Free Agency and Amendola/Revis Predictions

[ATippett56]

You have a strange analysis. I suggested that Revis be handed $22M for playing year 1. And you think that this is an insult.

TOTAL - $42M
Signing Bonus - $21M
2015 - $1M
2016 - $10M
2017 - $10M

And yes, some of 2016 and 2017 would be guaranteed.

In what way do you think that this contract is "back-loaded" and unacceptable to Revis. Revis gets $22M up front and is guaranteed more later. Obviously, the total compensation and guarantees are subject to negotiation, and probably can be worked out. You seem to think that the AAV is the most important factor. I suggest that MORE important is the roster bonus and guaranteed money. BTW, in my scenario, the 2015 cap hit does not vary with the AAV, since the variables are 2016/2017 salaries and guarantees.

Darrelle Revis holds all the cards. It's either the New England Patriots pick up the second year option on the Revis contract or pay the best cornerback in the NFL market value.

Darrelle Revis will not play for a $1 million base salary in year one of a new contract when Richard Sherman receives $10 million base salary in year one of a new contract.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/richard-sherman/

 

[supafly]

Revis 5yr/75m. Supposedly, wants 45m guaranteed.

Where did you hear that he wants 45 million dollars guaranteed? If that is really the case then there may be some serious problems, and that's not even bringing your FIVE year/75 million dollar prediction into play. That's really pushing things.

Richard Sherman recently signed a 4 yr/56 million dollar contract (with roughly 40m guaranteed), and he's the best young up and coming shutdown CB in the game, who won't even be Revis' age when his latest pact is completed.

I would think that the current Sherman deal will be right around where Belichick is willing to go.

 

[ATippett56]

Where did you hear that he wants 45 million dollars guaranteed? If that is really the case then there may be some serious problems, and that's not even bringing your FIVE year/75 million dollar prediction into play. That's really pushing things.

Richard Sherman recently signed a 4 yr/56 million dollar contract (with roughly 40m guaranteed), and he's the best young up and coming shutdown CB in the game, who won't even be Revis' age when his latest pact is completed.

I would think that the current Sherman deal will be right around where Belichick is willing to go.

I predict Darrelle Revis will want a contract commensurate to Richard Sherman's 4 year deal.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/richard-sherman/

Richard Sherman signed a 4 year / $56,000,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including a $11,000,000 signing bonus, $40,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $14,000,000.

Darrelle Revis proposed minimum contract:

4 years, $56 million, $16 million signing bonus, $36 million guaranteed (total)

2015 $10 million base (guaranteed), $4 million signing bonus, $14 million total
2016 $10 million base (guaranteed), $4 million signing bonus, $14 million total
2017 $10 million base, $4 million signing bonus, $14 million total
2018 $10 million base, $4 million signing bonus, $14 million total

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

Your list looks good, but, I think they'll compete to re-sign Vereen at a competitive salary. He proved his worth throughout the season and in the playoffs (19 receptions for 162 yards.) Vereen has become the Kevin Faulk safety valve on third down and is a decent deep threat when covered by a linebacker in man coverage.

His Superbowl will increase his value, but will probably tempt some team to overpay for his services. He isnt at Faulk's level of elusiveness, pass catching, pass protection, or run after the catch. Faulk was a special player and was money. Vereen is inconsistent but shows flashes - Great Superbowl performance and hopefully he will cash in!

 

[patsfaninpa]

Where did you hear that he wants 45 million dollars guaranteed? If that is really the case then there may be some serious problems, and that's not even bringing your FIVE year/75 million dollar prediction into play. That's really pushing things.

Richard Sherman recently signed a 4 yr/56 million dollar contract (with roughly 40m guaranteed), and he's the best young up and coming shutdown CB in the game, who won't even be Revis' age when his latest pact is completed.

I would think that the current Sherman deal will be right around where Belichick is willing to go.

Price said he's heard reports that he wants a little more than Sherman. I'd give him 24 more dollars than old **** Sherman.

 

[patsfan-1982]

I don't see Revis getting 14 million from the pats maybe 4 years 50 million at best. I think he comes back for 12 million a year and if he wants more then that he can walk and sign with the bills

 

[Brady6]

Here are some hard truths.
You cut Wilfork
Ridley stays on a 1 yr prove it deal but my thought is he moves to a team with more playing time. New Orleans, Dallas,Arizona, Indiapolis to think of a few.
Vareen was critical catching the ball we need to keep him 3 million a year should do it.
Revis shouldnt be paid more than 12 million a year so I say we go a little higher 3 years 38 million.
Ninkovich does not have the burst required for the position he plays so a tough cut or a restructure in the 2.5 3 million a season range.
I love Mayo but the think this defense has evolved without him I agree you need many good linebackers but unless he's coming as low as 3.5 or 4 million he's a hard trade but Belichick makes the tough decisions.
Admendola needs to stay played lights out in the postseason. So I say he stays maybe with a slight restructure.
He's more valuable in our offense only places I could see valuing his play style would be Oakland, Indy, San Diego, Philadelphia.
Mccourty this is a tough one I say you offer between 6 and 7 million a season.
Would hate to lose him.
So I say this much alot of tough decisions I see business decisions in Nink, Wilfork, Mayo being pushed out and it sucks but there is a cap and this is a business.

