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If you want to watch every NFL game this upcoming season, it'll cost you nearly a thousand dollars and require five different streaming services and apps. So much for cutting the cord; now it's a requirement. Watching the NFL This Season? You’ll Need at Least 5 Streaming Services

Okay guys, I try to block all the money out of my mind and just focus on football and enjoy it. But they are sure are making it difficult. Is there a point where we finally just say, forget it? I usually watch at a sports bar anyway, since I'm out of town. And we don't need to watch every game. BUT, the greed just really makes it so unpleasant, I'm thinking about just packing it in. How do y'all feel about this?
 
Two things:
1) The article is false because the numbers don't add up in the way they suggest
2) The article is true (IMO) because this fragmentation will lead to customer dissatisfaction with, if not abandonment of, the sport

For (1) it says people need to pay $72.99/month for something like Hulu or u2b-tv but if they're doing that, chances are they are using it as their cable replacement and getting far more value out of it than just watching NFL. It also counts the other streaming services across multiple months but they are mostly one month bills you can cancel at any time. They point out that 70% of people who subscribe for NFL don't cancel, but that means those people are either (a) lazy/stupid or (b) getting more value out of the service than just watching NFL games.

For (2) I already crossed the threshold where I was paying too much for cable primarily to watch NFL games so I did something about it, I bought an antenna and watched over-the-air. I think there is a point where people look at their bills and ask themselves if the value of entertainment is worth the cost and make cutbacks. NFL is cashing in now, but IMO it won't last forever. I think u2b and hulu are making the same mistakes cable did, too much 'bundling' and not enough choice. The price keeps going up but the value does not.

NFL is in its glory days since it's pretty much the only media content left that is true "appointment viewing" that people will pay a premium for. NFL knows this and is leveraging this to the extreme to get marginal entities like Peacock to cash in the family silver to pay NFL for a chance to save themselves, but IMO in the end they are doomed and this is just a last gasp thing. There will be a huge shake out in the streaming world and once things settle down, NFL won't be able to extract this kind of mega-premiums out of outfits like Peacock.

Bottom line for me is I'm already cutting back my NFL viewing. I have Amazon Prime so I can watch TNF for free, but found myself rarely doing so. I used to watch 3 games each Sunday (1pm, 4pm, SNF) now typically don't even finish two. I think all of last season there was just one time where a game was tempting enough to look into getting a subscription to watch but ended up not doing so when I saw what was involved.

It's not about not having time since I'm retired. It's not about money because most all of them are still free to me via over-the-air antenna. It's about the games not being very interesting, especially since our team has been frustrating to watch the last several seasons, and that there are other things I can do with my time. I find that I watch our game for a while as long as it stays interesting, and maybe one more game if it has a good match up, and that's more than enough. It's all DVR'd so I can go back and watch later, but more and more I find myself just deleting games without watching them.

Like most people, I have other things to do. NFL product overall has declined while other activities are at least as interesting and are more accessible. Then add in all the money grabbing NFL does, it's easy to just turn it off.

One thing I find myself doing is watching the "Game in 30 Minutes" videos posted by the NFL to u2b. They are usually posted 24 hours after the game ends and are good for keeping tabs on other teams without having to commit a lot of time. I'm kind of surprised they are posting these videos for free, but they are. Sooner or later they'll find a way to charge for them, then I'll be out.
 
Two things:
1) The article is false because the numbers don't add up in the way they suggest
2) The article is true (IMO) because this fragmentation will lead to customer dissatisfaction with, if not abandonment of, the sport

For (1) it says people need to pay $72.99/month for something like Hulu or u2b-tv but if they're doing that, chances are they are using it as their cable replacement and getting far more value out of it than just watching NFL. It also counts the other streaming services across multiple months but they are mostly one month bills you can cancel at any time. They point out that 70% of people who subscribe for NFL don't cancel, but that means those people are either (a) lazy/stupid or (b) getting more value out of the service than just watching NFL games.

For (2) I already crossed the threshold where I was paying too much for cable primarily to watch NFL games so I did something about it, I bought an antenna and watched over-the-air. I think there is a point where people look at their bills and ask themselves if the value of entertainment is worth the cost and make cutbacks. NFL is cashing in now, but IMO it won't last forever. I think u2b and hulu are making the same mistakes cable did, too much 'bundling' and not enough choice. The price keeps going up but the value does not.

