The Official Brady sucks and the defense has been carrying him Thread

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

So are you saying its fine to be one dimensional, that a team can go far with just a passing attack? I just want to get this straight, because thats what it sounds like.

The "one dimensional" concept is just as dumb as the "our defense sucks" mantra.

Ya pass when you need to pass, ya run when you need to run.

During the course of a 16 game schedule, there will be stretches where the offense will be out of synch.

Just don't turn the ball over. An elite offense will get it together.

Who are the dummies that look at the Giants game and can't comprehend the final four drives FG/TD/FG/TD.

Ya, it's that simple.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Brady must be perfect, he needs every throw in the right spot on the right time, he dosnt have the whole field to throw, he have WR\TE's that "spread" the field for like 15-20 yard, that makes him to throw a PERFECT pass ALL the time or its a Turnover\incomplition.

by the way, our D is still terrible, yes they had a great game last night but it was agains freakin' mark sanchez, if it was a good- QB he was burning our D all night long.

Why are you talking to me?

The village idiots are over there. Misery loves company.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

The "one dimensional" concept is just as dumb as the "our defense sucks" mantra.

Ya pass when you need to pass, ya run when you need to run.

During the course of a 16 game schedule, there will be stretches where the offense will be out of synch.

Just don't turn the ball over. An elite offense will get it together.

Who are the dummies that look at the Giants game and can't comprehend the final four drives FG/TD/FG/TD.

Ya, it's that simple.

Who are the dummies that look at the Gaints game as an offensive success when they score only 20 pts, do nothing for 3 quarters, spark up for 17 in the 4th qtr and lose at home? The Patriots weren't falling behind in the Giant game yet Brady was throwing picks all over the place and and attempting 49 passes for the game. The TO's came and come because the Patriots slip into their "Colting" mode instead of playing a patient ball control/run/screen game. Give it time. You'll figure it out.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

So are you saying its fine to be one dimensional, that a team can go far with just a passing attack? I just want to get this straight, because thats what it sounds like.

I'm saying that matchups and game situations dictate what it takes to win and conversely how far you go. You and Rhody and Psycho can waste your time banging your head against a brick wall in search of statistical balance. It all boils down to execution and matchups. The JETS wanted us to run the damn ball for a reason. That was the only legit shot they had at winning other than hoping for uncharacteristic mistakes. Bill will tell you they want to run the ball, but most of all they want to score enough points to win the damn game... I'd love this team to be 3 dimensional. But for me that means capable of playing complimentary situational football. I'm more concerned that our ST has been less than special this season. With your back up against the goal line and facing 80-90+ yard fields on a team struggling to field a cohesive pass defense, you don't take the ball out of the hands of your most impactful player (and in effect players) on misguided principle.

Bill has a defensive game plan in the HOF based on allowing an opponent to run the damn ball.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Who are the dummies that look at the Gaints game as an offensive success when they score only 20 pts, do nothing for 3 quarters, spark up for 17 in the 4th qtr and lose at home? The Patriots weren't falling behind in the Giant game yet Brady was throwing picks all over the place and and attempting 49 passes for the game. The TO's came and come because the Patriots slip into their "Colting" mode instead of playing a patient ball control/run/screen game. Give it time. You'll figure it out.

Have you ever looked at stats for the entire history of the NFL?

Here's reality.

Every drive doesn't end in a score. Every offense goes through stretches where it's out of synch.

Look at the Giants game

Missed chip shot FG

INT in scoring range

Fumble on the 10.

Eliminate mistakes and it a minmum two score game.

 

[FalconHeavy]

Who are the dummies that look at the Gaints game as an offensive success when they score only 20 pts, do nothing for 3 quarters, spark up for 17 in the 4th qtr and lose at home? The Patriots weren't falling behind in the Giant game yet Brady was throwing picks all over the place and and attempting 49 passes for the game. The TO's came and come because the Patriots slip into their "Colting" mode instead of playing a patient ball control/run/screen game. Give it time. You'll figure it out.

yesterday, the last TD drive was a classic example. When JETS brought in 7 DBs, we ran ran and ran some more. When they changed up with LBs we started passing. its the BALANCE that people ask for and to be fair TFB was very patient in that drive and took what D gave him instead of forcing the ball all over the field !

 

[pherein]

I thought Drew Brees was your best friend?

lol, no Saint Breesus is the second coming. The world was suppose to end after he delivered us and we won the SB, but everyone was to drunk, um and we still are.

