OT: Broncos/McDaniels accused of videotaping 49ers practice

[BPF]

this is our media. they will start to put 2+2 togther to make it 5 just to create more news abbout the herald fiasco. iam sure they will now say its wasnt probably matt walsh and maybe it was SS

They can't w/this situation because SS said he never previously taped a walkthrough or practice:

Goodell's letter stated that Scarnecchia maintained he hadn't previously recorded a walk-through or other practice or "engaged in any other improper videotaping (such as recording coaching signals of an opposing team) since joining the Broncos."

The letter also said Scarnecchia "knew that what he did in London was wrong," that taping the walk-through was his decision alone and nobody instructed him to record the practice.

NFL.com news: Taping 49ers' practice draws $50K fines for Broncos, McDaniels

 

[Uncle Rico]

Wow. From Mike Sando of ESPN:

"Steve Scarnecchia, the person responsible for the illicit taping earlier this month, worked for New England when the Patriots allegedly taped St. Louis Rams practices before Super Bowl XXXVI in 2002. As a result, I'm more comfortable removing the word "allegedly" from the previous sentence. The Patriots employed cheaters. Scarnecchia's father, Dante, still works for the Patriots."

49ers, Rams have right to feel cheated - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

What am I missing? Goodell cleared the Pats of the walk through charges, right?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Wow. From Mike Sando of ESPN:

"Steve Scarnecchia, the person responsible for the illicit taping earlier this month, worked for New England when the Patriots allegedly taped St. Louis Rams practices before Super Bowl XXXVI in 2002. As a result, I'm more comfortable removing the word "allegedly" from the previous sentence. The Patriots employed cheaters. Scarnecchia's father, Dante, still works for the Patriots."

49ers, Rams have right to feel cheated - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

What am I missing? Goodell cleared the Pats of the walk through charges, right?

Umm, yes.

As I said before, Walsh's paradox applies here: If such a walkthrough tape exists, why haven't we seen it yet?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

By the time the Broncs have a new HC next year the Patriots could be a 4 time SB champ.

Btw speaking of Spygate and 2007 I've never forgotten how Roger Goodell ignored the Patriots on the Super Bowl podium. The Commish of the NFL NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT TEAM and their amazing 18 - 1 season even once with his postgame remarks on that stage after the SB. And if I'm never forgotten about that astonishing level of disrespect (it still burns me up to this day if I think about it) you can be sure BB and Co. have never forgotten it.
Would love for Goodell to experience a high level of firsthand frost from the Patriots in front of the entire nation post SB some year.
Talk about the ultimate payback.

I didn't know about that, because I never watched that part of the Super Bowl. :enranged:

 

[Joker]

I think you have to give that idea up.


This is from a conference call previously linked by MLR. Jeff Pash is a NFL Executive Vice President

Q. Jeff, how exactly did this situation come to the league's attention and what specifically made Mr. Scarnecchia a repeat offender of the policy?

JEFF PASH: It came to our attention because the Broncos came and reported it to us, specifically Mr. Bowlen and Joe Ellis, and the team's council, Rich Slivka, came to New York and asked for a meeting and sat down with us and went through their own findings of what had happened.

On your second point, Mr. Scarnecchia had previously been employed as a member of the video staff in New England. In the course of the investigation a few years ago he was identified as one of the people who had been involved in improperly recording opposing teams' coaching signals.​

you are just blind as a bat....he was just an assistant with the Patriots...he did NOT have the responsibility of co-ordinating and heading up the filming operations, which HE DID with the Jets...there is a HUGE difference but YOU will never admit it. To you, HE is now the PRIME culprit in the Spygate fiasco which is so totally revisionist as to be completely insane. S Scar was a gopher with the Pats ...he was told when and where to film by others who BORE THE RESPONSIBILTY of assigning tasks. Nice try though....keep up the good work and maybe someday you'll finally find that equivalency between being a low level gopher{Pats} and actual HEAD of the department{Jets}.

 

[SVN]

Wow. From Mike Sando of ESPN:

"Steve Scarnecchia, the person responsible for the illicit taping earlier this month, worked for New England when the Patriots allegedly taped St. Louis Rams practices before Super Bowl XXXVI in 2002. As a result, I'm more comfortable removing the word "allegedly" from the previous sentence. The Patriots employed cheaters. Scarnecchia's father, Dante, still works for the Patriots."

49ers, Rams have right to feel cheated - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

What am I missing? Goodell cleared the Pats of the walk through charges, right?

just as i expected

 

[SVN]

I almost wonder if BB fell on the sword for one of his guys here, and Josh didn't. Might be a delusional Pat fan thing to ask, but.. why not, eh?

he did. thats why he didnt report it. someone else inside the broncos org blew the whistle i think

 

[Hardboiled]

you are just blind as a bat....he was just an assistant with the Patriots...he did NOT have the responsibility of co-ordinating and heading up the filming operations, which HE DID with the Jets...there is a HUGE difference but YOU will never admit it. To you, HE is now the PRIME culprit in the Spygate fiasco which is so totally revisionist as to be completely insane. S Scar was a gopher with the Pats ...he was told when and where to film by others who BORE THE RESPONSIBILTY of assigning tasks. Nice try though....keep up the good work and maybe someday you'll finally find that equivalency between being a low level gopher{Pats} and actual HEAD of the department{Jets}.