NFL is in its glory days since it's pretty much the only media content left that is true "appointment viewing" that people will pay a premium for. NFL knows this and is leveraging this to the extreme to get marginal entities like Peacock to cash in the family silver to pay NFL for a chance to save themselves, but IMO in the end they are doomed and this is just a last gasp thing. There will be a huge shake out in the streaming world and once things settle down, NFL won't be able to extract this kind of mega-premiums out of outfits like Peacock.

Bottom line for me is I'm already cutting back my NFL viewing. I have Amazon Prime so I can watch TNF for free, but found myself rarely doing so. I used to watch 3 games each Sunday (1pm, 4pm, SNF) now typically don't even finish two. I think all of last season there was just one time where a game was tempting enough to look into getting a subscription to watch but ended up not doing so when I saw what was involved.

It's not about not having time since I'm retired. It's not about money because most all of them are still free to me via over-the-air antenna. It's about the games not being very interesting, especially since our team has been frustrating to watch the last several seasons, and that there are other things I can do with my time. I find that I watch our game for a while as long as it stays interesting, and maybe one more game if it has a good match up, and that's more than enough. It's all DVR'd so I can go back and watch later, but more and more I find myself just deleting games without watching them.

Like most people, I have other things to do. NFL product overall has declined while other activities are at least as interesting and are more accessible. Then add in all the money grabbing NFL does, it's easy to just turn it off.

One thing I find myself doing is watching the "Game in 30 Minutes" videos posted by the NFL to u2b. They are usually posted 24 hours after the game ends and are good for keeping tabs on other teams without having to commit a lot of time. I'm kind of surprised they are posting these videos for free, but they are. Sooner or later they'll find a way to charge for them, then I'll be out.
I have already cut back. Not to keep beating the drum, but I am not spending more money. Jean-Luke agrees:
 
I have already cut back. Not to keep beating the drum, but I am not spending more money. Jean-Luke agrees:

NFL currently is "appointment viewing" and has a "towing effect" in that it is important enough to many customers that they will figure out how to install the right streaming apps and how to register with them to watch the games. Once the customer is on a given service, the hope is that they will find other stuff in that service that they want to watch to keep them on that service.

I have to wonder how long that towing effect will last. People will take a look at their bills and say I just don't get enough value out of all of this stuff and I need to cancel it all. Once they do that they tend to be pissed off about it and reluctant to get on board again. That's certainly how I feel about cable TV these days.

Yet while it lasts, NFL is as usual leveraging it for all it is worth. I think in some cases the services are using it to try to get enough subscribers onboard so to make themselves an attractive buy-out candidate. It all feels like a big pump-and-dump scheme to me and a big shakeout is coming. Once things shake out the landscape will be quite different, but for now, NFL is cashing in.

If one wants to see how this can all go pear-shaped, take a look at major league baseball and the regional sports network shakeout.
 
PSA: If you know which websites to use, you can watch any game live for nothing. Just use a good ad blocker like Adguard and there will be no annoying ads. If you'd like to watch replays (including the time condensed ones), there's a site where they are available 3-4 hours after the game (usually, sometimes takes more time). They strip out the TV commercials. You can even watch any game from past seasons. I've been using sites like these for years with no issues (aside from some lag on the live ones if a game is very popular -- then I usually elect to watch the replay later in the evening).
 
Two things:
1) The article is false because the numbers don't add up in the way they suggest
2) The article is true (IMO) because this fragmentation will lead to customer dissatisfaction with, if not abandonment of, the sport

For (1) it says people need to pay $72.99/month for something like Hulu or u2b-tv but if they're doing that, chances are they are using it as their cable replacement and getting far more value out of it than just watching NFL. It also counts the other streaming services across multiple months but they are mostly one month bills you can cancel at any time. They point out that 70% of people who subscribe for NFL don't cancel, but that means those people are either (a) lazy/stupid or (b) getting more value out of the service than just watching NFL games.

