PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP Training Camp Day 6 - July 29

[Family]

FWIW - Bedard says about Strange today, "it feels like this is the beginning of the end for him.

If this is the case, I think Strange has trade value.

 

[captain stone]

Other notable cuts that ended up being players elsewhere…

Darius Butler became a good slot CB for the Colts. Hjalte Froholdt became a permanent starter at C/G for the Cardinals. Braxton Berrios became a decent slot WR.

I believe they're referring to the 2016 training camp in particular...

 

[captain stone]

IF Polk or Baker continues to improve Hollins is not Needed.

If everyone else improves similarly, then none of those 3 are needed.

 

[captain stone]

We could do so much better than Hollins.

I was kinda surprised that they didn't sign Vrabel's old friend from Tennessee, WR Nick Westbrook-Ikhine...

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

We could do so much better than Hollins.

As a blocking outside WR? He had 700 yards previously with Josh at Vegas. Who could we add to do so much better?

 

[PatsFan2]

FWIW - Bedard says about Strange today, "it feels like this is the beginning of the end for him.

If this is the case, I think Strange has trade value.

It will probably be a 6th or 7th horrible return for a Former First Rounder.

 

[Family]

It will probably be a 6th or 7th horrible return for a Former First Rounder.

I feel if it's not better they won't make a deal.

 

[PatsFan2]

I feel if it's not better they won't make a deal.

You're going to be disappointed... it seems like even Transition Tackle Caedan Wallace is ahead of him on the OG depth chart.

 

[PatsFan2]

As a blocking outside WR? He had 700 yards previously with Josh at Vegas. Who could we add to do so much better?

Polk and Baker one more year... Baker have X Potential.

 

[Family]

iuiii

You're going to be disappointed... it seems like even Transition Tackle Caedan Wallace is ahead of him on the OG depth chart.

You may be correct, but Strange has an interesting cap number as well as starter potential on the line.

If the Pats play it right I think they can squeeze more from an injury ridden team (or we might be the injury ridden team and keep him).

 

[PatsFan2]

iuiii


You may be correct, but Strange has an interesting cap number as well as starter potential on the line.

If the Pats play it right I think they can squeeze more from an injury ridden team (or we might be the injury ridden team and keep him).

It's his Last year here: they have already told him they're are not picking up his Fifth Year Option. It seems like we have Log jam at Guard...with Him - Sow - Robinson and now Wallace. I am sure I'm missing few names at Guard.

 

[p8ryts]

It's his Last year here: they have already told him they're are not picking up his Fifth Year Option.

I'm not in favor of releasing him this year but it does seem Vrabel will do what he can to send him packing.

 

[Family]

I'm not in favor of releasing him this year but it does seem Vrabel will do what he can to send him packing.

Vrabel is rebuilding the line. I expect most everyone, if not all, who are not on the earlier part of a rookie contract will be gone once it makes sense to do so.

IMO that's different than "Vrabel will do what he can to send him packing." Strange might have value as backup at multiple positions for this season.

I suspect they're testing Wallace, Sow, Robinsons, Brown etc, and that Strange's future here will be determined more by that than his actual play. If enough younger players succeed, you will likely be right.

The cap number is good, so I think it's more likely that they keep him for a better deal or just keep him anyway.

 

[Toofy]

I think these 4 are locks - diggs, williams , Boutte and Pop .

Pop and Boutte - Would be decent wr3 /wr4 options who might be better than the other wr 3/4 on most teams . The Hope - they elevate and play closer to Wr2. Backups/ Insurance - Williams.

Williams - rookie. They will not expect too much out of him and will consider him more in mould of wr 5 who can elevate to wr 2 or 1 next year . Goal - get more playtime and build playmaking ability

Diggs - treated like a wr1 . Hoping he can elevate others. Going by his contract , looks like they are just punting . For all we know he might be a more high end wr 2 than a wr 1 who would potentially decline next year . Backup - expect Polk or Williams or baker to grow into this role

Bourne - injury insurance for training camp. Essentially if DIGGs goes on Pup or IR

Hollins - Injury insurance for Diggs if he fails or if one of selected candidates fails in first six weeks - pup for first six weeks and then either cut or trade. His guaranteed contract is just insurance money for now.

Polk/ baker / chism - all 3 are outside looking in . Considering that Diggs for all we know might not be here and if Douglas excels as a slot and wants a insane contract next year we need a backup slot, I feel we might keep 2 wide receivers to develop along with Williams - that should be Polk and Chism unless baker lights it out in next 4 weeks.

Final 6 on 53 - Diggs , Boutte , Pop , williams , Polk, Chism where last 3 are developmental prospects

Bourne - cut unless diggs goes into pup

Hollins - PUP to start season and could come midway if Polk or Chism flame out .

Baker - practice squad

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Polk and Baker one more year... Baker have X Potential.

LOL. Too funny. Never change.

 

[PatsFan2]

LOL. Too funny. Never change.

GM of the...

 

[captain stone]

I think these 4 are locks - diggs, williams , Boutte and Pop .

Pop and Boutte - Would be decent wr3 /wr4 options who might be better than the other wr 3/4 on most teams . The Hope - they elevate and play closer to Wr2. Backups/ Insurance - Williams.

Williams - rookie. They will not expect too much out of him and will consider him more in mould of wr 5 who can elevate to wr 2 or 1 next year . Goal - get more playtime and build playmaking ability

Diggs - treated like a wr1 . Hoping he can elevate others. Going by his contract , looks like they are just punting . For all we know he might be a more high end wr 2 than a wr 1 who would potentially decline next year . Backup - expect Polk or Williams or baker to grow into this role

Bourne - injury insurance for training camp. Essentially if DIGGs goes on Pup or IR

Hollins - Injury insurance for Diggs if he fails or if one of selected candidates fails in first six weeks - pup for first six weeks and then either cut or trade. His guaranteed contract is just insurance money for now.

Polk/ baker / chism - all 3 are outside looking in . Considering that Diggs for all we know might not be here and if Douglas excels as a slot and wants a insane contract next year we need a backup slot, I feel we might keep 2 wide receivers to develop along with Williams - that should be Polk and Chism unless baker lights it out in next 4 weeks.

Final 6 on 53 - Diggs , Boutte , Pop , williams , Polk, Chism where last 3 are developmental prospects

Bourne - cut unless diggs goes into pup

Hollins - PUP to start season and could come midway if Polk or Chism flame out .

Baker - practice squad

Hollins has now been removed from PUP, I believe.