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Calm down Francis, Psycho.It was obviously a joke denoted be the :p

Francis/Psycho is a Stripes reference before you get all bent again.
Forgive me for not realizing what a witty guy you are with your little techno symbols. I'm guessing you're in middle school. And, believe me, if I'm going to "get all bent again", it sure won't be over anything your pre-teen mind cooks up. Grow the eff up.
 
the entire Boston press STILL hasn't found the way out of Francona's colon...meanwhile, the Valentine led Sawx have taken 3 straight from the Rays, the team that was a mystery to the "Blessed Ter" for 9 years....Bobby V is ruffling feathers just like BB did...I think he's got more in common with Beli than Francoma could ever dream of...
"Bobby V" is a self promoting, self aggrandizing loudmouth who never met a camera he didn't love and puts his foot in his mouth with considerable regularity.

In other words, he is nothing like Bill Belichick.
 
Forgive me for not realizing what a witty guy you are with your little techno symbols. I'm guessing you're in middle school. And, believe me, if I'm going to "get all bent again", it sure won't be over anything your pre-teen mind cooks up. Grow the eff up.

Yes Stripes is all the rage in middle school. Like I said lighten up.
 
Forgive me for not realizing what a witty guy you are with your little techno symbols. I'm guessing you're in middle school. And, believe me, if I'm going to "get all bent again", it sure won't be over anything your pre-teen mind cooks up. Grow the eff up.
Dude, relax. It was obviously a light hearted comment. I don't think anyone in here honestly believes that Tom Brady's family is going to suffer shame and dishonor for allowing Youkilis to marry into it.
 
Baseball is like watching pain dry...red sox = boring
 
the entire Boston press STILL hasn't found the way out of Francona's colon...meanwhile, the Valentine led Sawx have taken 3 straight from the Rays, the team that was a mystery to the "Blessed Ter" for 9 years....Bobby V is ruffling feathers just like BB did...I think he's got more in common with Beli than Francoma could ever dream of...

I don't remember BB or Kraft ever publicly criticizing a player which both Sox manager and owner have done.
 
THE COMMENT I RESPONDED TO was about 'problems' in the last 3 years being covered up by 2 World Series.
I am pointing out that given the history of the Red Sox, Terry Francona's tenure was an incredible success, and would have been if they went 0-162 in every season other than 04 and 07.

they play 162 games a season? For real? What a huge waste of time!
 
Looking around Boston's sports clubs, you have the old, slow Celtics, still got the fight and overachiveing to reach the playoffs this year,nothing but hearts showed by Rondo and Garnett, then you have the Hockey team who is on its quest to defend its titles, of course you have the stable franchaise in the Patriots, maybe the best managed, coached team of all sports of this era, period. Then you turn your head around, and you see the Boston Red Sox, you suddenly feel the urge to go to the bathroom, not to take a ****, but to THROW UP!! WTF is this ****? Compare to the other three boston teams, the red sox are worthless and looking like human excrement with a loud mouth coach just like Rex Ryan...with an owner has no clue in how to win or how to treat its former employee right...what a disgrace to all the boston sports!
 
Looking around Boston's sports clubs, you have the old, slow Celtics, still got the fight and overachiveing to reach the playoffs this year,nothing but hearts showed by Rondo and Garnett, then you have the Hockey team who is on its quest to defend its titles, of course you have the stable franchaise in the Patriots, maybe the best managed, coached team of all sports of this era, period. Then you turn your head around, and you see the Boston Red Sox, you suddenly feel the urge to go to the bathroom, not to take a ****, but to THROW UP!! WTF is this ****? Compare to the other three boston teams, the red sox are worthless and looking like human excrement with a loud mouth coach just like Rex Ryan...with an owner has no clue in how to win or how to treat its former employee right...what a disgrace to all the boston sports!

How do you account for the franchise that makes you want to vomit winning 2 championships since 04 when the one you call the best run of any sport won its last?
Not trashing the Patriots here, but pointing out that your comments about the Red Sox are pretty short sighted.
 
How do you account for the franchise that makes you want to vomit winning 2 championships since 04 when the one you call the best run of any sport won its last?
Not trashing the Patriots here, but pointing out that your comments about the Red Sox are pretty short sighted.

