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Should the Pats re-up Danny Woodhead?


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I don't think this is as obvious as it seems. Going by a pure numbers game, I think you have to pick 2 of Woodhead, Vereen, and Demps.

You're also assuming that Bolden doesn't, ahem, solve the problem in another way. . . .
 
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You're also assuming that Bolden doesn't, ahem, solve the problem in another way. . . .
If he screws up enough that his job is in jeopardy, then I think the Pats need to fill his spot with a similar-sized Ridley backup. I can't see them going into next season with Vereen as the second biggest RB on the roster, because if Ridley were to miss any time, then the Pats would lose every element of power in their running game. In the meantime, I'm going to hope that Bolden gets his head on straight, because he can definitely play.
 
I'm concerned at the pay Woodhead might demand
 
Don't see Woody being in demand and certainly will be a reasonable cost to keep.

I don't really know if Demps is going to make this team,he might end up finding it too difficult to acclimate to this pro game

Woody,Vereen,Ridley and maybe Bolden will return next year.....Demps and Bolden may vie for the 4th depth.
 
Of course you re-up him. He's like the Tebow of running backs. He's our Rudy man! Bad things will happen if we don't.
 
I think Ivan Fears will want somebody more veteran than Ridley will be a year from now.

However, one question is whether Woodhead, in his limited usage, has already taken a considerable share of the pounding he can endure over a career.
 
Woodhead to me is clearly more valuable to the team when the team is playing against big bruising type DLs like the Bills and he routinely struggles against smaller and faster type DLs like the Cardinals have.

I guess it maybe because those big guys are a bit slower to react to a guy half their size,but I think my theory does have some credence.
 
I think Ivan Fears will want somebody more veteran than Ridley will be a year from now.

However, one question is whether Woodhead, in his limited usage, has already taken a considerable share of the pounding he can endure over a career.

I think Woodhead is like Eli. Their bodies bend like rubber bands when they get hit. You can't break a rag doll by running into it.:D
 
Obviously the question is cost. If he wants to be paid like a #1 (or even #2) back, they will let him go and rely more on Vereen to fill that role. If he is fine being paid like a third down back to be a third down back, then great.
 
I think it would be a big mistake not to have him around next year.


Do not think he will cost a bomb to keep either. in big situations he comes up every time.
 
Woodhead is definitley one of the players whos "gets it". He is very smart and instinctive and great outlet outlet and understands everything the Pats offense is about.
 
I don't think this is as obvious as it seems. Going by a pure numbers game, I think you have to pick 2 of Woodhead, Vereen, and Demps. It wouldn't shock me to see four TEs on the opening day roster next year, and that's not including whoever end up playing FB, whether it be Larsen, Fiammetta (who reportedly needed a year off but intends to attempt to play next season), or someone else. Those roster spots need to come from somewhere, and five RBs seems like a waste when you only use one at a time (and occasionally none) and with Ridley as a pretty obvious lead guy. Most games this year, it's been a rotation of two or three RBs in any given game, not all four. That makes me think that five is overkill.

Now, if Vereen doesn't improve at all over the rest of this season, then the solution is pretty simple. Cut him, sign Woodhead, go with Ridley, Bolden, Woodhead, and Demps. Similar if they decide Demps can't play, but that's probably unlikely considering they'd have to resign Woodhead before they'll see Demps on the practice field.

But cutting Vereen in favor of Woodhead isn't as obvious as it might seem to come. Against the Jets, it was just about an even split of snaps between Vereen and Woodhead until Woodhead played and Vereen didn't on the last two drives. In the Rams game, the snap counts were basically equal. I don't know about this game, but I think the snaps favored Woodhead quite a bit. Either way, it's clear that Vereen has at least earned some of the snaps that would have been Woodhead's a year ago. We just don't know if part time third down back is Vereen's ceiling, or if he can continue to grow as a player. He's definitely got the body to be more of a well-rounded player than Woodhead, even if he hasn't shown that yet.

