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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Its hard to get excited about the Patriots draft day, because BB almost never drafts anyone the fans could ever think of, and rarely goes for the flashy guy everyone wants. People end up confused and disappointed on draft day. I'm completely ignoring how they play on day 1, but until the season starts (when we're usually pleasantly surprised) most people are usually left shaking their head.
I care little about where the raiders pick ends up, because it most likely will not be used at that spot, and whether its 12, 13, 17, whatever, BB will still rob someone blind of that picks value and manage 13 picks in the first 4 rounds next year.
If you get excited about draft position as a Pats Fan (with the exception of 32) you're alittle strange. wait until he's done trading it and see who he finally picks to get excited.
you mean the rams seattle game has zero affect on our pick ? wow that's weird.
Its hard to get excited about the Patriots draft day, because BB almost never drafts anyone the fans could ever think of, and rarely goes for the flashy guy everyone wants. People end up confused and disappointed on draft day. I'm completely ignoring how they play on day 1, but until the season starts (when we're usually pleasantly surprised) most people are usually left shaking their head.
I care little about where the raiders pick ends up, because it most likely will not be used at that spot, and whether its 12, 13, 17, whatever, BB will still rob someone blind of that picks value and manage 13 picks in the first 4 rounds next year.
If you get excited about draft position as a Pats Fan (with the exception of 32) you're alittle strange. wait until he's done trading it and see who he finally picks to get excited.
I love draft day...you get to see BB make 37 picks
Just did some quick math on strength of schedule, which is the first tiebreaker for draft order. The Raiders had a pretty easy schedule, so they "win" the tiebreaker against everyone except the Rams and Jags. Thus, here are the best and worst case scenarios:
Best Case:
Raiders lose to KC
Redskins beat Giants
Vikings beat Lions
Titans beat Colts
Dolphins result irrelevant in this scenario.
Raiders finish 7-9 and pick 12th due to "winning" tiebreaker vs. Redskins, Dolphins, Vikings and Titans.
Worst Case:
Raiders beat KC
Pats beat Dolphins
Texans beat Jags.
Raiders finish 8-8 and pick 17th due to "losing" tiebreaker to Jags.
That's correct. The winner of that game makes the playoffs and picks 21st while the loser will pick ahead of the Raiders no matter who it is.
Pick # 15, 1st Round (OAK – Richard Seymour) [movement from 12-17]
Pick # 32, 1st Round
Pick # 33, 2nd Round (CAR – 2010 3rd Round)
Pick # 64, 2nd Round
Pick # 78, 3rd Round (MIN – Randy Moss)
Pick # 96, 3rd Round
Pick # 98, 4th Round (DEN – Laurence Maroney)
Pick #160, 5th Round
Pick #187, 6th Round (NO – David Thomas)
The reality is the 09 and 10 drafts are making a huge impact on this season, and the drafts mentioned above are not.
2005...Mankins,Kaczur,Sanders,.....Cassel,Ellis Hobbs starters on other teams
2006..Gostkowski,Dave Thomas in N.O.
2007...Meriwether just made all pro...we didn't pick again til the 4th round...of course we USED picks to get Welker and Moss
each of those drafts have impacted the Patriots going forward....perhaps you'd rather just jettison all those players and expunge the stain of these "bad" drafts
Great post!
Both scenarios are ideal for the Pats if recent history is any indication. Middle of the first round is perfect. They can still get a top 10 talent when it's all said and done and not have to pay the player top 10 money. I love it!
I mena c'mon, you knew if the Raiders gave the Pats a top 5 pick, the Pats would probably not want to pick in that spot anyways. The likelyhood of them picking between 12-17 is much higher and will allow them to trade their second first rounder for a higher one next year or more picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Couple that with the possible #33 pick and the Pats are looking like they will dominate draft day again!
I am not sure but I think this is close to the mark. Can someone doublecheck me please? (note that there is still movement in some of these that I didn't mark)
Code:Pick # 15, 1st Round (OAK – Richard Seymour) [movement from 12-17] Pick # 32, 1st Round Pick # 33, 2nd Round (CAR – 2010 3rd Round) Pick # 64, 2nd Round Pick # 78, 3rd Round (MIN – Randy Moss) Pick # 96, 3rd Round Pick # 98, 4th Round (DEN – Laurence Maroney) Pick #160, 5th Round Pick #187, 6th Round (NO – David Thomas)
With the almost certainty that there will be a rookie salary cap, this "restriction" is likely no longer a valid one.