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One final note: stats related. I don't even recall Revis's sack.

it was fairly early, Wilson rolled out to the left and Revis flew up to swipe him down for a two-yard loss.
 
I also want to point our that Harmon never played the ball/whistle and jumped over Kearse while he was playing bouncy football with his legs. This will be an excellent teaching point for BB next training camp.

My one thought about Harmon jumping over Kearse is that if he'd hit him after Kearse had dropped it, they might have flagged him for unnecessary roughness - which would have been a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down.

So I can't really criticise Harmon, since he probably did the intelligent thing - it was just crazy that Kearse managed to catch the bouncing ball on the floor.
 
Another thing we should remember was that Stat I used on several occasions in the run up to the game. The one where the Seattle defense has allowed only 13 points in the last 8 quarters at the end of the season and playoffs. Well against that defense, Brady went 13-15 and put up 14 points in just the last 10 minutes of the game.

BTW For the 9th consecutive fourth quarter the Pats defense kept the opposition out of the endzone and allowed a mere 12 points over those 9 quarters.

BTW-2 Just a thought. Wouldn't it be sweet revenge is no mediot EVER asks Marshawn Lynch how he feels about not getting the ball in that situation. :D
 
My one thought about Harmon jumping over Kearse is that if he'd hit him after Kearse had dropped it, they might have flagged him for unnecessary roughness - which would have been a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down.

So I can't really criticise Harmon, since he probably did the intelligent thing - it was just crazy that Kearse managed to catch the bouncing ball on the floor.
Wouldnt a 15 yard penalty been better if he were able to dislodge the ball ? Just a tough call.
 
My one thought about Harmon jumping over Kearse is that if he'd hit him after Kearse had dropped it, they might have flagged him for unnecessary roughness - which would have been a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down.

So I can't really criticise Harmon, since he probably did the intelligent thing - it was just crazy that Kearse managed to catch the bouncing ball on the floor.
He didn't have to tackle Harmon (thought that may be possible or a penalty -- probably ref discretion thought it would have only been a 15 yard penalty and not a spot foul) But, he could have gone for the ball. Play to the whistle.
 
Can I give myself a gratuitous pat on the back? From the pregame thread...

I'm getting a decided 2004 Pitt feel from this Seattle squad right down to the "we do what we do!" defense

What concerns me the most about this isn't that NE is allowing teams to average two TDs in the first half, it is how teams have scored. GB had only scored a reasonable 16 points before the ridiculous TD when all they were looking for was to get into FG range. Miami was on 6 prior to the awful last minute. NE's D had settled down and were looking at a 20 minute shut out of Baltimore prior to Tom's pick. Indy was likely going to go scoreless if not for another dumb interception late in the second.

If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to make a prediction, it would probably be something similar to the 2003 SB. Both defenses start out hot and validate all those who said it would be a low scoring game only for things to take off from there. Like that game, I think it will be very close and could go either way. Seattle is a terrific team and, like the 2012 AFCCG, I think I could handle a loss where NE was legitimately outplayed.

My somewhat analytic, somewhat wishful thinking projection? 31-27, Pats.
 
What goes around, comes around.. payback is a bytch.

Shared that "Oh ****" moment when he made that improbable catch also, while eyeing the clock.. I thought they should have let Lynch score on their first down as it would give Brady more time for a a comeback, that is why I do not coach in the NFL..

Immediately after the Int by Butler, was concerned about field position, as there was no room for a kneel down(the phone was ringing with fans yelling, I was telling people not yet).. but Brady's "triple head bob" drew them offsides and the rest was history.. that is really underplayed as to how well coached this team is and how great #12 is.. We will be told in the next couple of days that they practice that... not at all surprised.
Was I alone thinking, "not again" when that miracle catch happened. I was thinking Tyree and Manningham then I had to learn the name of that guy.
 
When Kearse caught that ball I couldn't believe that didn't hit the ground. Then the sinking OMG not again. I cannot believe we are going to lose on a fluke again. I was screaming at the TV for Bill to call a timeout and was surprised he didn't. And then I must have screamed Malcolm F'In Bulter!!!!!! at least ten times.

If the media wants to beat up Carroll and company for the play call so be it but Butler's great play should never get lost. Even Marshall Faulk said let's not lose sight on the fact that the kid made a play for the ages.

