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If the coaching staff feels that they are better off waiting for an opposing quarterback to make a mistake, I can understand the logic - even though I disagree.

In my opinion the biggest problem has been that they have taken that philosophy to such an extreme that they have become way too predictable. Opponents have been able to game plan with the knowledge that the Pats blitz less often than any other team in the NFL.

The problem with their pass defense has been that the Pats are too predictable.

I tend to agree to an extent.
I think the basic conservative philosophy is reasonable and justified.
However, there have been many cases late in games (or halves) where that conservative D allowed 80 yard drives in 2 minutes.
I think it is situational, and depends upon the opponent.

I think people also have missed the reality that we have not been very effective when we blitz, and have allowed an awful lot of big plays when blitizing.
 
While I agree that it was very nice to see an occasional blitz something tells me that it was not implemented because of people like Felger and Mazz.



The Patriots attack what they perceive to be the major weakness of their opponent. On the Rams offense that was their offensive line and pass protection; on the Rams defense it was their safeties and outside linebackers in pass coverage.

I wonder what Mazz will complain about. They only scored 45 points!! It's unacceptable that they are settling for ANY field goals!!!! Does Gronk not care about his team!??! Why is he wasting time spiking mics instead of studying his playbook?
 
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Bottom line is that this team has the personnel in Spikes and Hightower to hit interior seams and cause serious havoc. Chung is another guy that can bring it with his quickness whether up the middle or even sneaking up off the edge. Those 3 guys if utilized correctly in some disguised schemes at certain times during the games can really impact this defense and to have them sit back in this soft zone, bend but don't break look isn't really utilizing their strengths. Chung can't cover anyone to save himself, but I know he can blitz, I've seen him do it.

Look, the DB's are getting beat anyway. We've hardly blitzed all year long and when we have and I go back to the Arizona game, when BB finally sent them late in the game when we desperately needed the ball back, it worked. We forced the QB into a hurry and bad throw, not once, but twice. We got the ball back. Then the blitz for some reason disappeard for the next 4 games and our secondary continued to get lit up. Why not utilize these young studs we have to get after it and get creative with the personnel we have ?

Sitting back isn't getting it done.
 
It was great to see a couple of Blitzes and Spikes seems to be very effective at it.

i will just say tho as a cautionary note, have a look at the production today vs the blitz especially in the run game. When Mayo particularly, blitz's the rb did have some big gainers. Also as someone mentioned earlier the only TD of the game came off a blitz.

That was more on wilson ho then the play call
 
It was great to see a couple of Blitzes and Spikes seems to be very effective at it.

i will just say tho as a cautionary note, have a look at the production today vs the blitz especially in the run game. When Mayo particularly, blitz's the rb did have some big gainers. Also as someone mentioned earlier the only TD of the game came off a blitz.

That was more on wilson ho then the play call

When you blitz and have fewer defenders in coverage you expand the area each defender must cover, increasing the chance of misplaying a route. Wilson had him inside and to the corner, and guessed wrong. Making him guess was a fucntion of the blitz.
 
Bottom line is that this team has the personnel in Spikes and Hightower to hit interior seams and cause serious havoc. Chung is another guy that can bring it with his quickness whether up the middle or even sneaking up off the edge. Those 3 guys if utilized correctly in some disguised schemes at certain times during the games can really impact this defense and to have them sit back in this soft zone, bend but don't break look isn't really utilizing their strengths. Chung can't cover anyone to save himself, but I know he can blitz, I've seen him do it.

Look, the DB's are getting beat anyway. We've hardly blitzed all year long and when we have and I go back to the Arizona game, when BB finally sent them late in the game when we desperately needed the ball back, it worked. We forced the QB into a hurry and bad throw, not once, but twice. We got the ball back. Then the blitz for some reason disappeard for the next 4 games and our secondary continued to get lit up. Why not utilize these young studs we have to get after it and get creative with the personnel we have ?

Sitting back isn't getting it done.

We have blitzed many times and had it picked up leaving the secondary screwed.
Blitizing and getting there helps the secondary. Blitzing and not getting there kills it.
Our success rate in getting there has not been real good this year.
 
Sitting back isn't getting it done.


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Unbelievable that it took a full week of talk show and news papers articles to finally tell BB and Matt P that yes, good things do happen when you disguise and blitz periodically at the right time. Let's keep this going, don't back off now.

Every time they blitzed today something good resulted from it, every time. Why did it take this long ?

Amendola was out
Givens got dinged
Bradford can tear you apart if you sit back, but he folds if you rush him
The Rams tackles suck, making it more likely that pressure would get to the QB
 
Playing a safe and conservative defense is absolutely asinine especially with our style of offense. When you play the conservative bend but dont break defense like we have been doing for quite some time, what you essentially do is keep Brady and our explosive offense off the field because opposing QB's can easily find the first downs due to soft coverage.

The mantra of our defensive philosophy should be the complete opposite. Make it extremely hard for them to get first downs due to constant pressure. Knowing that we have such a high octane offense means we can keep up with any team offensively. Defensively speaking, we can afford to take more risks even if that means giving up the big play!

