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Weird they thought Amaro was like that. ASJ looks more like that. Amaro was bigger and I think faster, but he couldn't catch and he was, well, uncoordinated. He used to bumble over himself out there. Fast in a straight line, actually very fast, but a goon just the same. Can't think of many players who have good athletic ability but little coordination. It's uncommon.
He struggled last year when team went to pads and again this year. He can run good routes but his hands have been suspect and he has committed penalties and fumbled. If he was even close to good the Bucs would've kept him. Like i said, they're desperate for a 3, 4, and 5 WR. Every WR on our team is better than him. I'd resign Nate Washington before him.

Bucs GM has actually built a pretty solid team, so I think your criticism is unwarranted. Aguayo is the most accurate kicker in college football history and the position was of great need for them. They easily win 2-3 more games last year with a good kicker. No reason to expect the kid to not be consistent in the pros when he was so accurate and good in college. His game is all mental i think. I saw little issue with the Bucs drafting him in the 2nd round. Aguayo is believed to be a franchise kicker and someone who could make an impact and help win games for the next decade. He was the safest pick with highest chance of an impact imo.


Im sorry, the only thing the TB's GM is doing, is picking the no-brainer picks. Winston... Mike Evans (should've taken OBJ) and Hargreaves (who he was lucky to get because NYG took Eli Apple like idiots)
Other then that, a good portion of his picks from his time in TB are no longer with the team. Theres another team in FL that is leading the way on how to rebuild a team.

Im sorry, but your reason for drafting him in the second is invalid. A quick look at the kicking records will prove so. Until Aguayo broke the record for "most accurate kicker in college football history" ( which is incorrect, he is only the most accurate kicker for extra points in NCAA history)

A player by the name of Alex Heaery had the record for just 5 years.

Henry a 4 year player from 2007 - 2010, was an unbelievable kicker during his time at Nebraska.

Truth is, Henery has better stats in college then Aguayo did. Aguayo missed 5 kicks out of his 26 kicks last year. he missed 20 % of the time.
Alex Henerys stats
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Aguayo Stats

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Lets not forget, Henrey could also punt.....

Back to Henery. He was drafted in the 4th round by the Eagles, and now 5 years later, he's teaching kindergarten kids in his home town,

The Philadelphia Eagles chose Henery in the fourth round of the 2011 NFL Draft with the 120th overall pick. He began the season as the Eagles' starting placekicker, and set a new NFL record for field goal accuracy by a rookie kicker. In Week 16, he kicked a career-best 51-yard field goal in a 20−7 win over the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium.
In his second year with the Eagles, he set a franchise record by making 18 consecutive field goals, and went on to extend the record to 22 (then-longest active streak in the league), before just missing a 58-yard field goal in Week 14 against Tampa Bay.
In his 3rd year, he fell flat on his face. Lost his confidence, and one year later in 2014, Henery lost the starting placekicker position and was released by the Eagles.
No injuries. Nothing bad, Just fell off.

Another recent kicker with great stats is from BC
Nate Freese.
In all honesty he has very similar states and was taken in the 7th round of the 2014 draft.
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First things first, college kicking records don't translate to success in the NFL (that applies to many positions)

Second and more importantly, nothing in the world can rationalize picking Aguayo in the 2nd round. NOTHING, especially trading up to do so. Kickers are far from locks, and are generally drafted later because so.
Your top draft picks are supposed to be used to bring in top talent on cheap rookie contracts, which in return helps you win championships. The second round is still the bread and butter of building a team with elite talent on rookie contracts. Guys like Allen Robbison. In free agency, you can bring in a top level kicker for 1/3 of the price of a solid #2 wr, or 5x of the price as a true #1 WR, DB, DE, ETC ETC.

Haha. Trying to justify the kicker was just funny. Have fun watching the bucs.
 
The Patriots worked out free agent RB David Cobb on Friday
Yates
 
Interesting
Sankey deserves a workout as well
And Id call the Skins and cowboys about back
 
It would not be surprising if Cobb got cut. Or it could wind up on the PS.
 
He was a very good poster. Much like you, I hope that he returns at some point.

And you Supa. Unfortunately I had a bit of a falling out with him just before he left too, over Byron Jones.
 
And you Supa. Unfortunately I had a bit of a falling out with him just before he left too, over Byron Jones.
You are banging the tables for Bell.
If Belichick picks him up the entire forum will buy you a beer.

Still wouldn't be enough for my ass, with 1 day off in the past 50 days, I need a fanbase the size of the cowgirls to fulfill my beer needs. lol
 
And you Supa. Unfortunately I had a bit of a falling out with him just before he left too, over Byron Jones.
Hmmm, interesting.

