The ineligible package...

[unoriginal]

------------------- #47 #77 #63 #62 #77 ------------------ #34 ---------#19
#11-------------------------#12------------#87-------------------#80-------

Is how I think it looked, not sure on all the numbers. Rules state that 7 players need to be on the line, and only the end players can be eligible receivers. Vereen looks like a receiver but actually is a lineman. Hoomanawanui looks like an LT but actually is a TE. It's kind of like an Emory & Henry formation right mixed with tackle eligible left.

EDIT:
As it turns out I got the formation slightly wrong, Amendola is on Edelman's side. So less like an Emory & Henry formation, apart from the split out "lineman." (i.e. Vereen)

 

[Uncle Rico]

Doug Kyed ‏@DougKyedNESN 37s37 seconds ago
Harbaugh was asked if he's every seen a 4-OL alignment: "No. Nobody’s ever seen that before."

 

[Uncle Rico]

What a relief. The title of the thread made he thing this was about something else.

Couple of Manhattans and ineligible happens ...

 

[Galeb]

Couple of Manhattans and ineligible happens ...

I'm dirty. "It happens" after a couple of 7-Ups.

 

[BelichickFan]

I'm a little slow right now; probably from banging my head with my hands during the game....

So I need to ask how Vereen declaring himself ineligible helped us?

I think the quick answer is that although it didn't make an extra eligible receiver, it gave the perception of one if the defense wasn't right on it mentally so it was tough for them to know who to cover.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Can someone please remind me what the actual result of this play was? I was doing some work during the game and caught some c0mments about it but can't remember the result. Was it actually significant?

 

[TBR]

Can someone please remind me what the actual result of this play was? I was doing some work during the game and caught some c0mments about it but can't remember the result. Was it actually significant?

I believe it resulted in a piece of cake 3rd down pass to Hoomanowanui

 

[PatriotSpy]

This just adds to BB's legend. This is pure GENIOUS. PURE GENIOUS. He got wide open recievers and an unsportsmanlike penalty on that drive using this. They just had a guy on ESPN who's been a ref for 30 years and he said he's never seen anything like it EVER and that what the Patriots did was perfectly legal.

Put BB in the HoF Now. Not tommorow, not next week, not next year, NOW. Effin' Genious.

 

[PATS16N0]

Frickin' genius!

Where do ya guys watch the post game interviews?

www.patriots.com

 

[mayoclinic]

The Pats put four OL on the field (think Kline came off and Connolly moved to center, Wendell RG, no LG) with two tight ends (Hoomanawanui is the "LT" on the short side of the unbalanced line) and Vereen is in the slot on the line, covered by the outside receiver (LaFell) who is also on the line. Vereen declares himself an ineligible receiver (which he has to, as he has an eligible number, 34) at the last possible moment, so the defense hopefully isn't fully aware and someone decides to cover him.

The person who covers Vereen is the guy who should be covering Hoomanawanui, so he hopefully is either uncovered (which is what happened) or the free safety comes down to get him and Brady gets Cover Zero and can pick his poison.

Perhaps the most useful aspect of this formation is that it got Josh Kline off the field. When your LG sucks, go to a formation with no LG ... brilliant.

 

[PATS16N0]

Belichick playing chess, everyone else playing `stare at Belichick playing chess dumbfounded and speechless.`

 

[Delicate Genius]

Can someone please remind me what the actual result of this play was? I was doing some work during the game and caught some c0mments about it but can't remember the result. Was it actually significant?

3rd Quarter
2-6-BAL 24 (7:19) NE 34-Vereen ineligible. (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 47-M.Hoomanawanui to BAL 10 for 14 yards (24-D.Stewart). PENALTY on BAL, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 10. Penalty on BAL bench.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm a little slow right now; probably from banging my head with my hands during the game....

So I need to ask how Vereen declaring himself ineligible helped us?

We only had 4 OL so one other player had to be ineligible. Obviously the point was to confide the defense.
However vereen was split out (2nd from end) and tabs bubble screen route. I think the plan included if they didn't cover him at all which seemed likely he would get a bubble screen which would be legal because it would've a backward lateral.

 

[Ring 6]

3rd Quarter
2-6-BAL 24 (7:19) NE 34-Vereen ineligible. (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 47-M.Hoomanawanui to BAL 10 for 14 yards (24-D.Stewart). PENALTY on BAL, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 10. Penalty on BAL bench.

They used it more than once. 3 times I believe.

 

[tombonneau]

This is a good explanation:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/...-trick-play-that-got-john-harbaugh-mad-ravens

 

[BHSL2]

As an explanation of what constitutes eligible and ineligible players in a formation for those who may not know..

Every formation has 11 players.
Usually, 6 are skill players and 5 are lineman.
In any and every formation, you MUST have 7 men on the LOS.
The 2 OUTER MOST players on the LOS are always eligible.
In a sense, 5 of your 7 players on the LOS MUST be ineligible.

My opinion: this was some college ****. Gary Pinkel-esque. You see this a lot at the collegiate level and some of these formations get absurd. Scheming wide open players.

Lol at Baltimore for being whiners. Quitting yapping. Yall got beat. And you had the refs.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Perhaps the most useful aspect of this formation is that it got Josh Kline off the field. When your LG sucks, go to a formation with no LG ... brilliant.

Kline played RG not LG fyi. Never played LG

 

[ausbacker]

As an explanation of what constitutes eligible and ineligible players in a formation for those who may not know..

Every formation has 11 players.
Usually, 6 are skill players and 5 are lineman.
In any and every formation, you MUST have 7 men on the LOS.
The 2 OUTER MOST players on the LOS are always eligible.
In a sense, 5 of your 7 players on the LOS MUST be ineligible.

My opinion: this was some college ****. Gary Pinkel-esque. You see this a lot at the collegiate level and some of these formations get absurd. Scheming wide open players.

Lol at Baltimore for being whiners. Quitting yapping. Yall got beat. And you had the refs.

If it wins the Patriots the Super Bowl, they should scheme more of it. Hell, give me WR to WR TDs whilst you're at it.

 

[mayoclinic]

This is a good explanation:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/...-trick-play-that-got-john-harbaugh-mad-ravens

A detailed breakdown of the package from Rich Hill at Patspulpit:

http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/1/10/7526765/explaining-the-patriots-four-offensive-linemen-play

Interesting that it was all done after Bryan Stork left the game.

 

[BSR]

We only had 4 OL so one other player had to be ineligible. Obviously the point was to confide the defense.
However vereen was split out (2nd from end) and tabs bubble screen route. I think the plan included if they didn't cover him at all which seemed likely he would get a bubble screen which would be legal because it would've a backward lateral.

Can lineman take laterals?