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Why don't any of you have patience?

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Excuse me sir, that was Tony "Champagne" Eason, haha. [I don't remember why it was Champagne?] Arguably the worst super bowl performance by a quarterback of all time.
Maybe because he played at Illinois.
 
Maye looks like the real deal. Wish the team had done more to help him. we have nearly 37 million in cap space left over this year. That could have been used to help... either the line, wide receivers, a third down back or even on the defensive side of the ball... one or two players could have made a difference,

They can roll that over into the next free agency, which is where Wolf is going to have to make a significant imprint on this team.
 
It's very odd that some (emphasis on SOME) of the people preaching patience were all about immediate gratification of firing Belichick in the middle of a rebuild.

Teams without QBs don't do well in the NFL. You need a half decent QB. That's axiomatic.

Until a team gets that QB, it's re4ally hard to judge the coaches and many of the players.
 
They can roll that over into the next free agency, which is where Wolf is going to have to make a significant imprint on this team.
Yes. If what he did this year was any indication, that imprint will be substantial.
 
i understand that... but what about this year ... they blew it

There was nothing in this year’s free agency, it was a bunch of overpriced jags. I wanted Wilkins and Barkley, but after that it sucked. This team is in rebuild mode, they needed to get a franchise QB to start to build around.
 
I’m done with this idiotic argument. This was a dogshit free agent class, and people wanted him to throw money at jag players, it's ****ing stupidity.
Well, it wasn't all dogshit.
It is when you shop exclusively from the dumpster behind Wal-Mart, though.

You could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki.
 
Well, it wasn't all dogshit.
It is when you shop exclusively from the dumpster behind Wal-Mart, though.

You could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki.
What 'don't you agree' with, @archstanton543?

The fact that all the free agents weren't dogshit? (They weren't)
The fact that the Patriots sifted through the dumpster for their free agents? (They did)
The fact that they could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki? (They could have signed none of them and it would have been a net positive)
 
Well, it wasn't all dogshit.
It is when you shop exclusively from the dumpster behind Wal-Mart, though.

You could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki.

And paid them like Justin Jefferson etc… overspending for jags is stupid, period. Wolf was absolutely right staying out of it, and I would have been pissed if he had been successful in getting everyone’s darling, Calvin Ridley, who sucks, but 90% of this board wanted him desperately.
 
What 'don't you agree' with, @archstanton543?

The fact that all the free agents weren't dogshit? (They weren't)
The fact that the Patriots sifted through the dumpster for their free agents? (They did)
The fact that they could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki? (They could have signed none of them and it would have been a net positive)

Yes, they should have signed Calvin Ridley, who you all wanted, but is dogshit.
 
Well, it wasn't all dogshit.
It is when you shop exclusively from the dumpster behind Wal-Mart, though.

You could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki.

Yes, it was all dogshit.
 
What 'don't you agree' with, @archstanton543?

The fact that all the free agents weren't dogshit? (They weren't)
The fact that the Patriots sifted through the dumpster for their free agents? (They did)
The fact that they could have done better than Okorafor, Osborn and Takitaki? (They could have signed none of them and it would have been a net positive)
All of those points.
 
Hey they could have gotten Kirk Cousins for 180 million. Or how about Robert Hunt for 100 million, what a great deal. Or Calvin Ridley and his 12 catches and 183 yards for 92 million (patsfans really nailed this one). Or how about Jonathan Greenard for 76 million? What a market, what great free agent buys.
 
Yes, they should have signed Calvin Ridley, who you all wanted, but is dogshit.
hes not dogshit... will levis is dogshit

did we even try with the guys like diggs? barkley?

 
hes not dogshit... will levis is dogshit

did we even try with the guys like diggs? barkley?


Diggs was a trade, from what I understand Barkley always wanted to play in Pennsylvania, as he was a PSU grad, but ibwouldnhavrnlovefbtobgrt him. RB is one of the Best Buy’s in free agency, WR is the worst, they are grossly overpaid. I would stay away from WR completely in free agency, and take one or two every year in the draft. If they are able to address LT in free agency this offseason, which is a big if, they should have a shot at either Tetairoa MacMillan or Travis Hunter, either of which would be a huge addition to their receiving corps. And unlike many here I’m not giving up on their young receivers. Both Polk and Baker could end up being good players, and Boutte is starting to show that he can contribute as well. Things could end up looking very different at this time next year, and they could end up with a really good young receiving corps of Douglas, Boutte, Polk, Baker, and possibly Hunter or MacMillan. Wishful thinking, maybe, but it’s way too early to be quitting on these guys.
 
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