The true enemy is, allowing opposing offenses to eat precious clock time with the hopes that they make mistakes as opposed to US creating them. In effect what you see are easy to read vanilla yet safe schemes. Yes we do risk the chance of getting beat with the big plays (but heck we have been getting beat with them regardless) but our offense has more than enough weapons to trade blow by blow if need to and more importantly the time to do it!

Bottom line: We need to effin blitz the crap out of every team here on out!! :rocker:
 
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Bradford can tear you apart if you sit back, but he folds if you rush him

Bradford is Sanchez?...
 
Bradford can tear you apart if you sit back, but he folds if you rush him

Bradford is Sanchez?...

Nah..... Sanchez with give you gifts whether you pressure him or not. He's atrocious at reading defenses.
 
I want no "gifts' from Mark Sanchez...ewwww...if I even SEE him in public I will run to the emergency room for antibiotic injections...I CANNOT WAIT for the NY Post back page
 
Bottom line is that this team has the personnel in Spikes and Hightower to hit interior seams and cause serious havoc. Chung is another guy that can bring it with his quickness whether up the middle or even sneaking up off the edge. Those 3 guys if utilized correctly in some disguised schemes at certain times during the games can really impact this defense and to have them sit back in this soft zone, bend but don't break look isn't really utilizing their strengths. Chung can't cover anyone to save himself, but I know he can blitz, I've seen him do it.

Chung did not play in that game. Neither did Gregory. Our secondary play also looked remarkably improved. Coincidence?

Look, the DB's are getting beat anyway. We've hardly blitzed all year long and when we have and I go back to the Arizona game, when BB finally sent them late in the game when we desperately needed the ball back, it worked. We forced the QB into a hurry and bad throw, not once, but twice. We got the ball back. Then the blitz for some reason disappeard for the next 4 games and our secondary continued to get lit up. Why not utilize these young studs we have to get after it and get creative with the personnel we have ?

Sitting back isn't getting it done.

I liked seeing the Pats aggressive approach on defense this game. Perhaps it took them time to build up the team to the point where they feel confident about blitzing? I see this as a building block game and look forward to seeing more of this in the future. Success builts confidence, which can lead to repetition of successful plays.

Once this defense has a 'feel' of what it is good at doing and goes to it more often and at the right times, I believe with the athleticism we have, this defensive unit could turn out very good overall. It is already stout against the run, it just needs to smooth out the kinks with the pass protection + pressure packages.
 
I've been screaming for this defense to blitz more and implement more schemes like this all season. People complain about BB not wanting to blitz because of the fear of the "secondary being exposed"..... :eek:

This secondary couldn't be exposed anymore than it already has been, why not blitz and help them out some. Good job.
 
I've been screaming for this defense to blitz more and implement more schemes like this all season. People complain about BB not wanting to blitz because of the fear of the "secondary being exposed"..... :eek:

This secondary couldn't be exposed anymore than it already has been, why not blitz and help them out some. Good job.

You do realize we blitzed in the first 7 games and were often burned when we did, right?
 
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Not to rain on your parade but the 50 yard TD pass was on a blitz.

Not to hail on your parade, but the other 50 yard TD passes every other week were not on blitzes.

might as well blitz and hit somebody if they are going to score on 50 yard pass TDs.
 
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Unbelievable that it took a full week of talk show and news papers articles to finally tell BB and Matt P that yes, good things do happen when you disguise and blitz periodically at the right time. Let's keep this going, don't back off now.

Every time they blitzed today something good resulted from it, every time. Why did it take this long ?

What part of "the Pats defensive scheming gets less vanilla as the season goes on" and "the number and types of blitz's BB and Patricia call depend mostly on game-planning for the opponent" the did you somehow miss? :confused: Been away for awhile?

These things are especially true this year with the youngest defense the Pats have had since I can remember. Barring major injuries the D is really going to be kicking azz when it counts the most.
 
We have blitzed many times and had it picked up leaving the secondary screwed.
Blitizing and getting there helps the secondary. Blitzing and not getting there kills it.
Our success rate in getting there has not been real good this year.

First thing that came to mind when I read the first post but I see you've said it a couple times in this thread. Im wondering if they'll be more aggressive once some of the younger guys get more experience and wont be as likely to miss their assignmment.
 
You do realize we blitzed in the first 7 games and were often burned when we did, right?

You're making it sound as if we have been getting killed by the blitz. This D blitzes on what something like 10% of it's snaps?

This D gets torched regardless. Personally i hope they start playing more aggressively.
 
the Pats blitzed four times against the Jets...each blitz was a success...I think there's some confusion here...bringing five is NOT a blitz...4 DL and a LB shooting a gap is NOT a blitz...a blitz brings at least SIX defensive players...until today,this tactic was underused IMO and in the opinions of most Pats fans...the Pats are 5-3 and at the break...today HAS to be considered a success
 
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