Looking back at Tom Brady's performance in this past AFC Championship Game

[jmt57]

Some of Tom Terrific's playoff performances since 2004:

DEN: 20-36, 341 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's
SD: 27-51, 280 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's
SD: 22-33, 207 yards, 2 TD's 3 INT's
BAL: 23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's (I'm sensing a trend)
BAL 22-36, 239 yards, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
BAL: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's

And we've already seen Belichick's defenses at work. Joe Flacco x2, Eli Manning x2, Mark Sanchez.

Did you honestly expect a player that had gone 10-0 in the playoffs to continue winning at that rate?

Football is the ultimate team game. Assessing blame for losses to a single player is short-sighted, and looking at only losses while disregarding victories is going to yield very predictable statistics.

 

[SB39]

Sorry you don't believe me, but I don't really care that much.

Ya. Sure. Nothing says "I don't care" like 2 posts and about 1,000 words writing about how you're always right and everyone else is wrong.

So you think the Patriots were done when they were down 3-0 in the 1st quarter? When did you start following this team? 2011?

 

[supafly]

Some of Tom Terrific's playoff performances since 2004:

DEN: 20-36, 341 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's
SD: 27-51, 280 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's
SD: 22-33, 207 yards, 2 TD's 3 INT's
BAL: 23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's (I'm sensing a trend)
BAL 22-36, 239 yards, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
BAL: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's

And we've already seen Belichick's defenses at work. Joe Flacco x2, Eli Manning x2, Mark Sanchez.

So basically, when Brady plays like crap it takes our odds of winning down to 50/50? I'll take that any day of the week compared to the high majority of other teams.

I agree that he hasn't looked as good, but this is a team sport and when you lose your top weapons like Gronk and Welker there's going to be a dropoff.

I would respectfully add that these stats have been cherry picked to support your argument, and even then they still went 3-3 in the 6 game span.

 

[Jackson 2]

Some of Tom Terrific's playoff performances since 2004:

DEN: 20-36, 341 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's
SD: 27-51, 280 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's
SD: 22-33, 207 yards, 2 TD's 3 INT's
BAL: 23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's (I'm sensing a trend)
BAL 22-36, 239 yards, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
BAL: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's

And we've already seen Belichick's defenses at work. Joe Flacco x2, Eli Manning x2, Mark Sanchez.

Cherry-picking at its finest. Well- done. "Sensing a trend" is easy whe you're dealing cards from a rigged deck.

 

[PATS16N0]

Ya. Sure. Nothing says "I don't care" like 2 posts and about 1,000 words writing about how you're always right and everyone else is wrong.

So you think the Patriots were done when they were down 3-0 in the 1st quarter? When did you start following this team? 2011?

Try 1994.

When did I say I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong?

I usually like your posts but you're going to have to explain why you have such a problem with me not wanting to watch 3 quarters of sycophantic Peyton worship for getting a win over a shell of a Patriots team which quite obviously didn't have the tools and expended all of his miracles for the season.

I probably posted in the Denver gameday thread when we were down 24-0. Feel free to continue your investigation there.

 

[supafly]

Cherry-picking at its finest. Well- done. "Sensing a trend" is easy whe you're dealing cards from a rigged deck.

Notice how that "trend" was coming at a time when they were 2-1 going into that game as well?



Not meaning to pile on vs Tony. I just disagree with some of the thinking, nothing more.

 

[PATS16N0]

Cherry-picking at its finest. Well- done. "Sensing a trend" is easy whe you're dealing cards from a rigged deck.

Yeah, Peyton fan double agent troll alert.

 

[Jackson 2]

Notice how that "trend" was coming at a time when they were 2-1 going into that game as well?



Not meaning to pile on Tony, either.. I just disagree with some of the thinking, nothing more.

Agreed, I'm not meaning to pile on Tony either. Picking selected games to make your point is dishonest. Just my take.