For (2) I already crossed the threshold where I was paying too much for cable primarily to watch NFL games so I did something about it, I bought an antenna and watched over-the-air. I think there is a point where people look at their bills and ask themselves if the value of entertainment is worth the cost and make cutbacks. NFL is cashing in now, but IMO it won't last forever. I think u2b and hulu are making the same mistakes cable did, too much 'bundling' and not enough choice. The price keeps going up but the value does not.

NFL is in its glory days since it's pretty much the only media content left that is true "appointment viewing" that people will pay a premium for. NFL knows this and is leveraging this to the extreme to get marginal entities like Peacock to cash in the family silver to pay NFL for a chance to save themselves, but IMO in the end they are doomed and this is just a last gasp thing. There will be a huge shake out in the streaming world and once things settle down, NFL won't be able to extract this kind of mega-premiums out of outfits like Peacock.

Bottom line for me is I'm already cutting back my NFL viewing. I have Amazon Prime so I can watch TNF for free, but found myself rarely doing so. I used to watch 3 games each Sunday (1pm, 4pm, SNF) now typically don't even finish two. I think all of last season there was just one time where a game was tempting enough to look into getting a subscription to watch but ended up not doing so when I saw what was involved.

It's not about not having time since I'm retired. It's not about money because most all of them are still free to me via over-the-air antenna. It's about the games not being very interesting, especially since our team has been frustrating to watch the last several seasons, and that there are other things I can do with my time. I find that I watch our game for a while as long as it stays interesting, and maybe one more game if it has a good match up, and that's more than enough. It's all DVR'd so I can go back and watch later, but more and more I find myself just deleting games without watching them.

Like most people, I have other things to do. NFL product overall has declined while other activities are at least as interesting and are more accessible. Then add in all the money grabbing NFL does, it's easy to just turn it off.

One thing I find myself doing is watching the "Game in 30 Minutes" videos posted by the NFL to u2b. They are usually posted 24 hours after the game ends and are good for keeping tabs on other teams without having to commit a lot of time. I'm kind of surprised they are posting these videos for free, but they are. Sooner or later they'll find a way to charge for them, then I'll be out.
tl;dr
 
NFL currently is "appointment viewing" and has a "towing effect" in that it is important enough to many customers that they will figure out how to install the right streaming apps and how to register with them to watch the games. Once the customer is on a given service, the hope is that they will find other stuff in that service that they want to watch to keep them on that service.

I have to wonder how long that towing effect will last. People will take a look at their bills and say I just don't get enough value out of all of this stuff and I need to cancel it all. Once they do that they tend to be pissed off about it and reluctant to get on board again.

Yet while it lasts, NFL is as usual leveraging it for all it is worth. I think in some cases the services are using it to try to get enough subscribers onboard so to make themselves an attractive buy-out candidate. It all feels like a big pump-and-dump scheme to me and a big shakeout is coming. Once things shake out the landscape will be quite different, but for now, NFL is cashing in.

If one wants to see how this can all go pear-shaped, take a look at major league baseball and the regional sports network shakeout.
I had Fubo, but only watched NESN and occasionally NASCAR. It was a lot at $90, so I shut that off.

Bought SLING for the Bruins for this series, they lose tonight and I will shut that off.

The towing thing is real, however, I got three months free Apple+, signed up for the Dynasty, now I am into "See", "Ted Lasso" and "Franklin". Trying to get thru those so I can shut that off. I doubt I will finish Lasso, but this is the first month I have to pay for, so I am a little more motivated to get thru them.
 
I had Fubo, but only watched NESN and occasionally NASCAR. It was a lot at $90, so I shut that off.

Bought SLING for the Bruins for this series, they lose tonight and I will shut that off.

The towing thing is real, however, I got three months free Apple+, signed up for the Dynasty, now I am into "See", "Ted Lasso" and "Franklin". Trying to get thru those so I can shut that off. I doubt I will finish Lasso, but this is the first month I have to pay for, so I am a little more motivated to get thru them.

My tip: go unsubscribe right now. They will keep the service on till the end of the billing period which gives you some time to do as you say. You can always go resubscribe if you're still making the effort to get through the content. If not, it'll just lapse and life will move on.

In essence we're both saying the towing effect works. I found that I put on Netflix to watch the latest 'Drive to Survive' season, then kept it on when I heard about the Brady roast, then began to watch 'Drive to Survive' reruns, then had an extra month tick by without realizing it. When I noticed that, I decided to do as above, just unsubscribe now so another month won't tick by. I am finding that it does drive that motivation to use it before it goes away.
 