 

[Deus Irae]

Hate to inform you of this "Lifer" but that's exactly what they did.

Patriots offense last 3 games

Pitt loss = 12 run 35 pass
NYG loss = 24 run 49 pass
Jets win = 28 run 39 pass

1st Jets win = 35 run 33 pass

When the Patriots run a BALANCED offense they win.
When the Patriots morph into Peyton Brady and the Colts they struggle.

Patriots 2nd to last drive - 7 runs, 7 passes
Patriots last drive (post pick-6) - 5 runs, 1 pass

So, prior to those last two drives, the Patriots run/pass numbers were 16 runs and 31 passes, or roughly 2:1 passing.*



* Any miscount was purely unintentional

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Patriots 2nd to last drive - 7 runs, 7 passes
Patriots last drive (post pick-6) - 5 runs, 1 pass

So, prior to those last two drives, the Patriots run/pass numbers were 16 runs and 21 passes, or roughly 2:1 passing.*



* Any miscount was purely unintentional

16 runs/21 passes is roughly a 2:1 passing ratio?? Really??


Deus, what would the ratio be if it was 16 runs/32 passes??

Scary!

(pssst, 16 runs/21 passes is a pretty balanced offensive ratio)

 

[Deus Irae]

16 runs/21 passes is roughly a 2:1 passing ratio?? Really??


Deus, what would the ratio be if it was 16 runs/32 passes??

Scary!

(pssst, 16 runs/21 passes is a pretty balanced offensive ratio)

Excuse me for the typo.... it was 16 runs and 31 passes. I'll edit the earlier post. As I stated, it was basically a 2:1 pass to run ratio until the Patriots' last two drives.

 

[everlong]

I have Michael Bishop on hold. Should I tell him this was a false alarm or a test of we've had it too good for too long network?

 

[BradyManny]

If anyone is pointing to last nite's game as an example as to how this team is better without the ball in Brady's hands - as PP has been intimating of late - they'd have to be kidding me.

We couldn't run the ball at all until we went no huddle. And even then, we were able to run due to the opponents respect of our passing offense, our ability to get ideal personnel on the field, and Brady's ability to identify good situations to run in.

I'd love to have a better running game. I really would. I'd love to see this team go jumbo at times and use its multiple TEs and extra OL - and they do at times, depending upon the opponent.

But outside of the Cassel year, I can really only think of one game in the past few years in which the running game truly bailed out the passing attack, and that was the 2007 AFCCG. For the most part, we run off of the passing game, and its a complimentary attack.

When we have balanced numbers, it's often because we were able to run a lot in the 4th after getting up big. Like last nite.

 

[Satchboogie3]

This "balance" crap gets REALLY irritating. The key to being a successful offense is rather simple: pick plays that attack the defenses weakness/holes, put the ball in your playmakers hands with good matchups, and execute. Sometimes it means running the ball a ton, sometimes it means perfect balance, sometimes it means an aerial assualt. It comes down to those three things. The Patriots strength is clearly their passing game. They have one of the greatest QBs in history, arguably the best WR in football right now, and dangerous and versatile TEs.

Lets just break down this season game by game:
Week 1 @ Dolphins
1st Drive: down 0-7 on first possession
3 pass attempts, 3 completed for 64 yards
3 runs for 9 yards including a 4 yard TD run.
TD run is standard, first and goal on the 4, you run. The first run was for 2 yards after a penalty giving them 2nd and 2. You could argue it set up the run, but the 2nd and short situation is generally a 'could run, could go for a pig play' situation, so you really didn't/don't need to set anything up. The other run (a first down run) was for 2 yards and the following 2 plays then came out of the shotgun, so again, not setting anything up. \

2nd Drive: game still tied
5 passing attempts, 5 completed for 63 yards, TD pass
2 rushes for 7 yards, both came late in the drive and on first downs.

3rd Drive: 14-7
7 passing attempts, 3 completed for 25 yards
4 rushs for 24 yards.
Punt. What killed the drive: 1st down penalty on 84, 1st-15, 1st down incomplete mid-pass, 2nd-15 deep pass attempt to Gronk (should have been completed, was the right decision), 3rd-15 7-yard short pass to Branch. I have no problem with how the drive unfolded. Suggesting we should have run on that last drive is all hindsight, there are many many many 3 down sets where you just run or just pass, throwing on 1st and 2nd down is perfectly fine in that situation and the long bomb on 2nd is a risk/reward assessment where the times it's completely likely out-way the times it isn't and you are put in 3rd and long.

