Patriots Release Dominique Easley

[supafly]

Genuine question - in light of the Florida problems should we think differently about THE Ohio State players coming into the league going forward?

Sorry for the double response, but the more I thought about your question, the more I think there are lots of variables aside from "just" Urban Meyer.

Florida is a good time atmosphere. The weather is warm. The girls are pretty. Everyone is in fairly good spirits, etc. I'm pretty sure it has a bit of a reputation, no offense to any alums or fans out there. Hell, just about everyone I've ever met from the south has a bit of a laid back attitude. When I lived in FL there was a saying, "you're on FL time, now." Nothing got done on time. The locals would talk of how everything was rush, rush, rush up north.

Which brings me to my point: Is it an Urban Meyer thing, or a University of Florida thing? Did Urban have issues with players while he was out west in Utah? Not that I remember. How about when he was the head coach at Bowling Green? Not that I can remember. Until we start to see some of the current Buckeye class getting into trouble and making poor choices, I'm going to assume that it's more FL than it is Urban Meyer, although he will take more chances with talented recruits than the average coach, it seems.

EDIT: I see @VectorPrime shares my skepticism, as well.

 

[1960Pats]

Thanks Dabruinz, i didnt have the energy to respond to that bogus crap. You said what i wouldve said.

If you're feeling froggy, jump.

 

[1960Pats]

Fixed it for you.

All you have to do is look at what happened when Brady went down in the first quarter of the first game of the 2008 season, and how Matt Cassel's career trajectory went after he left the Patriots and Coach Belichick. QED.

Why stop there?

Belichick's record without Brady (including Pats games);
52-62 (1-1 playoffs)
Belichick's record with Tom Brady at QB;
171-51 (22-9 playoffs)

Fix THAT.

 

[AzorianPats]

It wasn't until he came to OSU that I even noticed how much he pilfered rival recruits from outside areas. I don't know how he does it, but the dude is really good at bringing in top notch, 5 star national level talent.

So for me, if you're following Meyer's teams and potential NFL players, you're probably going to find slightly more top notch 5 star recruits (his current Buckeyes teams have been very high on the list lately) and talent, but also run the risk of dealing with some bad apples who haven't been "conditioned" to real life situations just yet due to his somewhat lax attitude. It's kind of like getting one over on your grandpa. He's just distracted by other things (In Meyers' case, winning) and seems to assume that you'll figure it out on your own.

I don't think it matters much, as Belichick hasn't seemed to be much of a fan of drafting OSU players in general. Aside from Ebner, I'm not sure that I can even think of anyone else who's been taken in the past 10 years. I'm sure there have been some, but they are few and far between, that's for sure.

Isnt this his 2nd or third recruiting class that can be drafted? Time well tell if it's a Meyer thing, but he has some blame. And considering he recruited Noah Spence, and there's even some talk of Bosa and Eliot loving hard party drugs, sounds like it can be a Meyer issue.

The track record between UF/Meyer has been so poor. We joke about Rutgers, but we've had good success their.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Why stop there?

Belichick's record without Brady (including Pats games);
52-62 (1-1 playoffs)
Belichick's record with Tom Brady at QB;
171-51 (22-9 playoffs)

Fix THAT.

11-5 without Brady and Kraft as his owner and not some mobbed up horse's ass trying to move his team

 

[RobertWeathers]

Isnt this his 2nd or third recruiting class that can be drafted? Time well tell if it's a Meyer thing, but he has some blame. And considering he recruited Noah Spence, and there's even some talk of Bosa and Eliot loving hard party drugs, sounds like it can be a Meyer issue.

The track record between UF/Meyer has been so poor. We joke about Rutgers, but we've had good success their.

At the end of the day, it's BB shopping for the groceries. He is 100% responsible for bringing these miscreants into the organization.

 

[Ivan]

Thats only for real fans like you.

Nice try but I can't take a picture of your tattoo.

As far as real fans go you would have to be guessing because you and the other little b.tches run away screaming at the first sign of adversity every year. And anyone who actually believes they can do a better job than Belichick belongs in a mental institution, which is probably where you are posting from because you have actually made that claim, and hysterically funny as that is you were actually serious. Now run along and take your meds and see if you can get one of the other inmates to do some cover work on your tattoo because that is really bad. Maybe you can get them to turn it into ************ and you can tell people it's you.

 

[Ivan]

Why stop there?