At least your disagreement makes a bit of sense, as correct as you've been thus far regarding Byron Jones.

@Off The Grid, on the other hand? That one seems a bit more complicated. He's fairly laid back and straight forward.

What could they have possibly disagreed about? Storylines of Star Wars? How to properly skin a buffalo? Who can make the best homemade gunpowder? Whether or not there's a supreme leader overseeing the people of Earth? The proper nomenclature used to describe the place kicker? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
 
About him not doing anything more then an average job at being a GM, or Winston being the No brainer pick for him to make?

I quoted the appropriate part for my question. To say that Winston was a no brainer is ludicrous.
 
It was considered an upset that BB didn't draft this guy. There was a lot of pre-draft contact between Reynolds and the Patriots.
 
This will be interesting to monitor.

#Ravens are planning to waive former #Navy WR Keenan Reynolds, source said. Devin Hester’s workout today signaled this one pretty loudly.
 
Im sorry, the only thing the TB's GM is doing, is picking the no-brainer picks. Winston... Mike Evans (should've taken OBJ) and Hargreaves (who he was lucky to get because NYG took Eli Apple like idiots)
Other then that, a good portion of his picks from his time in TB are no longer with the team. Theres another team in FL that is leading the way on how to rebuild a team.

Im sorry, but your reason for drafting him in the second is invalid. A quick look at the kicking records will prove so. Until Aguayo broke the record for "most accurate kicker in college football history" ( which is incorrect, he is only the most accurate kicker for extra points in NCAA history)

A player by the name of Alex Heaery had the record for just 5 years.

Henry a 4 year player from 2007 - 2010, was an unbelievable kicker during his time at Nebraska.

Truth is, Henery has better stats in college then Aguayo did. Aguayo missed 5 kicks out of his 26 kicks last year. he missed 20 % of the time.
Alex Henerys stats
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Aguayo Stats

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Lets not forget, Henrey could also punt.....

Back to Henery. He was drafted in the 4th round by the Eagles, and now 5 years later, he's teaching kindergarten kids in his home town,

The Philadelphia Eagles chose Henery in the fourth round of the 2011 NFL Draft with the 120th overall pick. He began the season as the Eagles' starting placekicker, and set a new NFL record for field goal accuracy by a rookie kicker. In Week 16, he kicked a career-best 51-yard field goal in a 20−7 win over the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium.
In his second year with the Eagles, he set a franchise record by making 18 consecutive field goals, and went on to extend the record to 22 (then-longest active streak in the league), before just missing a 58-yard field goal in Week 14 against Tampa Bay.
In his 3rd year, he fell flat on his face. Lost his confidence, and one year later in 2014, Henery lost the starting placekicker position and was released by the Eagles.
No injuries. Nothing bad, Just fell off.

Another recent kicker with great stats is from BC
Nate Freese.
In all honesty he has very similar states and was taken in the 7th round of the 2014 draft.
View attachment 13934

First things first, college kicking records don't translate to success in the NFL (that applies to many positions)

Second and more importantly, nothing in the world can rationalize picking Aguayo in the 2nd round. NOTHING, especially trading up to do so. Kickers are far from locks, and are generally drafted later because so.
Your top draft picks are supposed to be used to bring in top talent on cheap rookie contracts, which in return helps you win championships. The second round is still the bread and butter of building a team with elite talent on rookie contracts. Guys like Allen Robbison. In free agency, you can bring in a top level kicker for 1/3 of the price of a solid #2 wr, or 5x of the price as a true #1 WR, DB, DE, ETC ETC.

Haha. Trying to justify the kicker was just funny. Have fun watching the bucs.

"Aguayo, who left Florida State as the most accurate kicker in college football history with a with a .9673 conversion rate (267-of-276) surpassing the previous record of .9667 set by Nebraska’s Alex Henery."

You wrote all that **** and are still wrong lol.

Me trying to justify one of the best college kickers of all time is funny, yet here you are slobbering all over a JAG receiver who couldn't hang on a team desperate for 3 WR's... Bell sucks and will continue to suck until he's out of the league.
 
250lb linebacker Tyler Starr, he of the 6.64 3-cone, has been waived by the Atlanta Falcons.
 
(trying to think of a snarky way to compare that to Aaron Dobson and failing....) :)

I'm right in thinking that if they claim him he'd have to be on the 53 for 5 weeks yes? I suppose the Nink suspension might help facilitate that with Reynolds or anyone else they claim that they don't believe will be productive early.
 
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