4th drive: 14-7
3 and out. First down 1 yard run by Woodhead, 2 incomplete short passes to Welker. This was one of the spots where Welker missed what should have been a fairly standard catch that would have given us a first down.

5th drive: 14-7 2-minute drill with 2 TO
Missed FG attempt at end of 1st half
5 passes attempted, 4 completed for 59 yards
1 run for 9 yards (minus a QB scramble and sack)
What killed the drive: 1st and 10, Ocho not being on the same page and missing a pass. 2nd and 10, completed pass that would have been 1st and goal at the 1, but a penalty puts us at 2nd and 20 instead. Sack and missed field goal.

Halftime stats:
22 passing attempts, 15 completed for 211 yards
11 runs for 50 yards.

66% passing attempts, 14 points on 5 drives with 2 drives killed by penalties.

2nd half:
1st drive - Brady throws a pick on 2nd play. **** happens, bad break on a tipped screen pass of the TEs hands.

2nd drive: 14-14
7 passing attempts, 5 completed for 47 yards
3 runs for 22 yards.
TD scored (pass)

3rd drive: 21-17
6 passing attempts, 6 completed for 76 yards
2 runs for 13 yards
TD scored (pass)

4th drive: 28-17
6 passing attempts, 4 completed for 58 yards
2 runs for 4 yards
FG

5th drive: 3 and out. 1st and 10 incomplete pass, 2nd and 10 - 4 yard run by woodhead, 3rd and 6, incomplete pass. Standard, **** happens.

6th drive:31-17
1st play: 99 yard TD pass to Welker

7th drive: 38-24
3 and out with an incomplete pass on 3rd and 1. Should have ran? Probably.

Game Stats:
48 passing attempts for 517 yards
22 runs for 106 yards

69% pass. Yes, running was successful and there was one or two spots where clearly the play-action worked well, but more than anything, the Dolphins couldn't stop the passing game, thus we stuck with it. It's all about the matchups and in this game, that was Welker and our TE.

This sort of split (pass-run ratio) and passing success has been fairly common with the team, the difference here is that it was a close enough game until the end so we kept throwing the ball and had enough success that there wasn't a reason to run a whole lot. Why fix what's not broken?

My next post I'll dissect how balance played out in our losses the last 2 seasons, first in quick glance and then maybe in more detail.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

This "balance" crap gets REALLY irritating. The key to being a successful offense is rather simple: pick plays that attack the defenses weakness/holes, put the ball in your playmakers hands with good matchups, and execute. Sometimes it means running the ball a ton, sometimes it means perfect balance, sometimes it means an aerial assualt. It comes down to those three things. The Patriots strength is clearly their passing game. They have one of the greatest QBs in history, arguably the best WR in football right now, and dangerous and versatile TEs.

Lets just break down this season game by game:
Week 1 @ Dolphins
1st Drive: down 0-7 on first possession
3 pass attempts, 3 completed for 64 yards
3 runs for 9 yards including a 4 yard TD run.
TD run is standard, first and goal on the 4, you run. The first run was for 2 yards after a penalty giving them 2nd and 2. You could argue it set up the run, but the 2nd and short situation is generally a 'could run, could go for a pig play' situation, so you really didn't/don't need to set anything up. The other run (a first down run) was for 2 yards and the following 2 plays then came out of the shotgun, so again, not setting anything up. \

2nd Drive: game still tied
5 passing attempts, 5 completed for 63 yards, TD pass
2 rushes for 7 yards, both came late in the drive and on first downs.

3rd Drive: 14-7
7 passing attempts, 3 completed for 25 yards
4 rushs for 24 yards.
Punt. What killed the drive: 1st down penalty on 84, 1st-15, 1st down incomplete mid-pass, 2nd-15 deep pass attempt to Gronk (should have been completed, was the right decision), 3rd-15 7-yard short pass to Branch. I have no problem with how the drive unfolded. Suggesting we should have run on that last drive is all hindsight, there are many many many 3 down sets where you just run or just pass, throwing on 1st and 2nd down is perfectly fine in that situation and the long bomb on 2nd is a risk/reward assessment where the times it's completely likely out-way the times it isn't and you are put in 3rd and long.

4th drive: 14-7
3 and out. First down 1 yard run by Woodhead, 2 incomplete short passes to Welker. This was one of the spots where Welker missed what should have been a fairly standard catch that would have given us a first down.

