Thru week 6 Amendola has only proven his critics correct…

[supafly]

BB is no fool as soon as A Dropson gets it I can see BB parting ways with DA.

One would assume that Bill Belichick has a much more tolerable and patient nature for looking at the big picture, rather than just outright give up on someone who has dealt with some injuries and bad luck for 5 or 6 weeks.

Good lord--it's only been 6 weeks! This move was made for the current AND the future. Who in their right mind would give up on anyone after a month or so? Even unproven rookies get the benefit of the doubt with a likely 2 year average here. We're talking about a guy who got off to a rough start injury-wise, not a basket case selfish player who refuses to listen or attempt to understand the scheme like Ochocinco etc.

On top of that, I fail to see what Aaron Dobson would have to do with the relationship to Danny Amendola?

Even IF Amendola didn't produce much more throughout the entire season, Bill Belichick is not going to cut him at the end of the year. That is beyond ridiculous in my opinion.

 

[manxman2601]

One would assume that Bill Belichick has a much more tolerable and patient nature for looking at the big picture, rather than just outright give up on someone who has dealt with some injuries and bad luck for 5 or 6 weeks.

Good lord--it's only been 6 weeks! This move was made for the current AND the future. Who in their right mind would give up on anyone after a month or so? Even unproven rookies get the benefit of the doubt with a likely 2 year average here. We're talking about a guy who got off to a rough start injury-wise, not a basket case selfish player who refuses to listen or attempt to understand the scheme like Ochocinco etc.

On top of that, I fail to see what Aaron Dobson would have to do with the relationship to Danny Amendola?

Even IF Amendola didn't produce much more throughout the entire season, Bill Belichick is not going to cut him at the end of the year. That is beyond ridiculous in my opinion.

Hope you don't mind Supa but I felt this needed more exclamation.

 

[holyredeemer]

Sucks when the actualities of life just keep coming and you just want them to stop… You guys act like we just employed the slot position for the first time in New England, nobody has used the slot position more over the past decade then the New England Patriots, how many head injuries have the receivers suffered during that time? You think Welker never had a player launching at him to prevent him reaching a first down marker? Do you remember Brown, Edelman, Branch, Woodhead, Faulk, Hernandez and any of the other players who caught passes out of the slot leave the game concussed? We practice protecting ourselves constantly and Amendola ignored what he was taught and that caused the injury, not to use the car analogy again but if you launch into that intersection not wearing your seatbelt you cannot be surprised if you get hurt and the person who wore their seatbelt did not.

Umm. What? Okay, let's play. Im not gonna give u the car analogy because Amendola was wearing his "seat belt" but I call it a helmet. Anyways. Google is your friend. For example 11/22/12 against the NYJ Edelman got knocked silly by Landry, remember that? Guess not. Woodhead had a concussion against Miami in 2011. Just google the rest, and you'll see em. The bottom line here is that you're a troll. A good one, I will give you that. Hell, look at all the responses you've gotten. This is the last time Im going to respond to you in this thread. Try to either A. Stop trolling your favorite teams fans or B. Take a chill,and enjoy the wins without taking a dump all over your favorite teams injured players. Cheers.

 

[E1Downey]

Re: Re: Thru week 6 Amendola has only proven his critics correct…

Day after one of the greatest regular season wins in this team's history and the most active thread is one complaining about one of our guys getting injured too often.

This ******* fanbase.

Lol yeah cuz that's all this is about. It's simply complaining about a patriot player being injured too often....
It's not just "one of our guys", not just "patriot player x" being injured too often.
In case you forgot (which we know you didn't, you just don't have a valid counter so you instead are choosing to morph the original argument by completely stripping it down and pretending it's something else) this is the guy with a well known injury history that is supposed to be replacing Wes ******* Welker. This is whom people are upset about being injured. Upset that outside of week one he has been unable to help the team in any meaningful way....due to injuries.

Yeah, "this ******* fanbase" is right. The fanbase that considers having a criticizing opinion about the infallible patriots total blasphemy. Especially on a holy day such as this. "Day after one of the greatest regular season wins in this team's history"

Please understand that one can be psyched about the win while also realizing the reality of the Amendola vs Welker debate.

 

[pheenix11]

Why the hell wasn't helmet to helmet called on that play BTW?

 

[E1Downey]

Re: Re: Thru week 6 Amendola has only proven his critics correct…

To those calling for Amendola's release-Stick to Madden, you don't know anything about real football.



At least this thread demonstrates the kind of people who left that game or turned it off yesterday, and say what you want about Amendola, he isn't a quitter, you people are.

Lol I love it love it love it.

People that think the Amendola/Welker situation has been (through week 6) exactly what we feared it would be are the same people that left early?
Weak, weak, weak! Pathetic even.

