What is offsides nowadays???

[Gumby]

So I missed half of 1Q; and am rewatching

Tampa #0 ( Diaby ) for me was constantly in or OVER the neutral zone. Williams handled him; MOSTLY….but this is a complete unfair advantage. Him and his buddy - DT are both a full yard closer than rest of line. In picture below, but was same in all 3 critical downs in this series

Why are they special? I remember (in years past) guys getting flagged for the helmet being in that invisible plane, even though hands/feet were behind the line. Now seems like everything goes.

What is your understanding of offsides for the DL?

 

[Clonamery]

So I missed half of 1Q; and am rewatching

Tampa #0 ( Diaby ) for me was constantly in or OVER the neutral zone. Williams handled him; MOSTLY….but this is a complete unfair advantage. Him and his buddy - DT are both a full yard closer than rest of line. In picture below, but was same in all 3 critical downs in this series

Why are they special? I remember (in years past) guys getting flagged for the helmet being in that invisible plane, even though hands/feet were behind the line. Now seems like everything goes.

What is your understanding of offsides for the DL?

Camera angle doesn't do your argument any justice.

 

[h0c2000]

Look up parallax and come back.

 

[Gumby]

Camera angle doesn't do your argument any justice.

I thought it gives general idea. Not a Profi- snipper.

I had trouble getting the AFN re-broadcast to hold at the exact snap, in this picture the DE is actually more in neutral zone than Diaby. But on every down (1/2/3) he kept leaning in and stepping forward until the snap & then getting half around Williams for a pressure.

 

[AQPE]

Who is Williams?

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Camera angle doesn't do your argument any justice.

Look at his feet compared to the center's feet. The yellow line isn't impacted by parallax.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Diaby had an offsides called on him.

If Diaby is leaning off sides (his feet are onsides) in your pic, it is only slightly so it is difficult to determine from that angle.

 

[Triumph]

The Pats looked to be in the neutral zone too, but no call.

The Eagles and Chiefs get away with encroachment all the time.

 

[Ross12]

Who is Williams?

Guessing he meant either Wilson or (Will) Campbell

 

[mike_usagisan]

My kid asked me why there weren't frequent holding calls in this game. This wasn't the same ref crew as those first few games, where we were getting called for shoelaces untied. Some crews just don't call much.

 

[Triumph]

My kid asked me why there weren't frequent holding calls in this game. This wasn't the same ref crew as those first few games, where we were getting called for shoelaces untied. Some crews just don't call much.

That is what's so maddening.

The rules are not enforced universally across the NFL.

 

[h0c2000]

must be offsides.

 

[mike_usagisan]

That is what's so maddening.

The rules are not enforced universally across the NFL.

Yeah, but it really is part of the game. Coaches scout the refs and tell their players "these guys call penalties very tight" or "these guys allow a lot of fighting on the CB." As long as they're consistent in the game, against both teams, it's ok with me.

 

[Gumby]

Ok. Sorry all & apologies; but learned a lesson…. Don’t post visuals w no practice 4 hours after eye surgery.

Not only was the picture ****, but it was also the wrong series (the 1st down converted) rather than the one driving the punt. I rewound too far.,,

Try this…1 down

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

The Music City Miracle was a lateral.

 

[Gumby]

& 2d down


&
3d down

 

[VrabelJr]

Ball is already snapped in the 2nd and 3rd picks so you can't really tell.

 

[Gumby]

4 down of previous series w the Tonga block
Didn’t affect outcome, but still offsides IMO & probably most egregious one.

 

[Clonamery]

Having a difficult time knowing where Lee Harvey Oswald was. I'll have to check the Zapruder film.

 

[Ring 6]

4 down of previous series w the Tonga block
Didn’t affect outcome, but still offsides IMO & probably most egregious one.

Players are always offsides after the snap