5th drive: 14-7 2-minute drill with 2 TO
Missed FG attempt at end of 1st half
5 passes attempted, 4 completed for 59 yards
1 run for 9 yards (minus a QB scramble and sack)
What killed the drive: 1st and 10, Ocho not being on the same page and missing a pass. 2nd and 10, completed pass that would have been 1st and goal at the 1, but a penalty puts us at 2nd and 20 instead. Sack and missed field goal.

Halftime stats:
22 passing attempts, 15 completed for 211 yards
11 runs for 50 yards.

66% passing attempts, 14 points on 5 drives with 2 drives killed by penalties.

2nd half:
1st drive - Brady throws a pick on 2nd play. **** happens, bad break on a tipped screen pass of the TEs hands.

2nd drive: 14-14
7 passing attempts, 5 completed for 47 yards
3 runs for 22 yards.
TD scored (pass)

3rd drive: 21-17
6 passing attempts, 6 completed for 76 yards
2 runs for 13 yards
TD scored (pass)

4th drive: 28-17
6 passing attempts, 4 completed for 58 yards
2 runs for 4 yards
FG

5th drive: 3 and out. 1st and 10 incomplete pass, 2nd and 10 - 4 yard run by woodhead, 3rd and 6, incomplete pass. Standard, **** happens.

6th drive:31-17
1st play: 99 yard TD pass to Welker

7th drive: 38-24
3 and out with an incomplete pass on 3rd and 1. Should have ran? Probably.

Game Stats:
48 passing attempts for 517 yards
22 runs for 106 yards

69% pass. Yes, running was successful and there was one or two spots where clearly the play-action worked well, but more than anything, the Dolphins couldn't stop the passing game, thus we stuck with it. It's all about the matchups and in this game, that was Welker and our TE.

This sort of split (pass-run ratio) and passing success has been fairly common with the team, the difference here is that it was a close enough game until the end so we kept throwing the ball and had enough success that there wasn't a reason to run a whole lot. Why fix what's not broken?

My next post I'll dissect how balance played out in our losses the last 2 seasons, first in quick glance and then maybe in more detail.

Uhh, exactly

Now we know what name Yoda posts under

 

[Snake Eyes]

This "balance" crap gets REALLY irritating. The key to being a successful offense is rather simple: pick plays that attack the defenses weakness/holes, put the ball in your playmakers hands with good matchups, and execute. Sometimes it means running the ball a ton, sometimes it means perfect balance, sometimes it means an aerial assualt. It comes down to those three things. The Patriots strength is clearly their passing game. They have one of the greatest QBs in history, arguably the best WR in football right now, and dangerous and versatile TEs.

Lets just break down this season game by game:
Week 1 @ Dolphins
1st Drive: down 0-7 on first possession
3 pass attempts, 3 completed for 64 yards
3 runs for 9 yards including a 4 yard TD run.
TD run is standard, first and goal on the 4, you run. The first run was for 2 yards after a penalty giving them 2nd and 2. You could argue it set up the run, but the 2nd and short situation is generally a 'could run, could go for a pig play' situation, so you really didn't/don't need to set anything up. The other run (a first down run) was for 2 yards and the following 2 plays then came out of the shotgun, so again, not setting anything up. \

2nd Drive: game still tied
5 passing attempts, 5 completed for 63 yards, TD pass
2 rushes for 7 yards, both came late in the drive and on first downs.

3rd Drive: 14-7
7 passing attempts, 3 completed for 25 yards
4 rushs for 24 yards.
Punt. What killed the drive: 1st down penalty on 84, 1st-15, 1st down incomplete mid-pass, 2nd-15 deep pass attempt to Gronk (should have been completed, was the right decision), 3rd-15 7-yard short pass to Branch. I have no problem with how the drive unfolded. Suggesting we should have run on that last drive is all hindsight, there are many many many 3 down sets where you just run or just pass, throwing on 1st and 2nd down is perfectly fine in that situation and the long bomb on 2nd is a risk/reward assessment where the times it's completely likely out-way the times it isn't and you are put in 3rd and long.

4th drive: 14-7
3 and out. First down 1 yard run by Woodhead, 2 incomplete short passes to Welker. This was one of the spots where Welker missed what should have been a fairly standard catch that would have given us a first down.

5th drive: 14-7 2-minute drill with 2 TO
Missed FG attempt at end of 1st half
5 passes attempted, 4 completed for 59 yards
1 run for 9 yards (minus a QB scramble and sack)
What killed the drive: 1st and 10, Ocho not being on the same page and missing a pass. 2nd and 10, completed pass that would have been 1st and goal at the 1, but a penalty puts us at 2nd and 20 instead. Sack and missed field goal.