 

[Deus Irae]

Some of Tom Terrific's playoff performances since 2004:

DEN: 20-36, 341 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's
SD: 27-51, 280 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's
SD: 22-33, 207 yards, 2 TD's 3 INT's
BAL: 23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's (I'm sensing a trend)
BAL 22-36, 239 yards, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
BAL: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's

And we've already seen Belichick's defenses at work. Joe Flacco x2, Eli Manning x2, Mark Sanchez.

 

[doesntmatter1]

I rewatched the last afccg like 5 times. Yes Brady missed a few throws but the throw to Slater on 3rd and short was just dumb. Our offense didn't find a rhythm until the third quarter. And after watching this game repeatedly, our defense actually played better than I thought. We know Talib going down hurt, but as far as I am concerned their first touchdown should have never happened. We got them into 3rd and long multiple times and couldn't get them off the field but the refs helped one of those conversions. They ran multiple pick plays(they looked illegal I might add) and logan ryan was called for holding on decker on a poor throw. Ryan barely had his jersey since he was fighting through a pick. They would have punted and who knows how the game would have went from there.

Also, Dennard, who I suspect was hurt earlier in the game, could not cover Thomas at all. If we could have found a way to contain Thomas better after Talib went down, it seemed as if our offense was slowly getting on track.

One other play that is very annoying to watch repeatedly is a third down catch by welker against arrington. It is a slow duck just coasting in the air and because arrington has zero ball skills it is completed. There are parts of arrington's game I like but honestly I would throw 40 yard bombs that just hang in the air and are extremely easy to catch if he is covering one on one because the odds of him batting or intercepting it are extremely low. Arrington and Jonathan Wilhite are the only corners I have ever seen consistently have tight coverage and rarely get their hands on a ball.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

If Gronk can play ALL playoff games...we are a different team. Last year we were 1 dimensional in that game

 

[RayClay]

Try 1994.

When did I say I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong?

I usually like your posts but you're going to have to explain why you have such a problem with me not wanting to watch 3 quarters of sycophantic Peyton worship for getting a win over a shell of a Patriots team which quite obviously didn't have the tools and expended all of his miracles for the season.

I probably posted in the Denver gameday thread when we were down 24-0. Feel free to continue your investigation there.

No one says you have to watch anything you don't want to.

 

[PATS16N0]

No one says you have to watch anything you don't want to.

Wasn't my point (/.\) Just not sure why anyone wouldn't believe someone wouldn't want to put themselves through that game. Everything was horrible about it, on the most horrible season, with the most horrible tabloid ramifications.

"Sucks. Just sucks."

Fortunately Peyton showed up in the Superbowl in the most epic fashion imaginable and now it's almost like it never happened.

 

[PATS16N0]

Right from the jump you could see in the trenches that Blount wasn't going to be effective in that game.

You could see that it was going to be yet another play off game that Tom Terrific was going to have to will the team to victory all by himself, when it was too injured and exhausted and beat up to go any further. I don't think it took special powers of observation to see that. Nobody was getting open, Blount was shut down, and our offensive line was getting pushed around.

Then Brady over shoots Edelman, on the road, in the altitude, and what else was there to say?

He's willed plenty of teams further than they maybe should have gone, and given a lot of individual JAG's a trip to a Superbowl who would never had seen one otherwise, but he's never done it when he's so uncharacteristically off on top of all of his other problems.

Our defense was in tatters, we knew it was going to have to be a great over achieving effort with that squad to repeat the performance earlier in the year, then Talib is out.

Who seriously thought we were going to stop Peyton and Denver's offense for even a second after that? I'm impressed the final score was as low as it was, which is honestly sort of sad on Denver's part.

I don't like Peyton, and I think calling him the GOAT is absolutely ridiculous, but he's still Peyton Manning and enough of what BSPN thinks he is that he shouldn't have had problems, with his weapons, to light the holes in that secondary up.

Fumes carried the 2013 Patriots to the AFC Championship game but not over it. Game was over in the 1st

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Brady was bad but it didn't really make a difference. He could have had an A game and we still would have needed to be very fortunate with turnovers/timing to win that game. The sad thing is given how our defense played, it didnt matter if we were down 7, down 3, tied, or even somehow up late in that game our defense wasn't going to stop **** they were going to lose it.

