Seriously...why is it taking so long?

Can he really let this and the tampering charge drag on beyond the draft? We know that "There is no smoking gun" and really the entire issue is ridiculous (Thank You Bob Kraft for stepping up and giving that horribly run LO a solid F-U!). Allowing the Wells "investigation" on slightly under-inflated footballs drag on for 3 months is almost unconscionable. Unless he's going to blast on that completely inept LO there is no other reason that makes sense.

From Kensil's obviously targeted set-up/sting down to the disgustingly unproven and disparaging leaks that flowed from that office like a dam in New Orleans this will go down as one of the most overblown and overhyped witch-hunts in history.

Goodells latest statement of "That investigation is close to being wrapped" and following it up with "We haven't spoken in weeks" is the most absurd commentary on a subject that absolutely consumed the American consciosness for 2 solid weeks.

How in the hell do you know this is almost over but haven't talked to a guy in weeks? Did your proffesional leakers let you know? If Wells comes out and smashes that LO like we all know he should I would gain a newfound respect for him and maybe even lobby for him to replace the current commissioner. That office needs to be swept clean.

Dr Pain said:

Because the investigation about the patriots is done, not the Colts, Ravens and NFL's role

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I'd love to believe that's true. Unfortunately, it would be completely contradictory to the league's attitude toward and treatment of the Patriots since The Incompetent Dope became commissioner. So, sadly, I ain't buyin' it...

Jackson 2 said:

I'd love to believe that's true. Unfortunately, it would be completely contradictory to the league's attitude toward and treatment of the Patriots since The Incompetent Dope became commissioner. So, sadly, I ain't buyin' it...

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You need to Get With The Program.
We've been told here time & again by the Goodell rump swabs that the NFL's growing revenue and ratings is proof positive of Goodell's supreme leadership. He deserves an 8 figure bonus.

PatsWickedPissah said:

You need to Get With The Program.
We've been told here time & again by the Goodell rump swabs that the NFL's growing revenue and ratings is proof positive of Goodell's supreme leadership. He deserves an 8 figure bonus.

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Sorry, PWP...I still ain't buyin' it!

FYI here is the windshield pits story I was talking abouthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Windshield_Pitting_Epidemic

Teams never measured other teams footballs PSI till someone did against the Patriots, then as others did it, only on Patriots balls, they saw PSI had fallen and determined that the Patriots must have done it. Hey check the Patriots balls, they are below 12.5 PSI, gee they are rascals. But no team checked their own balls to see if they were too.

Dr Pain said:

FYI here is the windshield pits story I was talking abouthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Windshield_Pitting_Epidemic

Teams never measured other teams footballs PSI till someone did against the Patriots, then as others did it, only on Patriots balls, they saw PSI had fallen and determined that the Patriots must have done it. Hey check the Patriots balls, they are below 12.5 PSI, gee they are rascals. But no team checked their own balls to see if they were too.

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Nothing better than mass delusion that doesn't involve me or anyone or thing that I care about.

Clonamery said:

Nothing better than mass delusion that doesn't involve me or anyone or thing that I care about.

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They said this one was collective delusion. In the deflategate the collective was the press. I get that neither the Ravens or Colts would have measured their own balls as they knew they didn't deflate them so when they saw the Patriots ball was down they figured tampering. I am ok with them passing it on to the the NFL but if someone at the NFL Kensil? was gunning for the Patriots, saw this as the perfect opportunity and when they saw the balls were down on PSI assumed it was tampering and ran with it there is the problem and what Wells is probably spending time on. Then the press jumped in with their own case of self reinforcing collective delusion where they were reporting more of what other people in the press said building this like a snowball rolling downhill. Kraft needs to at least send threatening legal letters out to ESPN etc... when this is done. Make them think 2x next time. This was caused by the NFL but blown up by the collective delusion of the press.

And we have officially reached the close of business of yet another week.

This line in the NFL’s statement announcing the investigation indicated that the league’s ears were open to anybody who wanted to whisper in them: “Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well.”

Aaron Rogers' interview about his admitted attempts to get over inflated balls past the refs will make great reading.

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Who is to say Ted Well's is even looking at this full time? Have to imagine all the interviews are done on the Patriots side. The Columbia university experts have had more than enough time to provide their input. Not sure what else they could be "investigating" at this point. I am just puzzled on why they are taking so long. Or they are trying to frame an outcome that is PR-friendly.

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I was going to say this. Pretty sure a lawyer of his weight has a ton of other stuff going on. And then, probably, a lot of the actual work gets done by minions who are billed at a much lower rate that work Wells actually does.

I really hope Curran is wrong about the league conducting an invasive colonoscopy of the entire organization because that would be ridiculously unfair. The investigation should be limited to information that directly pertains to the accusation of deflated footballs. Having the entire team's books opened up and scoured through with a magnifying glass is complete horses**t because of course they will find something wrong! They'll find out that on so and so a Tuesday in October Belichick had an off the books padded practice, or on so and so a Wednesday wrongly kept a guy off the injury report, or some other inconsequential and irrelevant thing like that. Little things that EVERY team does but because they apparently have the equivalent of an indiscriminate search warrant to investigate every single claim that any other team might want to slanderously accuse us of we get f**ked. It's like when when a cop pulls a guy over and oh so conveniently claims that he thought he smelled weed, giving him grounds to search the entire car for any excuse to nail the driver.

