In reality, he's (Gronk) been the talent BB has been looking for since...probably he was a coach. But anyone still saying they are 1A and 1B are deluding themselves.
 
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