Lombardi believes Pats will trade Garoppolo to the Browns

[Deus Irae]

If this is true, we all have to ask the burning question:


What the hell did JAG do to BB in order to be punished like this?

 

[1960Pats]

Not saying that the Pats should do it, but what if the Pats decided to trade Brady instead of JG. What could they get for him?

So tell me @AndyJohnson and @Boomer B, how the heck can you disagree with a question? There's no statement being made to disagree with.

 

[1960Pats]

Shut your mouth. No go wash it out with soap. 2nd thought, you didntcsay that , you typed it. Ok go scrub your fingertips with coarse sandpaper and lye. Then hold them over a flame. And may god have mercy on your soul

Don't be scared. The mean question can't hurt you.

 

[1960Pats]

After this season? An angry fan base. And if I'm reading the cap numbers correctly- a busted salary cap. Not a great combination.

I wasn't actually looking to part with Brady. I was wondering if he had any value as opposed to JG. Thanks for some clarification.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I'm not sure I'd want to be on the hook for the 1st overall salary. That's pricey for a rookie who isn't proven at the position. The Browns second 1st rounder, however, is quite tempting. Sign me up. We could grab Vea (if he declares), or have our pick of a top tier player at essentially any position.

 

[aluminum seats]

I'm not sure I'd want to be on the hook for the 1st overall salary. That's pricey for a rookie who isn't proven at the position. The Browns second 1st rounder, however, is quite tempting. Sign me up. We could grab Vea (if he declares), or have our pick of a top tier player at essentially any position.

Number one pick isn't as pricey as it used to be, and it can be traded.

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm not sure I'd want to be on the hook for the 1st overall salary. That's pricey for a rookie who isn't proven at the position. The Browns second 1st rounder, however, is quite tempting. Sign me up. We could grab Vea (if he declares), or have our pick of a top tier player at essentially any position.

BB will trade down 88 times, and he'll lock down the 2020 7th round, while still keeping a 2nd round pick to draft a freak athlete who has the football instincts of a pumice stone. By 2021, the Patriots will have the best ST-only corps in NFL history.

 

[sportnik]

Pure speculation but if Jimmy G is the next Tom Brady and Myles Garrett is the next Von Miller and Brady can play another 2-3 seasons then offering the #1 overall for JGmakes sense for both parties, doesn't it?

If JG is even close to being the next Brady, you retain JG at all costs. Given the relative ages, I'd be very surprised if BB trades JG, unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of. JG has shown that he can excel in this system & if the Pats hold onto him, we have another 10 year window.

This is a QB driven league. If JG is traded, realistically we have a 2 year window to win a Championship & then we rebuild, like everyone else. I don't see BB letting that happen.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I'm not sure I'd want to be on the hook for the 1st overall salary. That's pricey for a rookie who isn't proven at the position. The Browns second 1st rounder, however, is quite tempting. Sign me up. We could grab Vea (if he declares), or have our pick of a top tier player at essentially any position.

With the new rookie scale, the #1 overall pick gets about $25M over four years.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

If JG is even close to being the next Brady, you retain JG at all costs. Given the relative ages, I'd be very surprised if BB trades JG, unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of. JG has shown that he can excel in this system & if the Pats hold onto him, we have another 10 year window.

This is a QB driven league. If JG is traded, realistically we have a 2 year window to win a Championship & then we rebuild, like everyone else. I don't see BB letting that happen.

The counter argument to that is, if Garrett is the next Von Miller, we can build a defense around him that could carry an older Tom Brady a few more seasons.

I'm not an NFL scout and I don't work with or know these players personally so I'm just speculating.

 

[Flash]

I've said it before, but I can totally see one of the Browns, Bears and 49ers trade their first pick for Garropolo, and it's not totally impossible. Look at the QBs in this draft, Mitch Trubisky, DeShone Kizer, Deshaun Watson...it is so much more likely that Garropolo will be better than all of these QB prospects (are these guys even better than Goff?).

