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  1. patfanken

    patfanken PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Historically THIS is the week when Bill goes to the market and sells his surpluses and grabs his needs. So since we have about 10 days before an even MORE meaningless game, I though its time to speculate on some trades that can benefit us while easing some of the positional pressures to the roster.

    1. Elandon Roberts and a 7th round pick for Cameron Braite

    Justification - Roberts is a starting quality run defender who has been made redundant by Bentley who has a higher upside, is younger, and cheaper. Braite is a proven TE who has been made redundant by OJ Howard. Good cap space move for the Bucs and we have the space to take him on.

    Result - Say goodbye to Lacosse (can't make the club from the tub), Kendrick and Saubert. Braite and Izzo make the roster and we will see where we are come October when Watson returns.

    2. Mike Pennell for draft picks...any draft picks. It looks like Pennell is Danny Shelton 2.0. A good player who is having trouble fitting this scheme. It took Shelton a full year to get it and right now Pennell is standing in the way of Bryan Cowart. The guy was a proven run stopper in the Jets system. Lets do him a solid and ship him to a better place for him....and us

    3. This is my self serving trade to protect my Binky. Assuming Chung will be back with the team to start the season, and all reports seem to confirm that, I'm trading Daron Harmon to a team that needs a starting FS. Now Harmon's been a decent back up and 3rd Safety, but he's not special. But he DOES have that 3 ring pedigree and would be an asset to a team that is thin at safety. This time I'm looking for a 4th or better on this trade

    OK, that's a start. Critique mine, add yours and let's have some fun. All you need is a fertile imagination.... and some balls to pull the trigger. ;)
     
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    farn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Harmon’s level of “special” is relative. IMO, I want to keep him because he IS special. How many teams have a player that knows the system, has a knack for the big INT, can replace a player like Chung - in the SB (!), and could hold down the fort if DMac missed some games ?
     
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    The next game is Thursday, August 29th.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I love Harmon and what he's contributed. He's been a very steady 3rd Safety and normally I'd consider him a lock. But these aren't normal times. Again, assuming Chung is back, I see Harmon is being a luxury we can't afford. Add to that Brooks is a quicker and faster possible replacement who adds more ST's value. And THEN there is the "binky" factor. Harmon is standing in the way of my own personal "binky" Obi Malafanu, so, sorry he has to go. ;) But seriously we really do need to get younger at the position and Obi represents that youth movement.
     
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    I think Melifonwu is standing in the way of Melifonwu moreso than Harmon.
     
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    You’ve been on record saying you’re fine it’s chung using cocaine. I think most others won’t agree with this take. Cocaine is a powerful, horrible addictive drug that is nothing like weed. That you would defend or make excuses for chungs actions is mind blowing
     
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    I would never trade Harmon. DMac is a FA next year and Chung probably is gonna miss at least 4 games. But i would love to trade Roberts for the TE. I really liked what i saw from Munson and i don't think Pennel is gonna make the team.
     
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    How can you say he used cocaine? They found it inside his home. How many ppl live there? Guy is tested several times a year for 11 years and never had any problems.
     
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    God I hope you are kidding. Your post desperately needs an emoji for clarification.

    Now can we get this thread back on track.
     
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    With both McCourty and Chung at 32 years old Harmon is a perfect depth piece. On top of that he is also a clutch performer in the playoffs. I say keep him.
     
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    IMO the trade bait players are Pennel, Wise and Roberts. Harmon is a maybe but I don't see it right now.

    Wise to Oakland makes a lot of sense to me. Besides their pick of Ferrell (who is a rookie and will have rookie issues most most likely) they have very little pass rush there from the edge. Trade him for a 4th round pick as they don't have any players that interest me that we can get for Wise. Maybe Josh Jacobs though. I haven't like what Burkead has given us this year and I think they should move on. If they feel they need another RB he would be a good option. I'd rather have the pick though.
     
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    SBLIII In the Starting Line-Up

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    Roberts
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    Ken, I love your post man, but your binky has blinded you! Melifu has done nothing to earn a spot since preseason has begun and trading Harmon away to make room for him is unlikely. Particularly with the ages of and contract/issues with Chung and McCourty.

    It happens to all of us. We see things that aren't there when our binkies are involved. I'm still waiting on them to trade for Kahale Warring. Anytime now bill. ANY TIME NOW!
     
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    slam 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    General rule: if we can get as much as a 7th for a player we’d otherwise cut and expect to lose on waivers, it’s a good move. Dawson to Arizona for a 7th? Ok with me.
     
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    Actually, these are the same basic trade venues that I thought about Cousin. Harmon is serviceable but perhaps.....and I mean perhaps Chung is vamonosed by the League for awhile or the Pats cut him for the pure Chung stupidity.Why do professional athletes need to be in the drug scene?Just dumb.

    Another scenario is Duke Dawson. It appears he has been playing some Safety.You know BB will take heat for Dawson being a bust. If we lose Chung and there is an opportunity to trade another Pats drug guy, Harmon, there are options at Saftey.

    Perhaps you take Dawson to the Safety side of things, or we know Jason McCourty has been playing in the box . They say Obi has had a strong camp (he is just learning the Safety position). Maybe McCourty can assume the Chung role and Dawson and Obi combined, if they lose Chung, can be the Safety line up with D Mac...... with Brooks and Ebner actually more ST guys who play some? Brooks in the King ST role?

    So you have Gilmore, Jackson Williams and Jones at CB

    Then you need 4 Safeties; The two McCourtys, Dawson, Obi, keeping Ebner and Brooks as ST guys. Chung is a stupid unknown and Harmon is expendable in this case and can fetch the most trade capital and reduce the CAP some.

    Just my thoughts and the logic.
    DW Toys

    I have one more
     
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    Any of the players mentioned would not be a major loss based on what we are seeing so far IMO. I know this would not be popular with the Burkehead fans , he has been and probably is still a good player but time to move on as they say.
     
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    With all the injuries at the position, I’m just trying to figure out which scrub WR they’re going to acquire for a conditional 7th to play in next week’s game and then immediately cut.
     
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    They say Obi is having a good camp. "Nothing" might be an opinion we can't project here Cousin. Bubble? Yes.

    I have not seen Harmon stick out if we are talking pre-season play. Is that a fair statement?
    DW Toys
     
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    Moving on from Dawson seems awful quick. It sometimes takes secondary players a while to finally get it and I would not move on so quickly.
     
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    By "They" you mean you and Ken?
     
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