Maybe I'm a little slow but I truly need to hear your reasoning behind that one. Maybe I just want another laugh.

 

[MassPats38]

Lol yeah cuz that's all this is about. It's simply complaining about a patriot player being injured too often....
It's not just "one of our guys", not just "patriot player x" being injured too often.
In case you forgot (which we know you didn't, you just don't have a valid counter so you instead are choosing to morph the original argument by completely stripping it down and pretending it's something else) this is the guy with a well known injury history that is supposed to be replacing Wes ******* Welker. This is whom people are upset about being injured. Upset that outside of week one he has been unable to help the team in any meaningful way....due to injuries.

Yeah, "this ******* fanbase" is right. The fanbase that considers having a criticizing opinion about the infallible patriots total blasphemy. Especially on a holy day such as this. "Day after one of the greatest regular season wins in this team's history"

Please understand that one can be psyched about the win while also realizing the reality of the Amendola vs Welker debate.

What reality? With that logic, Gronkowski and Vereen are garbage as well, because they have done nothing this season in 6 or so games.

The 'reality' is the Welker debate will not be decided in 6 games. It will be decided over the life of Amendola's contract. If Welker is good for only one season with the Broncos, and Amendola gets on the field and performs for more years, then this will be a good decision. This season so far, there is no comparison between the two. But last time I checked, a season is not 6 games. Anyone claiming 6 games does anything toward that debate is jumping the gun. We may as well have debated that point after all the accolades of game 1, stating "Welker who?". It is equally stupid. It is not blasphemy to critique the front office (I would ask why Woodhead got the boot for the price he commanded from the Bolts). It is just silly and factually lacking with more than half a season remaining.

Amendola has an injury history, and that has fueled the fire of his critics pointing out that his history is who he is. If he doesn't return and contribute, at least this year then he is not earning his pay and has proved the point for this season. Bad deal, at least this year. As numerous fans critiqued Welker as not being clutch in the post-season (another lame argument in my opinion), if Amendola has a great playoff series, then he is worth his pay if he helps the team to the next level. We aren't there yet. One clutch play in the playoffs forgives much that was lacking in the regular season. That is assuming he does little in the next 10 games.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Why the hell wasn't helmet to helmet called on that play BTW?

Same reason it wasn't called on Dobson he week before, the effing refs missed it, I smell a fine coming.

 

[AzPatsFan]

This thread is ridiculous. It was a helmet-to-helmet hit perpetrated by the defender. Is Amendola supposed to be concussion-proof? :bricks:

Some fans are only happy when they are criticizing others. Let Brady6 do his thing and simply ignore and humor him.

 

[mgcolby]

my buthole is itchy....I think I am going to scratch it. for some reason the thought of scratching my buthole and smelling my finger made me think of this thread. :confused2:

Our fan base sucks ass too. Funny folks at Fenway will stand every other pitch, yet the majority of the fans that go to Gillette can't figure out when to cheer and when not to cheer, and far to many people whine when you stand....A good chunk of our fanbase don't deserve this team. Every time I go home it is mind numbing how many people are negative about a football team that just wins at a 14-2 rate regularly.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

my buthole is itchy....I think I am going to scratch it. for some reason the thought of scratching my buthole and smelling my finger made me think of this thread. :confused2:

Our fan base sucks ass too. Funny folks at Fenway will stand every other pitch, yet the majority of the fans that go to Gillette can't figure out when to cheer and when not to cheer, and far to many people whine when you stand....A good chunk of our fanbase don't deserve this team. Every time I go home it is mind numbing how many people are negative about a football team that just wins at a 14-2 rate regularly.

we're fans...we nit pick even the great teams. If we didn't we wouldn't have this forum

 

[mgcolby]

we're fans...we nit pick even the great teams. If we didn't we wouldn't have this forum

If you call incessant whining nit picking, then sure... The problem I see, is far to many folks within our fan base, IMO, is they are only passionate about the Pats and not football in general and compare every Pats team to the 01, 03 and 04 teams. Instead of comparing them to the current competition around the NFL for the given year. Thus coming off sounding like ignorant whine asses. Its the only explanation I have been able to come up with to explain the general football ignorance displayed by a lot of Pats fans.

 

[varjao]

The play was well designed and executed but at the moment I saw him hitting in full speed against the defender having a history on that shoulder, I just though he could play a little bit smart, we are already crowded at the medical department.

 

[ProductOfASystem]

I find it amazing that Patriot fans, of all fans, are so demeaning of slot receivers, when it's the Patriots who made the position into what it is today through their use of the Brady to Welker connection. Suddenly every JAG WR can supposedly be turned into a HOF caliber slot receiver and Welker leading the league in 1st downs, catches, YAC, and nows TD's is just some jerk-off slot receiver who is easily replaced by any combine star who has a better 3 cone or short shuttle. The truth, at least imo, is that these guys are invaluable to their teams by keeping the chains moving and the defense off the field, as well as setting the offenses up for points and to dominate TOP. They take the worst punishment of any player on the field because they are generally smaller quicker players who operate in the middle of the field and take ungodly hits after routinely being sized up by safeties and LB's who see the play develop and make them pay dearly for making it.