Are we guilty of knowingly tampering with the footballs beyond what is allowed by the current NFL regulations? If yes punish us. If no then leave us the f**k alone and stop this sorry excuse for a fishing expedition.

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Having the entire team's books opened up and scoured through with a magnifying glass is complete horses**t because of course they will find something wrong!

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This is why we have to pound home on twitter etc... That Aaron Rodgers admitted he sends in balls over the PSI limits so they get through the reffs. A key is the Colts saying they suspected from November. Well that game was in Indy so all the Colts could have done is measure the balls the Patriots gave the reffs because for the entire game, the Patriots game balls would have been controlled by Indy on the Indy sideline. I am sure they will say the seemed soft to them (didnt measure) but from what we have learned, the chain of custody would have been Patriots-Reffs-Indy staff and sideline.

How many days ? A bit over 80 ?

I know the Dolphin's Wells report lasted a hundred days. But to have this amount of time pass is very strange. If they are only investigating the balls and NE's procedures, this is an awfully long time. If they are going after Indy and the League Office, it makes a bit more sense in terms of time spent - but...

This is the weirdest story in sports since the Bobby Valentine mustache episode.

Well Felger and Mazz have again weighed in on the Wells report and it should be of no surprise that they believe that the report will be damaging to the Patriots. No surprise since Felger has always believed that the Pats knowingly tampered with the balls, even in the face of all evidence to the contrary. What concerns me is that they were extensively referencing the Curran article and while they put words in his mouth I feel like they did make some concerning points about how the league will find something and f**k us. Of course I'm sure they are looking forward to it but I digress. For the first time in a while I am getting worried that we are going to get screwed. Not because we actually did anything wrong but because of unfair bias against us. For a couple months now it's been a pretty optimistic outlook on how the Wells report was seemingly going and how it seemed that the investigation was taking so long because the league or the Colts were a major focus. But now if Curran's fears are right (and they might be) the NFL might have spent the past 3 months pouring over every single internal detail of the Patriots and after 80 days they finally found some BS discrepancy in something to nail us.

Ivan any chance you can cheer me up?

Ivan is busy pasting pics into his Wes Welker album but will be back to you shortly.
I'm off to watch the SpaceX launch.

I cannot fathom how they can screw us. The core central allegation of tampering with footballs by removing air is completely unsupportable. They would have to simply deny the reality of PV=nRT.

Because of rampant scientific illiteracy, I do think, however, that they can totally screw up the explanation of why we will not be punished and make it sound like "we (the NFL) don't know exactly what happened" as opposed to "it is not possible that anything did happen".

Thus brain-dead journalists would sum up the whole thing as "inconclusive, so we are letting them off" rather than "exonerated" in that case.

I HOPE they do a good job in a DETAILED explanation and apology, so that even MORONS come to understand the basics of what happened.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

I cannot fathom how they can screw us. The core central allegation of tampering with footballs by removing air is completely unsupportable. They would have to simply deny the reality of PV=nRT.

Because of rampant scientific illiteracy, I do think, however, that they can totally screw up the explanation of why we will not be punished and make it sound like "we (the NFL) don't know exactly what happened" as opposed to "it is not possible that anything did happen".

Thus brain-dead journalists would sum up the whole thing as "inconclusive, so we are letting them off" rather than "exonerated" in that case.

I HOPE they do a good job in a DETAILED explanation and apology, so that even MORONS come to understand the basics of what happened.

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Right with you until the bold part.
I'm hopelessly stuck in 2007 when Kraft let Goodell explain NADA about what specifically the Pats were punished for. Even professional sports media people to this day keep saying it was for filming walk-throughs & practices. I hope that the 2015 Bobby K learned from that major mistake and leaves no stone unturned placing pressure for a clear, detailed coherent league statement. I know. I'm asking too much.

I'm not looking for an apology from the league who made no official disparaging statements but the league criticizing the media for jumping to unwarranted, un-factual conclusions would be great.

On 2nd thought IF it turns out that there were league front office shenanigans then an apology for rogue FORMER employee behavior would be in order.

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This is why we have to pound home on twitter etc... That Aaron Rodgers admitted he sends in balls over the PSI limits so they get through the refs.

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I don't see the relevance of Rodgers admissions. There is no reason to think the Pats manipulated the balls improperly in any way. An argument that others do or have done seems to admit that the Pats did something too, which they didn't.

VectorPrime said:

The investigation should be limited to information that directly pertains to the accusation of deflated footballs.

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"Should" from whose point of view though? Most people interpret "should" to mean "what benefits themselves". It's in nearly everyone else's interest - NFL management, other team owners, the law firm, the media - for the investigation to be as long and complex as possible and for it to find something disparaging.

By the way, these kinds of open ended investigations generally expand their ambit almost without limit, like in the "The Drumhead". But the most famous example is probably the Bill Clinton investigation, when an investigation over a failed land deal in Arkansas morphed into an impeachment proceeding.