I don't have to admit to any difference because I never said there wasn't one. You dramatically claimed he was sanctioned as a Jets employee for actions as a Jet employee and said that it was a "crackhead" idea that the sanction was for his work with the NE.

I really don't know what your beef is. You said he was sanctioned for actions with the Jets and that he did no video work with NE. You were wrong. Own up to your own words. Then feel free to go on sideways tirades.

 

[Fencer]

Previously posted in wrong thread. Arggh.

Steve Scarnecchia's LinkedIn profile is now gone, but at the moment Google still has it in cache:

Steve Scarnecchia - LinkedIn

I bet Bing will have it cached longer than Google does, if you search on steve scarnecchia linkedin

Apparently, he worked for Jets before the Patriots -- including at the time of Spygate.

What I don't understand is what the NFL job listed means.

Current

• Director of Video Operations at Denver Broncos
• Director of Video Operations at National Football League

Past

• Director of Multimedia Production/Producer at New York Jets
• Video Director at New York Jets
• Asst. Video Director at University of Colorado at Boulder

• Football Operations - Video Assistant at New England Patriots
• Football Ops at New England Patriots, New England Revolution and Gillette Stadium
• student at syracuse univsersity

see less...

3 more...
Education

• Syracuse University

Connections

90 connections Industry Sports Websites

• Company Website

Steve Scarnecchia’s Summary

Over a decade's worth of experience working in various capacities within the National Football League. The majority of this time has been spent in Football Operations with three professional teams as well as one season spent in Production with the New York Jets. The past 5 seasons I have been in a management position with two different franchises.
Steve Scarnecchia’s Specialties:

Video editing and creative production (pre and post), content acquisition, manipulation, and distribution, and management in terms of employee communication/relations

Steve Scarnecchia’s Experience

• Director of Video Operations
  
  Denver Broncos
  
  (Sports industry)
  May 2009 — Present (1 year 7 months)
• Director of Video Operations
  
  National Football League
  
  (Sports industry)
  2000 — Present (10 years )
• Director of Multimedia Production/Producer
  
  New York Jets
  
  (Privately Held; Sports industry)
  March 2008 — May 2009 (1 year 3 months)
• Video Director
  
  New York Jets
  
  (Privately Held; Sports industry)
  March 2006 — August 2008 (2 years 6 months)
• Asst. Video Director
  
  University of Colorado at Boulder
  
  (Educational Institution; Higher Education industry)
  August 2005 — March 2006 (8 months)
• Football Operations - Video Assistant
  
  New England Patriots
  
  (Privately Held; Sports industry)
  June 2001 — August 2005 (4 years 3 months)
• Football Ops
  
  New England Patriots, New England Revolution and Gillette Stadium
  
  (Sports industry)
  2000 — 2005 (5 years )
• student
  
  syracuse univsersity
  
  (Public Company; 5001-10,000 employees; DLG; Consumer Goods industry)
  1996 — 2000 (4 years )

Steve Scarnecchia’s Education

• Syracuse University
  
  BA , Communications , 1996 — 2000
  Activities and Societieshi Eta Sigma National Honor Fraternity
  Dean's Merit Scholar
  Golden Key National Honor Society

 

[SVN]

They can't w/this situation because SS said he never previously taped a walkthrough or practice:

NFL.com news: Taping 49ers' practice draws $50K fines for Broncos, McDaniels

well...SS can say what he wants. unfortunately the media will interpret and control what people want to listen.

 

[Hardboiled]

Wow. From Mike Sando of ESPN:

"Steve Scarnecchia, the person responsible for the illicit taping earlier this month, worked for New England when the Patriots allegedly taped St. Louis Rams practices before Super Bowl XXXVI in 2002. As a result, I'm more comfortable removing the word "allegedly" from the previous sentence. The Patriots employed cheaters. Scarnecchia's father, Dante, still works for the Patriots."

49ers, Rams have right to feel cheated - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

What am I missing? Goodell cleared the Pats of the walk through charges, right?

You're not missing anything. Sando is really over the top there. No one has come close to showing a walk-taping happened beyond wild rumor. Even Matt Walsh says he did no taping and knows of no taping done.

We're unfortunetely back the the hysteria of 2007.

 

[andrewgarrr]

Mike Sando is crying for McDaniels to lose his job. I think many more people would be better served if Sando was fired by ESPN and blacklisted by the whole sports-media community. What a ******* dolt.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

I think you have to give that idea up.


This is from a conference call previously linked by MLR. Jeff Pash is a NFL Executive Vice President

Q. Jeff, how exactly did this situation come to the league's attention and what specifically made Mr. Scarnecchia a repeat offender of the policy?

