Sorry for assuming this is common knowledge, since it's something the black people I know talk about regularly, it's been around for ages in discussion of Uncle Tom's, it's heavy in the culture too (ever see a Spike Lee movie, he only mentions it 10x per movie). I could go on and on, but this is the sort of controversy this issue always seems to raise:
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Yeah, no. That has nothing to do with the comments you made.
What context could there possibly be for "he's not black enough?"
Umm, first that comment would have to have been made.
I said the exact opposite of this. I wrote that no one has the right to essentialize how Martin should act, and what constitutes blackness.
No, you are denegrating the OTHER black players on the team.
Your racist approach says that every black person must treat every other black person the same way.
You are endorsing treating people based upon their race not who they are.
1. I never accused the black players of racism. Look it up.
Of course you did. Your words
I'm saying they harbor bigoted notions about blackness
2. I don't think you're right that any bigotry is racial.
Biogtry BASED UPON RACE is racism. Your bigotry comments were based upon race. 2+2=4 every time.
3. I used the word I've most commonly seen dealing with this issue, and it's commonly called "intra-race bigotry" which is different from racism. When black players say that Martin isn't black enough,
They never said that
they are not making declarations about the superiority of their race (or the inferiority of another). You may define racism differently, but I think this is a pretty common usage.
OMG, are you for real. All this and you do not know the definition of racism?
Racism is when the way you treat people is based upon their race, not who they are as a person.
When you say 'the black players shouldn't have said he was not black "(which they didn't by the way) your comment is racist because you are identifying and judging them by the color of their skin.
Thinking that 'black people' should do one thing because they are 'black people' is a racist viewpoint.
I don't think you mean harm with your racist perspective, but it is still a racist perspective.
When a person extols the superiority of one race over another, that's racism.
That is an example of racism.
Telling a black person how they should act because they are black is another example.
I never said the black players were doing that in Martin's case, and that's why I never used the word racism to describe what they were doing, and it's why I called it bigotry.
You should really study up on the definitions of the words you are using before you dig yourself in a deeper hole on a sensitive topic.
What? Where are you coming up with this?
1. I wrote that they SHOULDN'T declare that blackness is only one thing, that by saying Martin isn't black or black enough, they are putting all blacks into "one umbrella" as you put it.
Your comments about the OTHER PLAYERS are racist. You are putting THEM under one umbrella. You are telling them because they are black, you are deciding for them as a group how they should treat Martin.
This is exacerabated by your misunderstanding of what was said also.
As for the last comment, you totally misconstrued what I was saying. That was only one possibility for why they don't feel Martin is black enough.
Again, irrelevant because they didn't say that.
Once again though you are blowing past the demeaning comments you are making toward the other black players and defending your comments from your perspective on Martin.
You essentially lumped every black player who isnt Martin into 'those uneducated guys who cant' deal with the one educated black guy'.
I wrote that it could be his education. It could also be the fact that he's biracial. It could be that he doesn't apek like them. or like the things they do. It could be any number of things, but the fact that they singled him out as not being black enough tells me that they don't dislike him because he's a pansy, or because he sucks on the OL, or because he's a crybaby.
They didn't say he wasn't black enough.
They might dislike him for all the latter reasons, but when they say he isn't black enough, it's for an entirely different reason altogether. I was clear when I first wrote that that I was speculating. I have no idea really why they don't think he's not black. I'm only guessing that it has to do with one parent being white, or with his speech, or with his Stanford education. It could be other things.
Even if they said that, you are taking the extreme view that it means they think less of him because he is half white, when a much more reasonable conclusion, especially based on the context, which was is Incognito a racist, it clearly means he did not fit in with the black players as well.
