Official Brady vs. NFL Federal Court 8/12 Thread (LIVE UPDATES)

tatepatsfan · Aug 12, 2015

Rob0729 said:
"Judge Berman made it clear today that he won't be taking this case because judges do not want to get involved in arbitration under collective bargaining. But he did make it clear that if he was to hear this case that he feels that the NFL has laid out a solid case that proves Brady orchestrated a scheme to deflate balls in the AFC Championship Game. If I was Kessler, the NFLPA, and Brady; I would settle for that four game suspension because this judge could increase the suspension to eight games."

- Lester Munson

Stop it, did he really say that? Increasing the suspension isn't even on the table.

nabwong · Aug 12, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Jim Armstrong ‏@JimArmstrongWBZ 5m5 minutes ago
First look at sketches from today's #DeflateGate hearing. Credit: Jane Rosenberg

Whoa....is that supposed to be Brady? Yuck

Who drew that? Stevie wonder?

SVN · Aug 12, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Tom Leyden ‏@TomLeyden 5m5 minutes ago
Brady and Goodell had opportunity to greet each other with at least a head nod in court and did not. Goodell seemed to try, not Brady.

Damn....you know Brady is mad when he gives you the cold shoulder like that

Credit brady for not punching him. I dont know how he can stand seeing them

Patsfanin Philly · Aug 12, 2015

SVN said:
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 14m14 minutes ago
Attorney Jeff Kessler admitted Tom Brady could have handled cell phone differently. But said it's "most overblown issue in 40 years of law."

as expected ..

Was that a dig at Wells comment about , " in my 40 years of law I never "?????

<<<<Wells: "I did reject it based on my assessment of his credibility and his refusal or decision not to give me what I requested in terms of responsive documents. And that decision, so we can all be clear and I will say it to Mr. Brady, in my almost 40 years of practice, I think that was one of the most ill-advised decisions I have ever seen because it hurt how I viewed his credibility<<<<<

Rob0729 · Aug 12, 2015

JMC00 said:
Wait is this for real? Or what you are expecting him to say. Because it is something I could see him saying.

No it was a joke, but it is telling that even writing idiotic drivel that people can't tell if Munson really said it.

aluminum seats · Aug 12, 2015

karguy85 said:
Definitely satire.

If that's the case, then let's stop the lame satire guys. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that these idiots would say something like that, and it's not funny.

Fencer · Aug 12, 2015

karguy85 said:
Important perspective (re ideal gas law and deflation):

Tom Leyden ‏@TomLeyden 5m5 minutes ago
Kessler prefaced answering questions with "We do not believe there is real evidence such deflation occurred," as determined in Wells Report

Good. Then I don't have further significant concerns about him accepting the hypothetical that McNally misbehaved in the bathroom.

reflexblue · Aug 12, 2015

tatepatsfan said:
Stop it, did he really say that? Increasing the suspension isn't even on the table.

Boy Rob 7029? is Good.

XLIX · Aug 12, 2015

Patsfanin Philly said:
Was that a dig at Wells comment about , " in my 40 years of law I never "?????

I think this is absolutely correct.

karguy85 · Aug 12, 2015

SVN said:
Credit brady for not punching him. I dont know how he can stand seeing them

Brady could have punched him and the settlement could have been 4 games for punching Goodell, no admission of guilt regarding deflation...

Gronkowski123 · Aug 12, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Jim Armstrong ‏@JimArmstrongWBZ 5m5 minutes ago
First look at sketches from today's #DeflateGate hearing. Credit: Jane Rosenberg

Whoa....is that supposed to be Brady? Yuck

wtf happened to his hair?

SHOWTIME15 · Aug 12, 2015

it would have been great if Ikemefuna Enemkpali were there to sucker punch goodell

patsinthesnow · Aug 12, 2015

The globe bringing out out their last ditch effort attacks as their beloved baseball team inches closer to the basement.

hwc · Aug 12, 2015

TommyBrady12 said:
i feel like today was the best day for our side in this deflategate saga (so far)

There are no good days in DeflateGate. Only bad days, worse days, and days of horror. If the NFL rescinded Brady's suspension, gave back the draft pick, and fired Goddell, the whole thing would still be a nightmare.

Hoodie · Aug 12, 2015

karguy85 said:
Important perspective (re ideal gas law and deflation):

Tom Leyden ‏@TomLeyden 5m5 minutes ago
Kessler prefaced answering questions with "We do not believe there is real evidence such deflation occurred," as determined in Wells Report

Ah, so Kessler didn't abandon the Ideal Gas law. Only conceded it was possible McNally did something. Thanks for the context.

JMC00 · Aug 12, 2015

Patsfanin Philly said:
Was that a dig at Wells comment about , " in my 40 years of law I never "?????

Oh it definitely was.

DaBruinz · Aug 12, 2015

JR4 said:
HOLD the optimism. What Berman did today was try to get people to think about their positions.
Consider "Are you right or wrong?" he seems to be encouraging. If He can lead the sides to see problems with their position maybe it will help them settle.

The next court date will be about CBA procedure violations. It probably won't matter if the balls were intentionally deflated but only the if Goodell believed they were and will focus on possible CBA procedure violations. That may not go Brady's way.
The hearing today was just to get the sides to think about their position. IMO.

See, I disagree. The fact that Berman called into question the veracity of the Wells report and the lack of evidence against Brady signals that, without a settlement, the NFL is very likely to lose because they'd have no basis for the punishment. And with no basis, everything else was a farce and unwarranted..

SHOWTIME15 · Aug 12, 2015

Rob0729 said:
No it was a joke, but it is telling that even writing idiotic drivel that people can't tell if Munson really said it.

the problem is munson is so stupid it looked like a genuine quote

Kdo5 · Aug 12, 2015

Goodell really is a stooge. Did he actually think Brady was going to play nicely with him? I bet Brady wanted nothing more than to flip him the bird.

upstater1 · Aug 12, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
Except the question isn't simply a matter of "Were the balls deflated?"

The question is, "Were the balls deflated, and, if so, did Brady have an active hand in causing that to happen?"

Using the first question would be like suspending Matt Ryan because the Falcons pumped in fake noise.

Well, today the judge said the balls were deflated. He wasn't asking. Doesn't mean he believes it. But he did say it.

He also said that it is inexplicable that a QB would not know the ball was deflated.

In other words, he went all Brunell on Tom Brady.

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