Chris Kluwe: "The real 'Deflategate' Scandal is that anyone cares"

Bobsyouruncle said:

Which part do you agree with? This one-

"Grown men (presumably) are earnestly debating what punishments should be levied on a team that tried to eke out a miniscule advantage over an opponent"

Yup, they definitely cheated, it's just not a big deal. That's his take.

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Thank you for that hilarity.

"team that tried to eke out a miniscule advantage over an opponent" = "definitely cheated"

To paraphrase Brady: "Ha ha, I've just about seen it all now".

shmessy said:

I agree.

I don't think Bobsyouruncle understood one damn thing about that column by Kluwe. It sounded like he had something against Kluwe to begin with. That was epic.

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At least I have epic going for me, even if it is epically wrong.

Bobsyouruncle said:

I didn't miss his point. I got it, and he built it off from a pillar that starts with the Patriots cheating. He then moves into how it's not a big deal because of more important things. Got it, I knew there were more important things, so did the rest of the world, we didn't need Kluwe to tell us that.

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Next Bobsyouruncle will translate Kraft's speech Sunday night to the fans as "Allahu akbar, death to the Western Satanists!!!!"

shmessy said:

Thank you for that hilarity.

"team that tried to eke out a miniscule advantage over an opponent" = "definitely cheated"

To paraphrase Brady: "Ha ha, I've just about seen it all now".

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There's no way that statement could be interpreted to mean anything but the Patriots intentionally manipulated balls to gain a perceived advantage.

Which would be cheating. I'll concede I was too harsh, I'm not conceding words don't have meanings. It was not the focus of his article, and maybe he doesn't know or care to get into the finer points. Regardless, he said it.

shmessy said:

Next Bobsyouruncle will translate Kraft's speech Sunday night to the fans as "Allahu akbar, death to the Western Satanists!!!!"

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Funny, but Bob has conceded the point, so it is probably time to stop kicking and help him get up off the floor.

Oswlek said:

Funny, but Bob has conceded the point, so it is probably time to stop kicking and help him get up off the floor.

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And send him to a course in remedial reading and comprehension.

It's articles like this that keep me hanging from on to the Superbowl thrills. It's been a very downer week. The hate that people spew over a softer football. The miniscule difference from the fully inflated ball to a lesser inflated ball. Most of these pundits pounding on there football Bible. Condemning the whole organization with no facts whatsoever. These people are dead to me. I will never have any respect for any of these people who tried to bring us down before they knew any of the real facts. They talk about integrity of the game? How about integrity of journalism? That is the real crime here. And then people wonder why Belichick treats the media with such disdain. The media will dissect every word you have to find a slip up and nail you to the cross. EDIT; WOW, I had to go back and correct most of this post after reading it on my tablet. After re-reading it, you people must've though I was a nut job.. Damn cell phone

shmessy said:

I agree.

I don't think Bobsyouruncle understood one damn thing about that column by Kluwe. It sounded like he had something against Kluwe to begin with. That was epic.

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Or maybe he watched the video? The video doesn`t paint the Patriots in a very positive light.

Bobsyouruncle said:

Fair enough, maybe I'm too harsh. This is one of several articles I've seen on a similar subject now and I guess I'm seeing the backpedal as a bit convenient. But you're right, Kluwe probably isn't trying to do much but make his point about concussions and what-not.

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I grant you that each person reads an article and takes different things away from it. You have your take and that's true with us all. With that said I just don't see a clear path to your take on it. While Kluwe does stray far into the human/social ramifications of the NFL, the last concluding sentence is what I believe the main point he is making (and what the social commentary was building up to): "The NFL has plenty of scandals. This is not one of them.". Is that statement not true?

I just don't see how any thoughtful person (not directed at you Bob) can disagree with that sentence/point. This "scandal" is theater of the surreal. And while the Borges and the Globes and the ESPN's of the world could care less about right, wrong, proportion, any of that, seeing Aikman and others who play the game making statements as they are is disgusting. Thankfully others, they are the silent vast majority at this point IMHO, Kluwe, Tarkenton, McNabb, Leinart, Luck etc etc etc have all said, basically, "This is a scandal? You're kidding me?".

I would say again that if TB directed the ballboy (unlikely to be the case IMHO) to let air out after the refs checked them, a fine is probably in order. A fine that is equivalent to driving 70 in a 55, maybe a bit more. Unfortunately the NFL, as Kluwe mentioned, and the massive dumbness that exists in our society and their selective outrage susceptibility have set this insignificant event on the road to having great great importance. That is a sad commentary...

SoxPatsFaninIndy said:

http://time.com/3679079/patriots-under-inflated-balls-deflategate-nfl-scandal/

Wow, this is pretty damn amazing.

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That rant should have ended with "crrmphwheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" to indicate Kluwee dropping the mic (the end of the suggested word was the feedback).

Chris Kluwe is the most articulate ranting ex-jock evah. Sure his perspective may be that the whole sport is doomed but he's damned good at fleshing out the case.

I have no interest in soliciting the opinion of Chris Kluge.

Kluwe has been an ******* for years and all of a sudden, he writes something that may favor the Patriots and people want to stick up for him? No thanks.

Bobsyouruncle said:

Which part do you agree with? This one-

"Grown men (presumably) are earnestly debating what punishments should be levied on a team that tried to eke out a miniscule advantage over an opponent"

Yup, they definitely cheated, it's just not a big deal. That's his take.

If you think this diversion into political diatribes is profound then I have to disagree. It sounds like something an 8th grader would ramble while passing the J to the left. Whats next, can we hear about how there wouldn't be war if everyone just loved each other.

It's a diversion, but not from the NFL's office of bafoons. Kluwe wants to divert attention to his pet political cause, and he wants to do so by offering up some middle ground that doesn't exist. If you happen to agree with the sentiment that we should focus on bigger issues than those cheatriots then that's fine. But it does nothing to change the fact that he has no evidence they cheated to begin with. His silly point could have been made with a thousand different examples- real examples.

It's pretty convenient that now that the medias entire witch hunt hasn't turned up a lick of evidence he wants to extend an invitation to break bread and focus on more important things. Focus on, well anything but the jackassery We've seen.

I don't need him to tell me balls aren't important, I already knew that. I need him tell journalists that slinging mud with no evidence is malicious. And he can start by checking his own story.

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Try decaf.