Halftime stats:
22 passing attempts, 15 completed for 211 yards
11 runs for 50 yards.

66% passing attempts, 14 points on 5 drives with 2 drives killed by penalties.

2nd half:
1st drive - Brady throws a pick on 2nd play. **** happens, bad break on a tipped screen pass of the TEs hands.

2nd drive: 14-14
7 passing attempts, 5 completed for 47 yards
3 runs for 22 yards.
TD scored (pass)

3rd drive: 21-17
6 passing attempts, 6 completed for 76 yards
2 runs for 13 yards
TD scored (pass)

4th drive: 28-17
6 passing attempts, 4 completed for 58 yards
2 runs for 4 yards
FG

5th drive: 3 and out. 1st and 10 incomplete pass, 2nd and 10 - 4 yard run by woodhead, 3rd and 6, incomplete pass. Standard, **** happens.

6th drive:31-17
1st play: 99 yard TD pass to Welker

7th drive: 38-24
3 and out with an incomplete pass on 3rd and 1. Should have ran? Probably.

Game Stats:
48 passing attempts for 517 yards
22 runs for 106 yards

69% pass. Yes, running was successful and there was one or two spots where clearly the play-action worked well, but more than anything, the Dolphins couldn't stop the passing game, thus we stuck with it. It's all about the matchups and in this game, that was Welker and our TE.

This sort of split (pass-run ratio) and passing success has been fairly common with the team, the difference here is that it was a close enough game until the end so we kept throwing the ball and had enough success that there wasn't a reason to run a whole lot. Why fix what's not broken?

My next post I'll dissect how balance played out in our losses the last 2 seasons, first in quick glance and then maybe in more detail.

In other words "balance" is relative, referring to what gives you the optimal tactical situation rather than a pre-defined ratio?

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I used to think Tom Brady was one of the top 3 QBs in the NFL and one of the top 5 to ever play the game. I used to think the Patriots defense was horrible and that only Brady was keeping them a contender. But knowledgable Patriots fans have turned me around on this. Despite the heroic efforts of our rock solid defense the last few years Tom Brady has held the Patriots back with his sloppy play. I say enough excuses. This organization has given Tom Brady a great defense, terrific receivers,and the best set of running backs in the league and its time to start producing, otherwise it may be time to give Mr Hoyer a shot.

How's that working out for ya? :bricks::bricks:

 

[Satchboogie3]

In other words "balance" is relative, referring to what gives you the optimal tactical situation rather than a pre-defined ratio?

I don't believe in balance and neither does Belichick. I forget the exact quote, but I remember Belichick talking about how when building a team he isn't looking to "balance" talent between defense and offense, etc. He's trying to make the best overall team. It's no different for offensive play calling. You call the best play in the given situation, sometimes it's a pass, sometimes it's a run. You can't just look at the box score though and go "they didn't run enough" or "28 points in a half, 30 pass, 20 runs. See, balance!" because you're ignoring the situations and Football IS situations. Stats are meaningless and misleading when you don't understand their limitation.

I think the biggest issue is people like to throw around stat and percentages for what "balanced" should be and stick to it like some golden rule. I do agree that often enough getting a team to commit or at least think about one thing can leave them exposed to something else. The most common is the simple: run to open up the pass. You get more of the defense up towards the LOS and try to get the safeties to think run when it's a pass, etc. That's just ONE example of exposing and confusing a defense. Sometimes it's the opposite, they have the mid and deep passing game defended so you have to attack the short field and run the ball to move the ball and maybe get the defense to give up some of the deep field. If/when they do that, then you can expose them vertically. Again, that's just one very simple and common example.

The point is that you want to expose the weakness of the defense. Most of the time that's match up based with your skill-players. Welker matched up on someone who can't keep up with his cuts. A LB that can't cover Gronk. A ROLB that has trouble identifying the run, a weakened right side of the defensive line. A CB who has trouble making a play on the ball when he doesn't have help, maybe he bites on certain double moves, etc etc etc.

It's about calling the right plays the put the ball in the right players hands. Then the players have to actually execute. It's not so stupidly simple as "Oh, we need to run x amount and pass y amount and then were unstoppable".

Another big factor that often messes with the "balance" idea is line play. If you're offensive line can't block, you aren't doing anything, whether you're calling runs or screens. True, if you telegraph that you are just running or passing, it can make it easier on the d-line and harder on the o-line, but that isn't always true and certainly isn't always a problem.

