Reality Check On Drafting A Quarterback

[mgteich]

Let's ignore the top 3 picks in the draft. They are indeed expected to succeed, although they often don't. In any case, a team has decided the short-term future of the franchise.
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How likely is one of the other QB's drafted to be a top 10 or even a mediocre QB in the NFL? Will there be 2 this year is the entire rest of the draft? So, after the first 2, teams will draft maybe 6 QB's in the first 5 rounds, hoping that theirs will be one of the two that is even a quality backup in a couple of years.

Let me bend a bit, perhaps we can have more hope that a QB in the top 16 has a future.
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Unless we have a top 3 pick, it is very unlikely that we get a QB that will be our franchise QB, although we might be the QB needy team that wins the lottery.
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The alternatives if we pick 3-8 are clear.
1) Draft the 3rd rated QB. We are unlikely to get him by trading down.
2) Count on the QB that we have signed in free agency to be our QB for the next 3 years while we draft one in the 2nd and/or third and try again next year, and the year after.
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So, we have 2 questions: the name of our coach and the name of our free agent QB.

 

[wheresmosi]

I am less and less sold on caleb Williams over time. To be honest, I would need to see more of Drake May, though everyone swears by him. I have somne doubts as to how well Bo Nix's game translates to the NFL, but he's grown on me--tons of experience, mature, multfaceted. Pennix (sp?) has more classic NFL big arm talen and some mobility, but the injury history scares a bit. But I am starting to think Nix is the guy I would focus on. I am actually a bit worried about us ending up with a chance for Williams and him not living uip to hte hype.

 

[Pape]

vet qb i would target?

really depends on who is coaching...

BB? Jimmy G
Not BB: I would personally go after Josh Dobbs

 

[Jim Beankie]

Let's ignore the top 3 picks in the draft. They are indeed expected to succeed, although they often don't. In any case, a team has decided the short-term future of the franchise.
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How likely is one of the other QB's drafted to be a top 10 or even a mediocre QB in the NFL? Will there be 2 this year is the entire rest of the draft? So, after the first 2, teams will draft maybe 6 QB's in the first 5 rounds, hoping that theirs will be one of the two that is even a quality backup in a couple of years.

Let me bend a bit, perhaps we can have more hope that a QB in the top 16 has a future.
===================
Unless we have a top 3 pick, it is very unlikely that we get a QB that will be our franchise QB, although we might be the QB needy team that wins the lottery.
================
The alternatives if we pick 3-8 are clear.
1) Draft the 3rd rated QB. We are unlikely to get him by trading down.
2) Count on the QB that we have signed in free agency to be our QB for the next 3 years while we draft one in the 2nd and/or third and try again next year, and the year after.
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So, we have 2 questions: the name of our coach and the name of our free agent QB.

Such a crapshoot. Looking at the active or recent FBRef HoF monitor or people close to it, we've got 10 (Kermy), 11 (Bennie), 24 (ARodg), 32 (Brees), and 199. In the probably not even questionable pile, we've got 1 (Eli), 1 (Stafford), 1 (Cam), 3 (to 28), 4 (Rivers), and 75 (Russ). The recent greats seem to have a grudge.

My crazy idea would be to draft Harrison and his QB McCord, who has had trouble nailing the starting job (sound familiar?) this year despite winning and may be drafted in the lower rounds unless they win it all (then forget about it - he'll be another Big Head Mac). I haven't watched any college football yet (except random Nyckoles Harbor), so this is probably a terrible idea. He may not even declare.

 

[Ring 6]

Such a crapshoot. Looking at the active or recent FBRef HoF monitor or people close to it, we've got 10 (Kermy), 11 (Bennie), 24 (ARodg), 32 (Brees), and 199. In the probably not even questionable pile, we've got 1 (Eli), 1 (Stafford), 1 (Cam), 3 (to 28), 4 (Rivers), and 75 (Russ). The recent greats seem to have a grudge.