Belichick's record without Brady (including Pats games);
52-62 (1-1 playoffs)
Belichick's record with Tom Brady at QB;
171-51 (22-9 playoffs)

Fix THAT.

Belichick took a sh.tty franchise and was clearly in the process of turning them around when Modell screwed him and the city. Belichick drafted Brady and trained him to run their offense the way he wanted it run. And if you wanted to test your theory that it's all Brady all it would take is for Belichick to decide he was going free agent. He would last all of three seconds, would be the highest paid coach in the history of sports, would be given absolute control over all football operations, and there isn't a team in the league who wouldn't swap out their current coach and GM for him, so while you are entitled to your opinion of Belichick realize that's a lonely place too be.

You would however have triumph to keep you company, just make sure you get to the table first, from the looks of it he eats everything in sight.

 

[Triumph]

Nice try but I can't take a picture of your tattoo.

As far as real fans go you would have to be guessing because you and the other little b.tches run away screaming at the first sign of adversity every year. And anyone who actually believes they can do a better job than Belichick belongs in a mental institution, which is probably where you are posting from because you have actually made that claim, and hysterically funny as that is you were actually serious. Now run along and take your meds and see if you can get one of the other inmates to do some cover work on your tattoo because that is really bad. Maybe you can get them to turn it into ************ and you can tell people it's you.

Have another piece of pie.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Have another piece of pie.

He needs to deflate.

 

[Triumph]

This is often an argument used by Brady haters. It's not a good one.

Cassel inherited arguably the greatest offense of all time and a team that went 16-0 (18-1 total) the previous year.

They went 11-5 in 2008 and missed the playoffs. That's a difference of 7 wins.

The 2008 schedule was extremely weak as well. Only 3 of those 11 wins came against teams above .500. (2 of them being division wins against the Jets and Dolphins)

They had the #1 weakest schedule going into that season and #8 weakest after the season ended to adjust for the final records.

The Pats turned into a running team that season. IIRC, like top 5 in rushing.

Furthermore, the whole league didnt have any film on Cassel. They were preparing for Brady all year. Lots of QBs can go out in year 1 and dazzle looking good until year 2 comes around and the NFL has studied your tendencies.

 

[Triumph]

He needs to deflate.

Not around a flame.

Hes full of gas.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not around a flame.

Hes full of gas.

No kidding.

If he fell out of a plane and his parachute didn't open there would be a crater about a 1/2 a mile wide filled with pizza sauce. chicken wings and Snickers bars.

 

[Triumph]

No kidding.

If he fell out of a plane and his parachute didn't open there would be a crater about a 1/2 a mile wide filled with pizza sauce. chicken wings and Snickers bars.

The parachute would need to be the size of a hot air balloon.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The parachute would need to be the size of a hot air balloon.

Or a tarp that is able to cover lower Manhattan.

 

[n6249c]

Why stop there?

Belichick's record without Brady (including Pats games);
52-62 (1-1 playoffs)
Belichick's record with Tom Brady at QB;
171-51 (22-9 playoffs)

Fix THAT.

Brady has never won an NFL game without Belichick as coach.

Fix THAT.

 

[Ivan]

Have another piece of pie.

Wow, you are really opening up to us triumph. First the picture of your tattoo and now a profile picture. You should have cut the sleeves off so the tattoo would show.

 

[Jetssuck]

Brady has never won an NFL game without Belichick as coach.

Fix THAT.

Brady has never lost an NFL game without Belichick as coach.

Fix that.

 

[rochrist]

This is often an argument used by Brady haters. It's not a good one.

Cassel inherited arguably the greatest offense of all time and a team that went 16-0 (18-1 total) the previous year.

They went 11-5 in 2008 and missed the playoffs. That's a difference of 7 wins.

The 2008 schedule was extremely weak as well. Only 3 of those 11 wins came against teams above .500. (2 of them being division wins against the Jets and Dolphins)

They had the #1 weakest schedule going into that season and #8 weakest after the season ended to adjust for the final records.

And that isn't a particularly good argument either. You're comparing arguably the GOAT QB at the absolute height of his powers with a guy who had to come on cold to lead the team when he hadn't started a football game SINCE HIGH SCHOOL!
Nobody in any of these arguments has ever said he was as good as TB, the argument is that it's pretty conclusive proof of BB's coaching skill.

 

[rochrist]

11-5 without Brady and Kraft as his owner and not some mobbed up horse's ass trying to move his team

I have vivid memories of Bill bringing the Browns to Foxboro for the playoffs and kicking the ass of the Parcells led Pats.