Think about this......Dallas wins on a controversial non-call that puts Detroit out. Dallas loses to GB on a rule that needs to be changed. GB chokes up a hair ball on a series of wow moments and loses to Seattle. The Patriots barely survive yet another freak play while Seattle throws a pick on a play that will be second guessed for eternity. Winning is just so difficult. The fact that the Pats have put themselves in a position every single year minus 02, 08 and 09 (ya they were in the playoffs but please) is amazing. What a run.

Screw Richard Sherman. That was classless and selfish mocking Revis with the 24 hand signals. Revis to his credit side stepped it in the post game and gave it up to his teammates saying we are world champions and the best secondary in the NFL.

Screw Bruce Irvin for being a sore loser.

Praise for Michael Bennett. Yes he was in the middle of the scuffle but his emotions got the best of him. He went over and congratulated both at least BB, Brady and Revis that I saw. I have no issues.

Malcolm F'in Butler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Can I give myself a gratuitous pat on the back? From the pregame thread...

No. 2014 prediction season is over. Only the players and coaches get credit today (unless you predicted a recurrence of the David Tyree catch and then redemption for Asante Samuel in the end zone). :p
 
My last post notwithstanding, kudos to Ken for identifying the spread them out short-pass game plan in one of his pregame threads. Thanks for sharing your Idle Thoughts this year.
 
13. Can’t help but mention the officials. OK they weren’t sent by Goodell to screw us……but they didn’t help either. Up until the last 12 seconds of the game when the Seahawks got about 4 penalties and 30 yds, the Seahawks definitely got a slight edge in the calls. Mostly in the way of non-calls. They missed the roughing the punter call early that would have been big when it should have been an easy call. There was a period in the 2nd and 3rd quarters where they missed a lot of holding calls on the Seahawks. I though a couple have been called, since they were that blatant. Still in the end, they pretty much stayed out of the game, and it was better for it. They did us no favors, but wouldn’t have been the reason for a loss, had it happened.

But...the 'Hawks got called for exactly two penalties for 20 yards in the last 30 seconds. That melee at the end seems to be getting no press but it showed the 'Hawk's true colors...and I'm surprised more players didn't get ejected.

There was also a clear pushoff by a 'Hawks player on one of their TD's.
 
If the media wants to beat up Carroll and company for the play call so be it but Butler's great play should never get lost. Even Marshall Faulk said let's not lose sight on the fact that the kid made a play for the ages.

I don't know why people are blaming Carroll for the playcall. Couldn't Wilson have audibled out of it? Why isn't he sharing some of the blame there?
 
One thing I want to know: when Sherman was doing the 2-4, was he taunting Revis or counting their points.

My guess is...both.

But I hope I'm wrong. I hope it was just the points. The guy has all-world talent. He's too good and too smart to be that much of a punk.

Or is he?
 
But...the 'Hawks got called for exactly two penalties for 20 yards in the last 30 seconds. That melee at the end seems to be getting no press but it showed the 'Hawk's true colors...and I'm surprised more players didn't get ejected.

There was also a clear pushoff by a 'Hawks player on one of their TD's.
You are right. Baldwin clearly pushed off Revis right in front of the ref, and then to add insult to the injury, used the same ref as a pick to get wide open
 
One thing I want to know: when Sherman was doing the 2-4, was he taunting Revis or counting their points.

My guess is...both.

But I hope I'm wrong. I hope it was just the points. The guy has all-world talent. He's too good and too smart to be that much of a punk.

Or is he?
No, it was a straight out diss on Revis. He was mocking the fact that he got a TD thrown on him. I guess he failed to notice the 4 TD passes, 37 receptions and 330 yds the so called legion of doom had dropped on them
 
I don't know why people are blaming Carroll for the playcall. Couldn't Wilson have audibled out of it? Why isn't he sharing some of the blame there?

Carroll simply fell on the grenade for his OC, Bevell's choice of call. I also don't think Bevell is to be blamed either, because when the entire world is expecting you to do one thing, you as an OC, are naturally going to instinctively not give them that. I also wouldn't blame Wilson; that throw was on the money.

I think a lot of credit should go to BB for practicing that specific scenario. In fact, eerily enough, that same play was done in practice earlier in the week and Butler was beat for the TD (Boyce). So when he saw the same alignment, the same double stacked receivers, he knew exactly what was coming.
 