JEFF PASH: It came to our attention because the Broncos came and reported it to us, specifically Mr. Bowlen and Joe Ellis, and the team's council, Rich Slivka, came to New York and asked for a meeting and sat down with us and went through their own findings of what had happened.

On your second point, Mr. Scarnecchia had previously been employed as a member of the video staff in New England. In the course of the investigation a few years ago he was identified as one of the people who had been involved in improperly recording opposing teams' coaching signals.​

mr. scarnecchia had been previously employeed as a memeber of the video staff of the new york jets and previous to that the new england patriots. while mr. scarnecchia was a member of the ny jets video staff, the new england patriots were accused of taping from an inappropriate designation on the sideline. the patriots were assessed a fine and loss of a draft pick. previous to this current incident, the denver broncos had already been determined to be cheating the salary cap in the late 90's, during john elway's successful superbowl runs, and were also fined and had a loss of draft picks. obviously, this commissioner feels that vcr's have as prominent a role in winning games as players do. no fines or investigation have since occurred for the ny jets, a team that has employed a patriots ex-coach and an ex-video ops director.

 

[Joker]

I don't have to admit to any difference because I never said there wasn't one. You dramatically claimed he was sanctioned as a Jets employee for actions as a Jet employee and said that it was a "crackhead" idea that the sanction was for his work with the NE.

I really don't know what your beef is. You said he was sanctioned for actions with the Jets and that he did no video work with NE. You were wrong. Own up to your own words.

The ESPN report says he was sanctioned previously by Goodell. There is ZERO record of Roger Goodell sanctioning S Scar when Spygate broke...Goodell sanctioned BB and fined Kraft. There is ZERO evidence that S Scar was ever sanctioned.Find me the hard copy....and explain how there couldn't possibly be a sanction for the RECORDED IN HARD COPY link to Mangini's ADMISSION that he used TWO cameras ,in VIOLATION of Goodell's edict, but that Bill Belichick said it was OK so there was no problem. Something BB vehemently denied....therein lies the S Scar sanction, kept hidden until this Denver mess blew up.

Anyway, go Pats...may your Jets and their pristine pure reputation do your hardboiled fandom proud.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Mike Sando is crying for McDaniels to lose his job. I think many more people would be better served if Sando was fired by ESPN and blacklisted by the whole sports-media community. What a ******* dolt.

Sando is simply speaking the espn company line when it comes to the Patriots. A sorry, biased excuse for a network.

 

[Hardboiled]

The ESPN report says he was sanctioned previously by Goodell. There is ZERO record of Roger Goodell sanctioning S Scar when Spygate broke...Goodell sanctioned BB and fined Kraft. There is ZERO evidence that S Scar was ever sanctioned.Find me the hard copy....and explain how there couldn't possibly be a sanction for the RECORDED IN HARD COPY link to Mangini's ADMISSION that he used TWO cameras ,in VIOLATION of Goodell's edict, but that Bill Belichick said it was OK so there was no problem. Something BB vehemently denied....therein lies the S Scar sanction, kept hidden until this Denver mess blew up.

Anyway, go Pats...may your Jets and their pristine pure reputation do your hardboiled fandom proud.

Sorry, you said SS was sanctioned for actions with the Jets. I asked for more than your opinion. You got mad.

You also said the fine was only for 2006. You were wrong there. (I don't know if you got mad).

Links were provided to a NFL VP stating that the previous sanction had to do with his time in NE. This showed you were wrong. You got mad.

For some reason you need to pin SS on the Jets and you get mad if it can't be. The Jets videotaping in Gillette Stadium doesn't matter to this discussion unless you show that SS was sanctioned for that, but you haven't provided any proof. Odd that you would demand hard copy when you haven't provided any.

I don't know how I became a Jets fan, but I've been called worse.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I think my biggest worry right now is that JMcD gets fired, comes back to New England to serve his second stint as coordinator (hmmm . . . ring any bells?) before becoming a head coach. . . .

. . . . and gets the Pats to trade for Tim Tebow. :bricks:

 

[Jackson 2]

I think my biggest worry right now is that JMcD gets fired, comes back to New England to serve his second stint as coordinator (hmmm . . . ring any bells?) before becoming a head coach. . . .

. . . . and gets the Pats to trade for Tim Tebow. :bricks:

Josh McDaniels' NFL career is about to end very shortly. His demise is well-deserved, as is that of Steve Scarnecchia. What a couple of dopes. How anyone could possibly involve themselves in this type of stuff after the $***storm of 3 years ago is incomprehensible to me.

 

[shmessy]

This is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Josh McDaniels' NFL career is about to end very shortly. His demise is well-deserved, as is that of Steve Scarnecchia. What a couple of dopes. How anyone could possibly involve themselves in this type of stuff after the $***storm of 3 years ago is incomprehensible to me.

I doubt McDaniels' career is going to end; why should it, if, according to Goodell, McDaniels' only mistake was not to notify?

After all, Ratgini got hired just weeks after he got canned by the JEST. . . .