 

[TonyTucker]

Sad on Denver's part? They were on the field the whole game and Forehead threw for 400 yards. Just because the score wasn't high doesn't mean they didn't dominate. For instance, look at the Pats 2004 playoff win over Indy. They only scored 20, but controlled that game.

 

[joepatsfan]

To the guy who said he knew the Pats were gonna beat the Broncos and then lose in the AFCCG after a quarter is completely BSing.

When the Pats were down 24-0 at half I lost my mind pissed off but still thought in my mind,
"okay, we can still do this we're down only 4 scores with a half left." Still part of me was like jesus we could lose this game by 40 and part of me thought were still in this. I didn't know anything. I vividly remember the 49ers game too and said well, we could eventually comeback if we get stops and scores or we just get throttled. you don't know ****.

In the AFCCG I was holding out hope on a comeback until Brady was sacked on that 4th and short later in the game.

You can't just know these things unless its the Ravens 09 game all over again and we're down 24-0 early with like no first downs.


also, I don't care if this team is down 70-0 in the first quarter just because I know they are going to lose I doesn't mean I'm turning it off, what a joke. That's something fake fans would pull. You watch this team no matter what. Even if you "KNOW" they are going to lose, which is impossible, you still watch the game or just label yourself a casual fan.

Like, I'm a casual fan of the Red Sox. If they are down big, I'm out. That sounds like you.

 

[PATS16N0]

To the guy who said he knew the Pats were gonna beat the Broncos and then lose in the AFCCG after a quarter is completely BSing.

When the Pats were down 24-0 at half I lost my mind pissed off but still thought in my mind,
"okay, we can still do this we're down only 4 scores with a half left." Still part of me was like jesus we could lose this game by 40 and part of me thought were still in this. I didn't know anything. I vividly remember the 49ers game too and said well, we could eventually comeback if we get stops and scores or we just get throttled. you don't know ****.

In the AFCCG I was holding out hope on a comeback until Brady was sacked on that 4th and short later in the game.

You can't just know these things unless its the Ravens 09 game all over again and we're down 24-0 early with like no first downs.


also, I don't care if this team is down 70-0 in the first quarter just because I know they are going to lose I doesn't mean I'm turning it off, what a joke. That's something fake fans would pull. You watch this team no matter what. Even if you "KNOW" they are going to lose, which is impossible, you still watch the game or just label yourself a casual fan.

Like, I'm a casual fan of the Red Sox. If they are down big, I'm out. That sounds like you.

"Raw raw raw, I didn't have a clue what was gonna' happen so you couldn't have either, raw raw raw. You're a casual fan, raw raw raw."

 

[joepatsfan]

"Raw raw raw, I didn't have a clue what was gonna' happen so you couldn't have either, raw raw raw. You're a casual fan, raw raw raw."

Raw raw raw raw. These are the facts. You didn't know ****. Idk about your fanhood, but not watching the AFFCG is pretty sorry. But you could still be a diehard, not in my book, but I guess.

but one thing is for sure, you couldn't predict any of those games. raw raw raw (see I can do it too)

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Some of Tom Terrific's playoff performances since 2004:

DEN: 20-36, 341 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's
SD: 27-51, 280 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's
SD: 22-33, 207 yards, 2 TD's 3 INT's
BAL: 23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD's, 3 INT's (I'm sensing a trend)
BAL 22-36, 239 yards, 0 TD's, 2 INT's
BAL: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's

And we've already seen Belichick's defenses at work. Joe Flacco x2, Eli Manning x2, Mark Sanchez.

Given the context of the games you cannot blame Brady. You have to look at the defense, special teams and the weapons on offense. Brady hasn't been his terrific self but he also hasn't had a reliable defense or weapons to take advantage of every part of the field for several years now. Brady has played well enough in the last 2sbs, and AFCCG of 2013 to get us wins. In the 2012 AFCCG we had the murderer, Lloyd and welker who turned into alligator arms. How is a QB supposed to win with weapons that can't help him. Give Brady a supporting cast that can attack all parts of the field and are healthy I bet his numbers will get better, a lot better