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Well have to give credit to Strahan. They did a segment on the overtime rules and he said they wouldn't even be talking about it if it wasnt Peyton Manning.

Jimmy Johnson also killed Manning saying he had 60minutes and to be mad at his defense.
 
How the hell did that big dope Bart Scott land a high-profile media job on NFL Today?
 
Bart scott on CBS and they have sherman on NFLN. ugh
 
Well have to give credit to Strahan. They did a segment on the overtime rules and he said they wouldn't even be talking about it if it wasnt Peyton Manning.

Jimmy Johnson also killed Manning saying he had 60minutes and to be mad at his defense.
The whole rule change was bought about people in the media ..specifically people like peter king complaining that manning didnt touch the ball in overtime loss to SD in a playoff game I think and how favre didnt get a chance in his playoff game vs the saints.
 
Well have to give credit to Strahan. They did a segment on the overtime rules and he said they wouldn't even be talking about it if it wasnt Peyton Manning.

Jimmy Johnson also killed Manning saying he had 60minutes and to be mad at his defense.

Yeah, I don't think the overtime rule is perfect, but far better than most of the alternatives. I still think if you cannot stop a team from going 80 yards for a TD shouldn't win.

BTW, Howie Long's solution has to be the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. If the team that gets the ball first gets a TD, they have to go for two and if they get it the game is over and if not the other team gets a shot. Huh?
 
Bart scott on CBS and they have sherman on NFLN. ugh

He is articulate (or at least enough to replace Shannon Sharpe) and has no filters. Every one of these panels try to have "that guy".
 
He is articulate (or at least enough to replace Shannon Sharpe) and has no filters. Every one of these panels try to have "that guy".

Good point. He is an improvement over Sharpe while filling the same sort of role.
 
So you do not hold Bill Belichick to a higher standard than the 31 other Head Coaches and General Managers in the NFL? You want to label him the best HC in the NFL or the GOAT HC but you judge him on the same standards that you judge the Rex Ryan’s and Marvin Lewis’s of the NFL.

Just as I expect Brady to perform better then Tony Romo, I expect Belichick to perform better than his peers. Highlighting others failures is fluff in a weak attempt to justify mistakes. Belichick has been in the draft room as long as anyone in the NFL he has significant experience, so yes I expect him to do a superior job to others teams HC and GM.

I obviously hold BB to a higher standard than others, but the measuring stick we use is totally
different.

All of that statistical analysis was done not to absolve BB of guilt, nor was it to prove that we are great or terrible. I first went into it without an opinion, but rather some questions. I objectively looked at the data. And I concluded that everyone who thinks we are the worst team at drafting WRs is absolutely, positively, 100% wrong.

We are certainly not great at it. We are certainly not the worst at it either.

Then I wanted to understand what impact hitting on WRs in the draft does in terms of actually winning.

I don't give a **** about the number of games played by draft picks or % of above-average 4th-round WRs we draft. I judge a team by the number of wins and championships they produce.

If the goal is to maximize draft pick performance, you would see BB act differently. Chad Jackson gets to play as much as possible in hopes that it isn't a "wasted" pick. Darius Butler gets handed a starting job and he can eventually develop into a decent defensive back. We probably scale back some of the high-risk, high-reward injury types in the mid-rounds and go for safe singles instead of home runs. No wasted picks on Ras-I Dowling, but no high-upside picks like Rob Gronkowski.

Do we win more games? I doubt it. But if your goal is to maximize draft pick performance, who cares about wins?

I care. More than anything else. More than draft pick expected average. More than number of WRs exceeding expected AV.

And the data doesn't suggest success at drafting WRs leads to more wins. Here are the top 10 teams in terms of how much draft capital they've invested in the position based on expected AV:

Bengals
Titans
Packers
Jaguars
Browns
Lion
Rams
Steelers
Bills
Giants

You have 5 championships from 3 teams, 1 pretty decent team that can't win a playoff game in the Bengals, and some of the losers in the league. Now here's the bottom 10 teams in this category, who have spent the least amount of draft capital:

Colts
Cowboys
Jets
Panthers
Dolphins
Chargers
Seahawks
Saints
Bucs
Patriots

You have 5 championships from 3 teams, some AFC division teams which have mostly sucked, and some semi-decent teams depending on the year (Cowboys, Panthers, Chargers). That leaves 4 championships in the middle 12 teams. Not a strong correlation or argument for any segment.

Is there a significant difference between teams that spend a lot and teams that don't spend a lot? Not really. What about teams in the middle? Not really. Doesn't really seem to matter.

That's draft picks spent. It doesn't factor in what they actually did with those picks, so let's look at the same top/bottom 10 for teams that actually hit on those picks (exceeded their expected AV).

Top 10
Bengals
Steelers
Cardinals
Packers
Broncos
Jets
Colts
Eagles
Falcons
Texans

Bottom 10
Redskins
Bucs
Rams
Ravens
Cowboys
Patriots
Chiefs
Titans
Chargers
Dolphins

You have 3 teams winning 4 championships in the top 10, and 2 teams winning 5 championships in the bottom 10. That leaves another 5 championships in the middle 12. Again, really no convincing argument that a team MUST use and hit on lots of WRs to win championships or SHOULDN'T do it. It more or less doesn't matter in terms of winning championships.

We talk a lot about the value of RBs dropping, but I am not seeing really conclusive evidence that you need to draft a lot of top-notch WRs if you want to win a championship. Certainly, receivers are important in today's NFL, but you can't really conclude they have a huge impact on winning games consistently.

That's what I care about.

If the data showed that teams that hit on lots of WR draft picks won more championships, I would be lighting the torches and grabbing the pitchforks too. It just doesn't support it.

So you might as well tell me Rex Ryan can beat BB in a hot dog eating contest. I don't care because it doesn't have an impact on winning. And until someone can prove to me that hitting on your WR draft picks is significant to winning, I'm not going to care too much about it either.
 
the pats have been just as good as the rest of the NFL at finding starting WR's out of the first round the big problem has been not finding the David Patten and Jabar Gaffney types the #3 or 4 WR that can make a play so far its been starting WR ( Givens. Brunch Edelman ) or bust the jury is still out on Dobson and KT
 
Going to be routing for Houston, Detroit and Oakland today!!!!
 
You guys think Bears have a chance today? That San Fran game impressed the hell out of me but they almost (and probably should have if refs didn't take away a fumble return for a touchdown) blew it against the Jets and they also lost to the Bills at home. Bears are the winner of today if they can get over the hump vs Green Bay. Last year's finale vs Green Bay was a ****ing joke 4th and 27...
 
The Lions' d-line looks to be way overrated. They are getting eaten alive by the Jets' oline. They look to be playing keep away from Chris Ivory.
 
why was that not intentional grounding on smith? he was clearly in the pocket
 
Jets OL dominating Lions. Weakness is Red Zone where Lions can box up
 
TD Raiders.
 
Lions I dont trust them today. There are prime to lay an egg vs the jets.
 
NFL needs to can that cheesy commercial about their app.
 
It's actually kind of nice after the last 3 weeks to just sit and watch other football games without being 100% focused on the Pats
 
Houston DL is scary Only a penalty keeps Buff drive alive
 
Bears TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!
 


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