You know you keep repeating this "same franchise" stuff.

Francona isn't there. It's not the same team - - only to the mindless "I root for the laundry" crowd.

The Francona team no longer exists.

This team is run by Bobby Valentine.

We are discussing this regime.
 
Looking around Boston's sports clubs, you have the old, slow Celtics, still got the fight and overachiveing to reach the playoffs this year,nothing but hearts showed by Rondo and Garnett, then you have the Hockey team who is on its quest to defend its titles, of course you have the stable franchaise in the Patriots, maybe the best managed, coached team of all sports of this era, period. Then you turn your head around, and you see the Boston Red Sox, you suddenly feel the urge to go to the bathroom, not to take a ****, but to THROW UP!! WTF is this ****? Compare to the other three boston teams, the red sox are worthless and looking like human excrement with a loud mouth coach just like Rex Ryan...with an owner has no clue in how to win or how to treat its former employee right...what a disgrace to all the boston sports!

Given that the Red Sox were the best team in baseball for much of last year, despite the loss of multiple starting pitchers, I have to say that your position is a ridiculous one. It's one thing to point to September as a very disappointing month, but it's another thing entirely to act as if the Red Sox are "worthless". That's just a really ignorant take.
 
You know you keep repeating this "same franchise" stuff.

Francona isn't there. It's not the same team - - only to the mindless "I root for the laundry" crowd.

The Francona team no longer exists.

This team is run by Bobby Valentine.

We are discussing this regime.

Are "we"?
The Valentine team has played less than 1/16th of a season, the equivalent of 1 NFL game.
I am talking about results, not assigning negatvie results that haven't happened yet in order to criticize someone I don't like.
So 'we' are talking about different things.
 
Compare to the other three boston teams, the red sox are worthless and looking like human excrement with a loud mouth coach just like Rex Ryan...with an owner has no clue in how to win or how to treat its former employee right...what a disgrace to all the boston sports!
I think you're overestimating how the Bruins are run. They won a championship last year because they had a goalie perform better in the playoffs than I can ever think of any goalie performing in any playoff season, but they (and their owner) are far from the model, ideal sports franchise.
 
It amazes me that fans of a particular sports area appear to enjoy bashing other teams from the same area.
 
Look at the horrible, immature, managerial incompetence crap others have to put up with. Can there be a better comparison of the differences of true managerial leadership in the same market?

Youkilis 'confused' by Valentine remarks; manager apologizes - Extra Bases - Red Sox blog

Thank you, Bob Kraft and Bill Belichick.

The Globies must be gnashing their teeth while they cook up new ways to market the Sox and bash the Pats.

Give it a rest with this Patriot hero worship crap. It's so schoolgirl. :rolleyes:
Some of us real fans follow all the local teams, Pinky.
 
Look at the horrible, immature, managerial incompetence crap others have to put up with. Can there be a better comparison of the differences of true managerial leadership in the same market?

Thank you, Bob Kraft and Bill Belichick.

No, not really. Your fans are pretty lucky. But you have a lot of true fans that came from the hard days. NE fans have stuck to their team threw mostly hard times, and a few years on dominance and great coaching. As much as I admire Kraft,BB, Brady, and others.. I would really have to give the credit to your level headed fans that never gave up. You deserve this, and it has to be fun.
 
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ooops...sawree...I offended the GBOT brigade (GOD BLESS OUR TER!!!)...everyone is entitled to their opinion...if you find that leaving starting pitchers in for 6 + runs in 25 games and LOSING 24 of them or 2-10 starts followed by 7-20 finishes is your idea of fantastic success...well...I have to say I feel the other way about it. If you think "Ter WON the World Series!!!" all I can say is, the Red Sox won two world series IN SPITE of Francoma's horrible game management and should have won at least TWO more during his "tenure". If you think Alex Cora is an everyday player as a sub getting 400 AB's a season, I think you need to read a book on what major league talent really is.

