Who is the next trade target?

[One-If-By-Sea]

It's a sixth round pick.

I think it is a 6th for a 7th. A 6th round pick swap.

 

[Sfpat]

Sure, we want them to win but I would happily sign up for an awful season to get a real quarterback and high picks throughout the draft

I wish they hadn't gotten another cornerback, and I hope they don't do anything else. You can't ask guys on the roster not to play hard but you can minimize the talent so they lose. Judon and Gonzalez were two of the bright spots on the team, it's almost like a sign they're out for the year

Caleb seems like the real deal. They're not winning a Super Bowl with Mac Jones, so why waste time

Every year, 31 of 32 teams fail to win the Super Bowl. Are they wasting their time?

 

[Thelonious]

Exactly where I am at. Unless it is a young guy we would be looking to extend and be part of the next rebuild this isn't the time to take on veterans unless we just straight up need bodies at the position like we did at corner. I also agree on your "what's the point?" aspect with Bill probably misevaluating whomever is brought in anyways. I want us to figure out which of the multiple rookie guards is going to end up as the starter that will replace Onwenu when he likely leaves. I want to see more Demario Douglas, Thornton (when he's back), and even Boutte over guys we know can't play like Juju. I want to see which of the young corners are starting material. I want to see Keion White getting the bulk of the reps with Trey Flowers just used to spell him.

No question. Part of the approach must be to play the youngsters/newbies to see what they can be. It may not be the best way to win a game (though it could be), but it is certainly "what is best for the team" to find out what we have, including in Mac, whose ill-treatment makes it very difficult at this point to assess what he potentially can be. We must at least see what he can do the remainder of this season before making a formal judgment. It does not look great for Mac at the moment, tbh, but he is certainly owed every chance to show what he can do, given past dereliction in how he has been handled and (not) supported. We know what Zappe is and is not. This is not a time to take on (yet another) qb castoff from some other team. We have wasted enough time over the past several years on such geriatric pipe dreams, at various positions.

 

[Real fan 02]

Exactly where I am at. Unless it is a young guy we would be looking to extend and be part of the next rebuild this isn't the time to take on veterans unless we just straight up need bodies at the position like we did at corner. I also agree on your "what's the point?" aspect with Bill probably misevaluating whomever is brought in anyways. I want us to figure out which of the multiple rookie guards is going to end up as the starter that will replace Onwenu when he likely leaves. I want to see more Demario Douglas, Thornton (when he's back), and even Boutte over guys we know can't play like Juju. I want to see which of the young corners are starting material. I want to see Keion White getting the bulk of the reps with Trey Flowers just used to spell him.

We have alot of guys on 1 yr deals and expiring contracts Henry, gisecki, KB, just to name a few. Of course the Injuries aren't the organizations fault as it's part of the game. However if this thing continues and we fall in the standing like it feels like.. then I'm with you. Keon white on defense and the young guys on offense should be playing. For the life of me I just can't understand why they aren't playing guys that can help us.. you would think like they are intentionally trying to suck on offense.

 

[aluminum seats]

Every year, 31 of 32 teams fail to win the Super Bowl. Are they wasting their time?

I think any organization that isn't doing everything they can to be on the path to a potential Super Bowl is wasting their time

Look, I can't watch the patriots and not root for them to win either, it's too ingrained. But at the end of the season if you're asking me if I would rather the patriots have won 8 games and missed the playoffs or 2 games, I know which I would choose

 

[Wozzy]

Will Grier?

Has some tools to work with and should have accumulated some experience at this point.

 

[203Pat]

So which is it, playing this year or being a starter in 2024?

We’re talking about this year. How are we going to evaluate a player who can’t play?

 

[Thelonious]

I think any organization that isn't doing everything they can to be on the path to a potential Super Bowl is wasting their time

I agree, but in this instance, because the rebuild has been so badly handled, that "path to a potential Super Bowl" is longer than a single year, particularly when your roster is as incomplete and unbalanced as this. To "do what we can to win this year" will push us in the direction of short-term actions which are likely to set us BACK as we rebuild, Just look at all the trash accumulated on the roster from the practice of "doing whatever we can to win" up to now. The result is that we have NO CHANCE. Not to acknowledge this is just foolish and sets us on the wrong path. We must put in place a GM with a longer term vision for the offense than to plug in a series of has-beens because they are, in Bill's mind at least, "reliable." Firing the GM is the obvious first move: once you have somebody competent in there you can begin to progress. The new GM will of course take Bill's opinions into account, but must have a 100% prerogative to reject the advice if he sees fit. No more incompetent "Friends of Bill" cluttering up the joint.