Ideally, they'd be able to sign Woodhead for a deal with not much guaranteed and then let everybody fight it out. Make Vereen show he can step up into the full time third down back role and make Demps show he's an upgrade at kick returner, and have Woodhead competing as well. But I don't know if there will be a market for Woodhead to sign somewhere where he won't have to compete for a job, which would make a lot more sense for him financially. The Pats are probably going to have to commit to either Woodhead or Vereen during the free agency period, meaning what we see from Vereen the rest of the season is very important.

He's on the 53 now. As long as you can figure out the $$, I dont see a roster or market competition issue with keeping both Woodhead and Vereen (isn't V still under rookie contract through next year too) through at least part of camp. the roster limit is 99 (or something ludicrous like that) for the start of camp. You can alway consider TRYING to trading one rb for future draft picks at the point where you think you have too many. There are too many injuries and guys who fall out for other reasons not to keep them around.
 
He's on the 53 now. As long as you can figure out the $$, I dont see a roster or market competition issue with keeping both Woodhead and Vereen (isn't V still under rookie contract through next year too) through at least part of camp. the roster limit is 99 (or something ludicrous like that) for the start of camp. You can alway consider TRYING to trading one rb for future draft picks at the point where you think you have too many. There are too many injuries and guys who fall out for other reasons not to keep them around.

The issue was the poster trying to find a space for Demps on the 2013 roster
 
The issue was the poster trying to find a space for Demps on the 2013 roster

I'm also wondering who they'll keep next year.

1. Ridley
2. Bolden
3. Vareen
4. Woodhead

5. Demps?? The Pats could really use an impact return man with his speed, but look at Woodheads numbers after 9 games.

425 all purpose yards, 4 tds. He is a perfect change of pace back to continur where Faulk left off.

Can we say Spencer Larsen is history? Is he on IR now ?
 
With the depth the Pats now have at RB, they don't need to try and force Woodhead to carry more of the load than his body should be expected to be able to absorb. He can now be the perfect 3rd down back for us, and the reduced load will increase his longevity.

I hope the Pats keep him around for a long time.
 
Vereen has shown nothing.
 
When you are committed to the principle of tandem backs having 5 on the roster isn't a stretch. Especially if one of them is really a third down back and receiving threat like Faulk was and Woody is becoming. And another is competing to be part of that regular rotation or it's functional depth. Demps then would be ideal if he can also play a significant role on ST as a kick and punt returner. Then you can toy with working him into the running and passing game situationally.

Hard as he reportedly works I think it's more likely a kid like Edelman is on the outside looking in, although I doubt either he or Woody will be looking for back breaking deals to stay. Edelman is more at risk of being axed out if the resign Wes or persue Amendola.

So yeah, Woodhead should be extended before his price increases.
 
When you are committed to the principle of tandem backs having 5 on the roster isn't a stretch. Especially if one of them is really a third down back and receiving threat like Faulk was and Woody is becoming. And another is competing to be part of that regular rotation or it's functional depth. Demps then would be ideal if he can also play a significant role on ST as a kick and punt returner. Then you can toy with working him into the running and passing game situationally.

Hard as he reportedly works I think it's more likely a kid like Edelman is on the outside looking in, although I doubt either he or Woody will be looking for back breaking deals to stay. Edelman is more at risk of being axed out if the resign Wes or persue Amendola.

So yeah, Woodhead should be extended before his price increases.

Edelgod will stay.

Vereen.... He has till the next TC
 
Hopefully a Demps is learning the playbook back and forth. Sign Woodhead, and let Vereen and Demps fight it out for the last spot. I'm a big Vereen fan, BUT, if Demps beats him out during the next Training Camp, so be it, adios Vereen.
 
hes going to need to want to stay.

There are teams in need of RB help(jets)that will pay him more then we will.
 
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