It's pretty easy to be the blind squirrel that finds that WS acorn when you are given the SECOND LARGEST payroll in MLB to work with, two monster 3 and 4 hitters in their prime with one of the best clutch leadoff hitters at the top in Damon heading up a murderers row...and proven big game vets like Schills pitching gems...your blessed Ter actually managed to get them in as a wild card...whoop dee freakin' doo...here's what I want all you die hard Francona worshippers to do...ask any ONE of the 8 million rabid Philly fans why they HATE every atom and molecule of Francona's existence to this day...and then ask YOURSELF why you are a fan of the manager instead of a fan of the TEAM.

I didn't particularly like the Valentine hiring...I thought Lucchino forced him on Ben Cherington...I think Bobby has flapped his gums a couple of times so far and it has given the College Of Cona Colon Cleaners the crack they have been waiting for to vent their anger...but at least Valentine is a proven in game major league manager who will use whatever means are at his disposal to win games, as opposed to just sitting there spitting seeds and watching Joe Madden treat your team like his personal biatch every single season and then smooth everything over in the media and with fans by invoking "Gosh!!!" twenty or thirty times in the post game and reading off the lineup in a five year old's litany of "well Pedey and Youky and Gonzy and Tekky and Salty and Elsy and Poppy and Geeky and Gooky and Goozy and Gaga and Dweezil and Drewzy and <spits>...(then does that annoying *nick* inhale sound followed by...you guessed it...GOSH!!!)....th8is ham and egg act really played well in Pink Hat Sox land the past few years...I'm a die hard Sox fan since Jackie Jensen won the MVP in '58 and I've seen some real rock heads manage the Old Towne Team and still find success in some form...in fact if Johnny Mac or Darrell Johnson had this payroll I'd be willing to bet they would have done BETTER than Goshcona...but that is a question that cannot ever be answered.

So...keep on being miserable and forlorn at the loss of your heroCona from the managerial post of the Boston Red Sox...and I'll continue to be a Red Sox fan first..and we'll all be happy...and in a few years when some desperate team makes a mistake and actually offers the Blessed Ter another chance, you can all follow him there and resume church services.
 
heh...now THAT is a solid Joe Kerr rant and rave right there, folks..
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ooops...sawree...I offended the GBOT brigade (GOD BLESS OUR TER!!!)...everyone is entitled to their opinion...if you find that leaving starting pitchers in for 6 + runs in 25 games and LOSING 24 of them or 2-10 starts followed by 7-20 finishes is your idea of fantastic success...well...I have to say I feel the other way about it. If you think "Ter WON the World Series!!!" all I can say is, the Red Sox won two world series IN SPITE of Francoma's horrible game management and should have won at least TWO more during his "tenure". If you think Alex Cora is an everyday player as a sub getting 400 AB's a season, I think you need to read a book on what major league talent really is.

It's pretty easy to be the blind squirrel that finds that WS acorn when you are given the SECOND LARGEST payroll in MLB to work with, two monster 3 and 4 hitters in their prime with one of the best clutch leadoff hitters at the top in Damon heading up a murderers row...and proven big game vets like Schills pitching gems...your blessed Ter actually managed to get them in as a wild card...whoop dee freakin' doo...here's what I want all you die hard Francona worshippers to do...ask any ONE of the 8 million rabid Philly fans why they HATE every atom and molecule of Francona's existence to this day...and then ask YOURSELF why you are a fan of the manager instead of a fan of the TEAM.

I didn't particularly like the Valentine hiring...I thought Lucchino forced him on Ben Cherington...I think Bobby has flapped his gums a couple of times so far and it has given the College Of Cona Colon Cleaners the crack they have been waiting for to vent their anger...but at least Valentine is a proven in game major league manager who will use whatever means are at his disposal to win games, as opposed to just sitting there spitting seeds and watching Joe Madden treat your team like his personal biatch every single season and then smooth everything over in the media and with fans by invoking "Gosh!!!" twenty or thirty times in the post game and reading off the lineup in a five year old's litany of "well Pedey and Youky and Gonzy and Tekky and Salty and Elsy and Poppy and Geeky and Gooky and Goozy and Gaga and Dweezil and Drewzy and <spits>...(then does that annoying *nick* inhale sound followed by...you guessed it...GOSH!!!)....th8is ham and egg act really played well in Pink Hat Sox land the past few years...I'm a die hard Sox fan since Jackie Jensen won the MVP in '58 and I've seen some real rock heads manage the Old Towne Team and still find success in some form...in fact if Johnny Mac or Darrell Johnson had this payroll I'd be willing to bet they would have done BETTER than Goshcona...but that is a question that cannot ever be answered.