 

[aluminum seats]

I agree, but in this instance, because the rebuild has been so badly handled, that "path to a potential Super Bowl" is longer than a single year, particularly when your roster is as incomplete and unbalanced as this. To "do what we can to win this year" will push us in the direction of short-term actions which are likely to set us BACK as we rebuild, Just look at all the trash accumulated on the roster from the practice of "doing whatever we can to win" up to now. The result is that we have NO CHANCE. Not to acknowledge this is just foolish and sets us on the wrong path. We must put in place a GM with a longer term vision for the offense than to plug in a series of has-beens because they are, in Bill's mind at least, "reliable." Firing the GM is the obvious first move: once you have somebody competent in there you can begin to progress. The new GM will of course take Bill's opinions into account, but must have a 100% prerogative to reject the advice if he sees fit. No more incompetent "Friends of Bill" cluttering up the joint.

I think you missed my point, because I was really talking about longer-term. There's no Super Bowl for this team this year obviously.

I actually disagree that this roster is such a **** show, although the offensive line is a mess and they don't have a quarterback. But both of those things could be addressed with high draft picks next year, so I think they could be contending for a Super Bowl for years to come if they just fall apart this year instead of winning 7-8 games.

There is one way to getting rid of Belichick could help here, because he doesn't want to lose. Let him go somewhere else, and have Judge be the interim coach this year. Let it fall apart and then appoint O'Brien or Mayo next year. Boom.

 

[Thelonious]

I think you missed my point, because I was really talking about longer-term. There's no Super Bowl for this team this year obviously.

I actually disagree that this roster is such a **** show, although the offensive line is a mess and they don't have a quarterback. But both of those things could be addressed with high draft picks next year, so I think they could be contending for a Super Bowl for years to come if they just fall apart this year instead of winning 7-8 games.

There is one way to getting rid of Belichick could help here, because he doesn't want to lose. Let him go somewhere else, and have Judge be the interim coach this year. Let it fall apart and then appoint O'Brien or Mayo next year. Boom.

We're on the same page. I apologize if I misread your post.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

If Atlanta would entertain trading him I would be interested in Kyle Pitts. Both our current TEs are in the last years of the deals and Pitts would immediately become our most talented weapon on offense.

 

[Love The Drake]

If Atlanta would entertain trading him I would be interested in Kyle Pitts. Both our current TEs are in the last years of the deals and Pitts would immediately become our most talented weapon on offense.

I could see Atlanta trading him but I don’t see Pitts coming here with Henry and Gesicki.
Maybe next season when one or both are no longer here.

 

[TheBeers]

I know it's incredibly unlikely but I'd trade for Drake London in a heartbeat.

If we're trading for an older vet he better be a difference maker like Adams or Kupp, possibly Lockett. We'll see who the teams that are sellers in the next few weeks. But, I'd rather trade for younger guys like Higgins that still have prime years ahead of them. Jeudy is not my favorite but he's in that bucket. Not sure who else fits the mold of 3rd-4th year guy that's gonna need a contract and are on the market. I'm sure some names will come up as we approach the deadline.

 

[TheBeers]

In my Madden 24 franchise I traded:
Bourne, 2024 7th, 2025 6th to the Texans for 2024 3rd, 2025 5th
Juju, 2026 6th to the Panthers for a 2024 2nd, 2026 5th.
Devante Parker, 2024 2nd, 2025 2nd, 2024 3rd, to the Dolphins for Jaylen Waddle.

Texans release Nico Collins to fit Bourne (I know), so i signed Nico

2023 WR's now
Waddle
Collins
Thornton
Douglas
Boutte

 

[n1997y]

We’re talking about this year. How are we going to evaluate a player who can’t play?

Same way we evaluated Gonzo. Same way we evaluate every rookie. Same way we would’ve evaluated him (Bolden) this year if he wasn’t hurt in preseason, just next year instead of this year.

We pretty much know what we have with the Jones boys. The really big question marks are how players will recover from injury. Marcus, Gonzo, Bolden. That has nothing to do with seeing them play this year.

The idea that this year is going to tell us how any player will play next year is delusional. Rookies often make a jump in performance in their sophomore year. Guys in a contract year this year may slump next year after they get their extension. Guys who got hurt may not fully recover. There are so many variables, how they play this season is just one, and one that much is less important than how they do in OTAs and camp next season.