Yeah, I'm starting to think some of these people just became Pats fans recently because they apparently don't know how things work here yet.
Ty January 2010
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Well, when you do as well as the Pats have in the last decade, you never get a chance to stay put in the top ten - if you stay put, it's more like in the last ten or so.lol because trading up in the 2nd and 3rd is the same as sitting put in the top 10.
And nobody noticed.The 2004-05 NHL season says hello.
I'm sure there were many that thought the same exact thing about baseball and the world series.And nobody noticed.
To think that there will be a lockout next season is pure comedy. The biggest sport in America on lockout?
They will make it happen.
I'm sure there were many that thought the same exact thing about baseball and the world series.
The fact that the NFL is the biggest sport in America is irrelevant to negotiations. The owners do not want to continue as is, and the players don't want to give up anything they have succeeded in obtaining. Is one side or the other going to cave just because you and I will have to find something different to do on Sunday afternoons late in the year? I doubt it.
We all know this is what will happen. Trade down and pick up another pick the next year.
Pass on that real playmaker we need for Value.
How strong and deep is the 2010 draft looking? I don't follow college football at all.
Well, when you do as well as the Pats have in the last decade, you never get a chance to stay put in the top ten - if you stay put, it's more like in the last ten or so.
The original comment was that 'Bill will trade down... he always does.' I guess I missed the fine print that there were conditions to that comment, which has now been repeated so often it is accepted as fact, that the discussion was limited to only the first round.
So, how then does one explain ten first round draft picks in ten years (plus one more that was taken away by Goodell)? I mean, if he "always trades down", wouldn't it be more like three or four first round picks in ten years?
But if you only want to look at first round picks, fine.
In the last ten years the Pats under Belichick have traded up in the first round to select Daniel Graham and Ty Warren. They stayed where they were to get Richard Seymour, Ben Watson, Logan Mankins, and Laurence Maroney.
I suppose trading a first round pick for another pick and a future first round pick falls under the "trading down" umbrella in some eyes - though I'm not sure that's accurate, since they technically move up to an earlier pick. I guess that means trading away that '03 pick to Baltimore, which they used on Kyle Boller, was horrible since it meant the Pats had to wait a year to get Vince Wilfork (and were able to add Eugene Wilson and Dan Klecko in the process.) Jerod Mayo was another first round pick made available by trading into the following season.
It's only been in the last two years that the team flat-out traded down. In 2009 that picked turned into Darius Butler, Brandon Tate, Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman. The 2010 pick turned into Devin McCourty, Taylor Price and Aaron Hernandez.
Now perhaps you can make the argument that Michael Oher or Clay Matthews would be better for the Pats than those first four players, or that Dez Bryant would be better than the other three, but that's probably better left as a separate discussion in another thread for another day - about three years from now. However this often repeated statement that 'Belichick always trades down, he never trades up' is a myth.
TB=TD said:when has Bill made a sound draft choice?
IMO ... chances are 99.9% it will be a DL ...
How strong and deep is the 2010 draft looking? I don't follow college football at all.
How strong and deep is the 2010 draft looking? I don't follow college football at all.
Pretty good, Gronk and Hernandez have already been real positives, McCourty is holding his own.....unless you mean the 2011 Draft?
In that case, very very good. The first round looks tremendously strong, which bodes well for the following seven.