If Sam Bradford, the most average QB in the NFL right now, netted a first round pick from the Vikings, surely one of these three QB-desperate teams will trade their first for Garropolo, who is younger than Bradford and played pretty damn well despite limited playing time.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

If JG is even close to being the next Brady, you retain JG at all costs. Given the relative ages, I'd be very surprised if BB trades JG, unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of. JG has shown that he can excel in this system & if the Pats hold onto him, we have another 10 year window.

This is a QB driven league. If JG is traded, realistically we have a 2 year window to win a Championship & then we rebuild, like everyone else. I don't see BB letting that happen.

Brady is playing at his best level in years.....he is not being cut in favor of a (relatively) untested prospect like Jimmy G.

I like the kid a lot, but after what we've seen from TB12, there's nothing to indicate that Brady will be declining anytime soon. The GOAT still has a lot of fuel in the tank!

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

I've said it before, but I can totally see one of the Browns, Bears and 49ers trade their first pick for Garropolo, and it's not totally impossible. Look at the QBs in this draft, Mitch Trubisky, DeShone Kizer, Deshaun Watson...it is so much more likely that Garropolo will be better than all of these QB prospects (are these guys even better than Goff?).

If Sam Bradford, the most average QB in the NFL right now, netted a first round pick from the Vikings, surely one of these three QB-desperate teams will trade their first for Garropolo, who is younger than Bradford and played pretty damn well despite limited playing time.

Unfortunately you will have some idiot teams trade for that pile of garbage in chicago. I hope the jests are that team lol. I bet marshall's in the jests management's ears.

 

[Tony2046]

Hate to see him go but, if they're offering the #1 pick, it would be hard to say no. Myles Garrett would look really good in a Patriots uniform and gives us the pass rush we've been longing for for all these years.

That dude looks like a beast. I guess one can dream.

 

[sb1]

I wasn't actually looking to part with Brady. I was wondering if he had any value as opposed to JG. Thanks for some clarification.

Didn't say you were but it's not realistic IMO. Whatever value he would have wouldn't offset a devastating cap hit. If the move is made this winter I believe dead money would be approaching $50M unless his new team would agree to a new deal with him and I doubt Tom would be so accommodating.

For arguments sake say that doesn't matter. There's a lot of factors that go into answering your question including which team he is going to. Is it a win now team looking for a QB? What system are they running? What pieces are in place? Are they a young team looking for leadership? Obviously teams that need Tom would be willing to pay a lot more than teams who don't. And he's also 39 years old so that rules out up and coming teams who are looking for a long term answer at QB.

If I were to guess...I'd say it's most likely they could get at least the compensation the Pats got for Bledsoe, a conditional 1st.

 

[aluminum seats]

I think it's funny how some hold the "only played six quarters" thing against JG, as if first round picks aren't spent on quarterbacks who haven't played a single snap in the NFL all the time.

With rare exceptions-- like the Super Bowl winner last year-- teams need top quarterbacks to compete for championships. Whether the Pats keep JG, or if they trade him what they get for him, depends on the individuals who are making the decision and what they think he will be. All speculation beyond that isn't worth much.

 

[A man named Brady]

If you can get a first?

See ya jimmy. Brady is going to be the qb the next 2 seasons. We have holes on defense that need to be filled

 

[juny]

If Bradford gets a first and fourth then jimmy needs to be traded for at least that

 

[sb1]

I think it's funny how some hold the "only played six quarters" thing against JG, as if first round picks aren't spent on quarterbacks who haven't played a single snap in the NFL all the time.

The difference is JG isn't a fresh rookie he has been in the Patriots system - everything he knows about being an NFL QB is based on the system here...and he is at least 3 years older than most QBs who are taken in the first round. So if you have Jimmy sit and learn for some time with his new team you are losing even more prime years vs a guy you groomed on your own.

Cassell at least had a full season of work. He got a 2nd rounder. Jimmy has 6 quarters and that's it. It will definitely be a factor in his percieved value IMO. Maybe if the Pats wrap up the first seed early they can showcase JG against Miami in week 17.

 

[Ring 6]

So tell me @AndyJohnson and @Boomer B, how the heck can you disagree with a question? There's no statement being made to disagree with.

I disagree with even bringing up the topic. It's crazy.