So...keep on being miserable and forlorn at the loss of your heroCona from the managerial post of the Boston Red Sox...and I'll continue to be a Red Sox fan first..and we'll all be happy...and in a few years when some desperate team makes a mistake and actually offers the Blessed Ter another chance, you can all follow him there and resume church services.

Nice rant.
Let me rephrase the only opinion I have added in this thread.
If the day Francona was hired you were told the Red Sox would win 2 World Series before he was done, there is absolutely no way you would ask what would happen in the other years before taking that deal as quickly as you could.
I could care less who gets credit, who it was done in spite of, or what happened surrounding those Championships.
The comment I responded too was the the problems of the last 3 years are hidden by 2 WS titles, and I think anyone who says they wouldn't have taken 3 years of the 61 Mets in order to get those 2 WS titles is lying, or recreating history.
 
ooops...sawree...I offended the GBOT brigade (GOD BLESS OUR TER!!!)...everyone is entitled to their opinion...if you find that leaving starting pitchers in for 6 + runs in 25 games and LOSING 24 of them or 2-10 starts followed by 7-20 finishes is your idea of fantastic success...well...I have to say I feel the other way about it. If you think "Ter WON the World Series!!!" all I can say is, the Red Sox won two world series IN SPITE of Francoma's horrible game management and should have won at least TWO more during his "tenure". If you think Alex Cora is an everyday player as a sub getting 400 AB's a season, I think you need to read a book on what major league talent really is.

It's pretty easy to be the blind squirrel that finds that WS acorn when you are given the SECOND LARGEST payroll in MLB to work with, two monster 3 and 4 hitters in their prime with one of the best clutch leadoff hitters at the top in Damon heading up a murderers row...and proven big game vets like Schills pitching gems...your blessed Ter actually managed to get them in as a wild card...whoop dee freakin' doo...here's what I want all you die hard Francona worshippers to do...ask any ONE of the 8 million rabid Philly fans why they HATE every atom and molecule of Francona's existence to this day...and then ask YOURSELF why you are a fan of the manager instead of a fan of the TEAM.

I didn't particularly like the Valentine hiring...I thought Lucchino forced him on Ben Cherington...I think Bobby has flapped his gums a couple of times so far and it has given the College Of Cona Colon Cleaners the crack they have been waiting for to vent their anger...but at least Valentine is a proven in game major league manager who will use whatever means are at his disposal to win games, as opposed to just sitting there spitting seeds and watching Joe Madden treat your team like his personal biatch every single season and then smooth everything over in the media and with fans by invoking "Gosh!!!" twenty or thirty times in the post game and reading off the lineup in a five year old's litany of "well Pedey and Youky and Gonzy and Tekky and Salty and Elsy and Poppy and Geeky and Gooky and Goozy and Gaga and Dweezil and Drewzy and <spits>...(then does that annoying *nick* inhale sound followed by...you guessed it...GOSH!!!)....th8is ham and egg act really played well in Pink Hat Sox land the past few years...I'm a die hard Sox fan since Jackie Jensen won the MVP in '58 and I've seen some real rock heads manage the Old Towne Team and still find success in some form...in fact if Johnny Mac or Darrell Johnson had this payroll I'd be willing to bet they would have done BETTER than Goshcona...but that is a question that cannot ever be answered.

So...keep on being miserable and forlorn at the loss of your heroCona from the managerial post of the Boston Red Sox...and I'll continue to be a Red Sox fan first..and we'll all be happy...and in a few years when some desperate team makes a mistake and actually offers the Blessed Ter another chance, you can all follow him there and resume church services.

Let me put it this way, so you'll understand exactly why I find your rant to be one of the sillier things you've posted. It'll be succinct:

Grady Little and Pedro
 
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