So Danny Amendola needs to be kept but Jerod Mayo, Rob Ninkovich, and Vince Wilfork are do not? I do not disagree that Amendola played well in the playoffs, and I would like to see him back but you are out of your freaking mind if you think he is a more valuable player than Mayo, Ninkovich, or Wilfork. Amendola was in the playoffs able to play well because of those players, remember that when you are taking that what have you done for me lately mentality to team building.

 

[Brady6]

I see Amendola and Edelman as a team now ... pushing each other and working in unison with Brady.
In other words I think Amendola needs to be evaluated on more than just stats ...
Be nice to see Edelman - LaFell - Amendola - Gronk - Vareen - stick together for a few years.
That group together helps keep Brady on his feet with their precision ... something to be valued as Brady approaches 40.

I do not disagree with the Edelman/Amendola team point, it is just that $5.7M is a big cap hit for the #3 WR who played less than 40% of the team’s snaps last season. You pay for production and including the playoffs he had 38 catches for 337 yards and 4 touchdowns in 19 games. I just cannot justify that cap hit for that production, as much as I would like to keep the band together, he is going to have to take a pay cut.

I definitely agree on the keeping them together to help Brady. Remember though they will likely evolve Tim Wright’s role in the offseason.

 

[Bruins29]

So Danny Amendola needs to be kept but Jerod Mayo, Rob Ninkovich, and Vince Wilfork are do not? I do not disagree that Amendola played well in the playoffs, and I would like to see him back but you are out of your freaking mind if you think he is a more valuable player than Mayo, Ninkovich, or Wilfork. Amendola was in the playoffs able to play well because of those players, remember that when you are taking that what have you done for me lately mentality to team building.

Maybe those players advanced in the playoffs because of Amendola.

 

[Brady6]

Maybe those players advanced in the playoffs because of Amendola.

They did, and Amendola won a SB because of Malcolm Butler, that is what teamwork is about. Individually though Amendola is a role player and Wilfork, Ninkovich and Mayo are all starters.

 

[Brady6]

The following players cannot return in 2015 with their current cap figure:

Revis
Wilfork
Mayo
Amendola
Arrington

That is the hard truth, they will either need to restructure or we will have to move on. There is no real way around it.

 

[50-yard-line]

The following players cannot return in 2015 with their current cap figure:

Revis
Wilfork
Mayo
Amendola
Arrington

That is the hard truth, they will either need to restructure or we will have to move on. There is no real way around it.

Revis - not sure I agree, since the Pats have (surprisingly) said they wouldn't be averse to picking up his salary. I suppose that's posturing, but they said it.

Wilfork - I'm not sure how well he played, honestly. if they think he had a top-10 DT year, then they'll pay him. Otherwise I agree.

Mayo - I agree.

Amendola - I agree.

Arrington - he had a good year, and from what I understand, cutting him saves us less than $1 million. I think he stays.

 

[Bruins29]

They did, and Amendola won a SB because of Malcolm Butler, that is what teamwork is about. Individually though Amendola is a role player and Wilfork, Ninkovich and Mayo are all starters.

You just cant resist can you. Mayo needs to restructure or he is gone. We have suitable replacements for him especially if they keep Ayers. Wilfork needs to also restructure or he is gone. 8 million a year is too much and again Branch and Siliga along with Easley may be a solid replacement if they feel there is suitable depth. Ninko will be here.

So assuming Wilfork and Mayo are either overpaid or there is a replacement, who is going to be our slot WR?

 

[SalemPats]

The thing that helps Revis and Wilfork are that shutdown cb and a reliable NT are hard to find. I think both re-sign/re-negotiate, Revis might take a small discount, I think his personality fits this team very well. Wilfork will not get the money he wants from a playoff bound team and I think he'll realize that very quickly

 

[FirstAndGoal]

In Bill we trust

 

[Todd Bradley]

In Bill we trust

Agree 100%.

As a fan I'm on cloud 9 and I'm done second guessing Bill. Never again, when I thought trading Mankins was bad, I was totally wrong, and so on and so forth.

He'll make the right decisions for this team, no reason for me to waste time and speculate anymore.

In Bill We Trust.

 

[ashley]

Would love to see all of our players back, but that is not realisitc....I think our first two orders of priority are obviuosly Revis and McCourty. I really like Vereen, just not sure if we will be able to afford him.
I think Mayo, Wilfork and Amendola should and will be restructured.

 

[Concussion Protocol]

If Wilfork had spent his 11-year career with say, the Tennessee Titans, we'd scoff at the idea of bringing him on board at anything more than the vet minimum. Yes, he has more value to the Pats because of his experience in the system, but to let better players walk due to sentimentality would terrible IMO. I was honestly hoping Vince would retire.

 

[Patriots1364life]

I have no doubts that revis will be back here.Idk about amendola. Not at his number.

 

[ZoisKing]

I wish we could convince Revis to take less in order to afford fair contracts for all. #hypnosisgate?