My crazy idea would be to draft Harrison and his QB McCord, who has had trouble nailing the starting job (sound familiar?) this year despite winning and may be drafted in the lower rounds unless they win it all (then forget about it - he'll be another Big Head Mac). I haven't watched any college football yet (except random Nyckoles Harbor), so this is probably a terrible idea. He may not even declare.

Im a big buckeye fan. McCord is horrible. Worst buckeye qb in at least 20 years. Heismanson is the real deal though.

 

[50-yard-line]

Anybody watched ND's Hartman? I've seen him only a few quarters of play, but I like his composure as a later-round (3rd, 4th) flyer. Seemed to have some maturity on the field, but again, VERY small sample size.

 

[stinkypete]

This reality is true of any QB coming out of any draft. The probability of any 1st rounder regardless of draft position developing into a successful long term starter - meaning, say, someone who signs a second contract with the team - is about 40% at best.

I'd take Williams with the 1st pick. It's a risk worth taking.

Maye has #2 overall bust written all over him.

I'd stay the hell away from Nix. Despite his talent he comes off as a a little too jittery under pressure, and we've all had enough of that.

I like Penix if we traded back up into the bottom of the first round, but not anywhere near the top 10.

 

[*ChungFu*]

I think Daniels and Beck are going to be better than they are rated. Especially if they can get at least a quarter of a season as backups.

 

[Triumph]

Marvin Harrison wont last 3 picks so a QB will drop.

Furthermore, Bust QBs always sucker in some team like the Bears and Tribisky.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I am less and less sold on caleb Williams over time. To be honest, I would need to see more of Drake May, though everyone swears by him. I have somne doubts as to how well Bo Nix's game translates to the NFL, but he's grown on me--tons of experience, mature, multfaceted. Pennix (sp?) has more classic NFL big arm talen and some mobility, but the injury history scares a bit. But I am starting to think Nix is the guy I would focus on. I am actually a bit worried about us ending up with a chance for Williams and him not living uip to hte hype.

I’m with you on Nix. Like Maye and Williams he can make every throw at the NFL level.

Love Williams the QB, he has more talent in one finger than Mac has in his whole body. He instantly improves the position and the team right away. His character and make up will have to be evaluated by better scouts than us. From the outside looking, in he looks like a mess sometimes, but I also don’t doubt his desire to win and his abilities.

Awkwardness is what I see with Penix, just want to nickname him simon (f)Penix from demolition man right now. It’s hard not to think of Philip Rivers when you see the delivery, he plays in a much improved Pac-12 like Williams and Nix and he competes very high in elite contests. Has Washington contending every week which speaks volumes. Has won every game this year.

Maye is the most prototypical that plays on the worst team of the bunch. He’s got great size, the arm, some elusiveness and stats to go with it. Would love to see him with better players around him.

 

[mgteich]

Nix is an easy pick at 6.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

I think Daniels and Beck are going to be better than they are rated. Especially if they can get at least a quarter of a season as backups.

I like both of them because of size and arm. No more noodle armed guys under 6’3” please

 

[venecol]

Let's ignore the top 3 picks in the draft. They are indeed expected to succeed, although they often don't. In any case, a team has decided the short-term future of the franchise.
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Why? We're sitting at #3 right now!

Bill needs to send Brown home to take care of his "personal" issue. Play Grier or Cunningham at QB. Increase JJSS snaps. That should be enough to guarantee a loss to the Giants. Now we're at #2.

The best way to have all the options open at QB is to control your own destiny. The #2 spot should be close enough to do that.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

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Unless we have a top 3 pick, it is very unlikely that we get a QB that will be our franchise QB, although we might be the QB needy team that wins the lottery.

Nix is an easy pick at 6.

Ummm…okay.

 

[Love The Drake]

 

[venecol]

 

[Love The Drake]

 

[Love The Drake]

 

[203Pat]

Yes let's just be scared and mediocre forever.

 

[mgteich]

Ummm…okay.

It's not that hard.

Nix would and should be picked at 6. I don't expect him to be a franchise quarterback.