 

[Patspsycho]

I'm saying that matchups and game situations dictate what it takes to win and conversely how far you go. You and Rhody and Psycho can waste your time banging your head against a brick wall in search of statistical balance. It all boils down to execution and matchups. The JETS wanted us to run the damn ball for a reason. That was the only legit shot they had at winning other than hoping for uncharacteristic mistakes. Bill will tell you they want to run the ball, but most of all they want to score enough points to win the damn game... I'd love this team to be 3 dimensional. But for me that means capable of playing complimentary situational football. I'm more concerned that our ST has been less than special this season. With your back up against the goal line and facing 80-90+ yard fields on a team struggling to field a cohesive pass defense, you don't take the ball out of the hands of your most impactful player (and in effect players) on misguided principle.

Bill has a defensive game plan in the HOF based on allowing an opponent to run the damn ball.

Why would I bang my head against the wall when the numbers speak for themselves? Clearly I offended you by daring to question Brady's competence in the past few games, until the 2nd half last night when he snapped out of his funk.

As Bill Walsh says, if you want to get to the superbowl, you must be able to win in more than one way.

You keep saying we don't need balance, Brady can do all the work- and guess what? He's been doing all the work since 2007 and see what has happened? We've done jack **** in the playoffs since then.

 

[Patspsycho]

I don't believe in balance and neither does Belichick. I forget the exact quote, but I remember Belichick talking about how when building a team he isn't looking to "balance" talent between defense and offense, etc. He's trying to make the best overall team. It's no different for offensive play calling. You call the best play in the given situation, sometimes it's a pass, sometimes it's a run. You can't just look at the box score though and go "they didn't run enough" or "28 points in a half, 30 pass, 20 runs. See, balance!" because you're ignoring the situations and Football IS situations. Stats are meaningless and misleading when you don't understand their limitation.

I think the biggest issue is people like to throw around stat and percentages for what "balanced" should be and stick to it like some golden rule. I do agree that often enough getting a team to commit or at least think about one thing can leave them exposed to something else. The most common is the simple: run to open up the pass. You get more of the defense up towards the LOS and try to get the safeties to think run when it's a pass, etc. That's just ONE example of exposing and confusing a defense. Sometimes it's the opposite, they have the mid and deep passing game defended so you have to attack the short field and run the ball to move the ball and maybe get the defense to give up some of the deep field. If/when they do that, then you can expose them vertically. Again, that's just one very simple and common example.

The point is that you want to expose the weakness of the defense. Most of the time that's match up based with your skill-players. Welker matched up on someone who can't keep up with his cuts. A LB that can't cover Gronk. A ROLB that has trouble identifying the run, a weakened right side of the defensive line. A CB who has trouble making a play on the ball when he doesn't have help, maybe he bites on certain double moves, etc etc etc.

It's about calling the right plays the put the ball in the right players hands. Then the players have to actually execute. It's not so stupidly simple as "Oh, we need to run x amount and pass y amount and then were unstoppable".

Another big factor that often messes with the "balance" idea is line play. If you're offensive line can't block, you aren't doing anything, whether you're calling runs or screens. True, if you telegraph that you are just running or passing, it can make it easier on the d-line and harder on the o-line, but that isn't always true and certainly isn't always a problem.

Play action says hi.

Also 19-2 when balanced, and 11-11 when not, says hi too.

 

[reflexblue]

The "one dimensional" concept is just as dumb as the "our defense sucks" mantra.

Ya pass when you need to pass, ya run when you need to run.

During the course of a 16 game schedule, there will be stretches where the offense will be out of synch.

Just don't turn the ball over. An elite offense will get it together.

Who are the dummies that look at the Giants game and can't comprehend the final four drives FG/TD/FG/TD.

Ya, it's that simple.

Really, and where have the pats just Run the ball to win this year. We're not talking about running the ball when the run defense is weak, we're talking about running the ball to keep the pass rush off of Brady, and setting up play action. One would have to be a real moron to think you can win against top notch teams in the playoffs with a one dimensional passing attack. This team has tried what you described for years now, and haven't won a playoff game in FOUR years.

The fact is if you actually where Watching the games is that we abandon the run for no rhyme or reason. Its like BOB forgets he has one and when he does he never leaves one in long enough to get any kind of rhythm going.

No one has ever won just passing or running like what your describing. The whole idea is like an Alice in Wonderland moment