I could understand criticizing Amendola if he didn't do the work and didn't care about the game enough to work his ass off to be out there, but to criticize a player like this for nothing more than getting hurt playing the slot in the NFL takes stupidity and ignorance to new and greater heights. Amendola is a really tough, really hardworking player who took a major shot to the head trying to get a key first down for the Patriots, and to attack him for that is actually pretty obscene. A thread wishing him a strong recovery would have been appropriate, players really deserve much much better than this.

Actually, it's from watching the Patriots so much that I have seen exactly how interchangeable slot receivers are. How many screens and quick hitches did/does Welker catch? A ton. How many dinky little underneath routes did/does Welker run? A ton.

Welker's strengths are his intangibles - toughness and durability. There's nothing he does with physical ability or skill that you can't find in a run-of-the-mill journeyman. He's not fast, he's not powerful, even for his size, he can't leap, he doesn't have soft hands. He's short, quick, and tough.

This is why I encourage the Patriots to stick with Edelman in the slot, and stop wasting their time with Amendola, who simply can't stay healthy. Edelman, though he's had some injury problems himself, seems like he might just be able to generally stay healthy for large chunks of time, at the very least. Physically, if anything, he's better than Welker. Better hands, better speed, better strength, better size, plenty quick.

 

[deters]

Same reason it wasn't called on Dobson he week before, the effing refs missed it, I smell a fine coming.

Only time helmet to helmet is called is when it's on a defenseless receiver, the defender hits with the crown of his helmet or a hit to the QB to the head. Amendola wasn't defenseless, nor was it a crown of the helmet, so it was a clean tackle.

 

[bostonia3333]

Welker is on pace for 20TDs this year. Amendola may not reach 20 receptions this year lool. He's been absolute garbage...even when he's been on the field this year, he either stinks it up with drops or poor route running.

 

[varjao]

Welker is on pace for 20TDs this year. Amendola may not reach 20 receptions this year lool. He's been absolute garbage...even when he's been on the field this year, he either stinks it up with drops or poor route running.

Let's be fair here, on the first game he came back even with that groin injury and made big plays, he had a big role on that victory

 

[Texxx]

Boy some people just don't get it. If Amendola didn't have a ton of injury concerns from previous seasons, no one would have created this thread. But it just so happens that he is injured again with his 2nd serious injury this season and we're not even at the halfway point. He hasn't contributed anything thus far. All of the critics that didn't like him as a replacement mainly due to his injury riddled history are just having their concerns substantiated and it sucks. This move made very little sense from management's perspective. Making a guy like Amendola your highest paid receiver is way to high of a risk and he's just a slot guy for god sakes.

 

[mgcolby]

Boy some people just don't get it. If Amendola didn't have a ton of injury concerns from previous seasons, no one would have created this thread. But it just so happens that he is injured again with his 2nd serious injury this season and we're not even at the halfway point. He hasn't contributed anything thus far. All of the critics that didn't like him as a replacement mainly due to his injury riddled history are just having their concerns substantiated and it sucks. This move made very little sense from management's perspective. Making a guy like Amendola your highest paid receiver is way to high of a risk and he's just a slot guy for god sakes.

He made two huge 3rd down catches over the middle in a crowd with a muscle seperated from his hip bone on a game winning drive.

To say he hasn't contributed anything thus far is simply not accurate.

 

[JMarr]

Actually, it's from watching the Patriots so much that I have seen exactly how interchangeable slot receivers are. How many screens and quick hitches did/does Welker catch? A ton. How many dinky little underneath routes did/does Welker run? A ton.

Welker's strengths are his intangibles - toughness and durability. There's nothing he does with physical ability or skill that you can't find in a run-of-the-mill journeyman. He's not fast, he's not powerful, even for his size, he can't leap, he doesn't have soft hands. He's short, quick, and tough.

This is why I encourage the Patriots to stick with Edelman in the slot, and stop wasting their time with Amendola, who simply can't stay healthy. Edelman, though he's had some injury problems himself, seems like he might just be able to generally stay healthy for large chunks of time, at the very least. Physically, if anything, he's better than Welker. Better hands, better speed, better strength, better size, plenty quick.

Yikes! Yea I guess that's why there are, um let's see...I count exactly... ZERO slot receivers in the NFL who have come anywhere close to producing like Welker. Edelman has been great so far this year, but that fact does little to support the assertion that slot receivers have become generally interchangeable.