PSA: If you know which websites to use, you can watch any game live for nothing. Just use a good ad blocker like Adguard and there will be no annoying ads. If you'd like to watch replays (including the time condensed ones), there's a site where they are available 3-4 hours after the game (usually, sometimes takes more time). They strip out the TV commercials. You can even watch any game from past seasons. I've been using sites like these for years with no issues (aside from some lag on the live ones if a game is very popular -- then I usually elect to watch the replay later in the evening).

I guess I'm too much of a "follow the rules" kind of guy to do it this way. Not saying you shouldn't do what you are doing, am saying I wish I didn't have so many fears implanted deep within me. The business world is more than willing to **** over people to get what they want, we should be willing to return the favor.
 
I guess I'm too much of a "follow the rules" kind of guy to do it this way. Not saying you shouldn't do what you are doing, am saying I wish I didn't have so many fears implanted deep within me. The business world is more than willing to **** over people to get what they want, we should be willing to return the favor.
Understood. I've been sailing the high seas as a man of fortune for years now. I am computer savvy and know how to protect myself (although the sites I am using are not honeypots), but it's not for everyone. I decided I was tired of being exploited. These media companies are really all one big company, and this strategy is by design. If Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street (who own significant stakes in each other and all media companies) are going to shrink the middle class, make housing and groceries unaffordable, strip us of political power, and make meat expensive so we have to eat bugs, I feel justified in hoisting the Jolly Roger.
 
I think expansion in online gambling will see many paying for most if not all of them ...
Increased heart rate/blood pressure ... Head rush of adrenaline and dopamine anyone?
 
Paying for YouTube. Primarily for the wife to watch the Eagles. She is happy watching at home rather that out with the hordes of Eagles fans who infest Denver. I can watch the Pats at the same time since they now allow it. We used to get the Pats on OTA TV here quite a bit. Now not so much...
 
I'm probably the biggest sucker going. I still have cable, I'll buy the package so I can get every out of town game. I have Netflix, Amazon, peacock, and I'm sure a few others.

And the kicker I'm a season ticket holder too so I'm at Gillette half the time anyway.

 
I'm probably the biggest sucker going. I still have cable, I'll buy the package so I can get every out of town game. I have Netflix, Amazon, peacock, and I'm sure a few others.

And the kicker I'm a season ticket holder too so I'm at Gillette half the time anyway.


Close to me ... I need Amazon so have that ...
I grabbed Peacock for $99 a year ... mostly sucks but I bought it will not renew.
Netflix I like for movies and shows while working at my desk.
ESPN+ I somehow get free through my Verizon wireless.
Also because I cut the cord I have an excellent antenna for local channels.

If I need any other to watch the Patriots I will stream a pirated signal.
 
Keep this in mind too
In the second year of this new approach, plenty of games won’t be televised by the network they previously would have televised them. Through the first 17 weeks of the season, 49 games are on CBS instead of Fox, or Fox instead of CBS. That’s nearly three games per week on average, assigned to the network other than the one that traditionally would have televised it.
 
If you'd like to watch replays (including the time condensed ones), there's a site where they are available 3-4 hours after the game (usually, sometimes takes more time). They strip out the TV commercials. You can even watch any game from past seasons.
Tell me more about this one, please. This is what I currently get NFL+ for.
 
If you want to watch every NFL game this upcoming season, it'll cost you nearly a thousand dollars and require five different streaming services and apps. So much for cutting the cord; now it's a requirement. Watching the NFL This Season? You’ll Need at Least 5 Streaming Services

Okay guys, I try to block all the money out of my mind and just focus on football and enjoy it. But they are sure are making it difficult. Is there a point where we finally just say, forget it? I usually watch at a sports bar anyway, since I'm out of town. And we don't need to watch every game. BUT, the greed just really makes it so unpleasant, I'm thinking about just packing it in. How do y'all feel about this?
Most services have a 7 day free trial.
 
First year I’m going to try without the Sunday ticket.
Can someone tell me if the pats play at 4pm say on the west coast what Channel does it air on?
 
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