That for me was the sweetest super bowl win. So much so that I smile and feel a sense of calm for every media or fan hated comment out there. I simply don't care.
I watched the game on my own (muted volume) and I developed a routine of pausing and watching plays in slow motion then fast forwarding or rewinding at my discretion. I got behind in the live play to the point in the first half that I didn't even need to watch halftime. It was perfect.

This is the toughest Patriot team ever. At halftime I was dejected. They should have had a comfortable lead and then that 3rd quarter was the continuation of the momentum shift at half. How could they come back? Again? Michael Bennett had taken the game over. But still, it was only 10 points with a lot of time left.

Then Tom takes over and delivers along with a heroic effort by Edelman and big plays by Gronk, Vereen and Lafell.
I had my doubts but part of me just thought, if any team has the stones to come back its this one.
I don't need media recognition but it was a pleasure watching and hearing the haters and judges squirm and look dejected in their post game analysis.
The Patriots as usual handled the post game interviews with grace and humility, particularly Brady.

I've been a fan of the Patriots since 1975 and this was the best season ever.

Thank you Patriots and thanks to all of my fellow patsfans board members that allow me to share in this amazing journey and celebration.
 
Do you realize that had the Pats held Seattle to "merely" a 10 yd gain, Seattle would have run the clock out. So instead of a 17-7 lead going into the half, the game is tied and Seattle gets the ball to open the half

I said the same thing to my family. If the RB was just held to 9 yards - as he should have been, it was an obvious play call - they probably don't even get into FG range. Just a brutal stretch. Seahawk fans will rightfully feel like they gave one away, but the truth is that they should never have had a lead in the first place as much as NE outplayed them for the first 30 minutes. I'll bet VOA, when it comes out, will have NE as ~15% better

At this point I truly think they felt they had bullied another team into submission.

Agreed. For all the talk of playing 60 minutes, they never actually had to. GB rolled over and every other team had given up early in the fourth, if not sooner. Seattle wasn't prepared for NE's mental toughness.

In truth SEA had kinda gotten lucky hitting several high risk plays in high leverage situations.

Absolutely. It worked, and that's a credit to them, but NE was significantly more consistent. If the two teams played indefinitely, NE would likely hit about the same total whereas that would likely Seattle's top limit. There'd be outliers, of course, but I'm talking about the top level that would be regularly reached.

To take it one step further, even Vereen had 11 catches too.

I wouldn't even put Shane into the "one step further", he was every bit as critical as any other receiver not named Edelman. I doubt we'll hear about his hands any time soon. :)

Immediately after the Int by Butler, was concerned about field position, as there was no room for a kneel down(the phone was ringing with fans yelling, I was telling people not yet).. but Brady's "triple head bob" drew them offsides and the rest was history.. that is really underplayed as to how well coached this team is and how great #12 is.

Absolutely. Everyone is my house was going crazy, but I was still very nervous about getting two kneels in without getting pushed back for a safety. The Patriots just schooled them there - and why not? How much further back can you go if you get called for drawing them offside? After that, it was a done deal and the Seahawks knew it, which is why they threw the equivalent of a temper tantrum. Seeing them act like cheap SOBs was immensely satisfying.

He talked about patience, practice and hard work. Edelman said the same things. They all KNEW they could do this, and they had faith in each other, and in themselves.

Browner didn't come out and say it, but he strongly insinuated that NE had practiced that precise situation (GL, pick route) which is why they were so prepared for it.

One final note: stats related. I don't even recall Revis's sack.

It was a long Wilson scramble that never went beyond the LOS ending when Revis took out his legs by the left sideline.

He didn't have to tackle Harmon (thought that may be possible or a penalty -- probably ref discretion thought it would have only been a 15 yard penalty and not a spot foul) But, he could have gone for the ball. Play to the whistle.

Yup. He took great pains to avoid contact when all Duron had to do was to swipe at the ball and knock it out of play. He could have even gotten a pick if he was lucky enough.

Great game. The better team won.
 
I don't know why people are blaming Carroll for the playcall. Couldn't Wilson have audibled out of it? Why isn't he sharing some of the blame there?

Carroll took responsibility for the call. But it looked pretty clear to me that it was a passing play. At the party I was at, many of us were questioning what they were doing before the snap because an incomplete pass helped the Pats if he didn't connect with the pass.
 
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