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Re: defamation

I do not believe Brady will file a defamation suit. I doubt he is interested in being put under discovery.

The dorito dinks are a different story. I think we will see one from them, backed by the Patriots organization. I actually believe they have a much better shot at winning such a suit than Brady has at playing football in weeks 1-4.

Remember, you sue the NFL, you are suing the Patriots. The Pats organization isn't going to back anyone who sues them for defamation.
 
Remember, you sue the NFL, you are suing the Patriots. The Pats organization isn't going to back anyone who sues them for defamation.

Good point. They certainly couldn't do it publicly that's for sure.
 
Remember, you sue the NFL, you are suing the Patriots. The Pats organization isn't going to back anyone who sues them for defamation.

Right, but wouldn't Kraft support Brady in that at this point?

This was the egregious error Kraft made last May, capitulating and trusting Goodell's word. It should have been no punishment and apologize like he said, or nothing.

Kraft striking a deal was like giving the fat kid at camp another Twinkie before bed to shut him up.
 
"Tony" = Troll

Duly noted.

Yes it was trolling but with a purpose.

It is one thing to have an informative discussion and completely another to attempt to discredit an elite poster while doing so.

I've enjoyed reading Quantum's posts as well as posts from many other obviously well educated and informed members.

If you want to bring your "sister in law" into the discussion I'll raise you family and friends whom are lawyers, doctors, DA's, Judges etc.. I communicate with a few of them weekly and enjoy the occasional thanksgiving in their home or them at mine. Funny thing is that I'm the least educated out the bunch of them as I'm just a simple wrench turning, multimeter carrying technician but I can tell you that from their perspective (and what history has proven) the information posted by Quantum and many others has been accurate and on point.

Interesting that you accuse Quantum of regurgitating information while you yourself are simply regurgitating information you've acquired from your "sister in law" or Steph. Is that not Trolling? Oh wait. I know. Your regurgitation is better than theirs, right?

Unfortunately you did show promise of being another good poster in this forum but for some reason headed down the road of discrediting or berating others without any understandable reasoning for doing so.

Now I question the validity of your sources. Does Rusty even have a "sister in law" let alone one that is an accomplished attorney? I don't know. People who wish to hog the spotlight often create fictitious labels or credits to ensure the "me, myself and I" light shines brightly on them.

It doesn't matter in the end I guess. I'll stick with Quantum and his occasional X as well as the many other posters who have posted their point of views without berating others. Btw, X simply means "I disagree" and not I think I'm better than you.
 
There is not a single shred of evidence pointing toward any plan to deflate any football on January 15, 2015.
That is the day for which violations were fabricated.

Actually, it would be more accurate to say that there is a great deal of evidence that no footballs were deflated. There were measurements taken which all fall within the range of normal for the weather conditions.

The same can't be said across the league. 30 other teams could have been playing with football deflation that day and no one would be aware of it. The Pats are the only team to have evidence presented that they didn't.
 
Right, but wouldn't Kraft support Brady in that at this point?

No, he can't. He'd be breaking the contract he has with the NFL. That's his primary legal and financial relationship and responsibility. Brady is an employee, not a partner, and belongs to the adversary group, the NFLPA.
 
Remember, you sue the NFL, you are suing the Patriots. The Pats organization isn't going to back anyone who sues them for defamation.

Does anyone care that the Patriots wouldn't back Brady?

They couldn't come after him either.
 
No, he can't. He'd be breaking the contract he has with the NFL. That's his primary legal and financial relationship and responsibility. Brady is an employee, not a partner, and belongs to the adversary group, the NFLPA.

There is no contract that guides how you answer a suit.

You can be as forthcoming as you want to be in the interests of justice.

In other words, the NFL can't come after Kraft for helping Brady.
 
No, he can't. He'd be breaking the contract he has with the NFL. That's his primary legal and financial relationship and responsibility. Brady is an employee, not a partner, and belongs to the adversary group, the NFLPA.

Right, but he doesn't have to publicly say anything or financially do anything. Just privately say "You have my support since Goodell wants to keep going"....

I don't see an issue with that.

IMO, a thread of a defamation suit should scare Goodell/the owners a lot more than Brady.
 
Keep up the good work Rusty, you have really been making a great impression here. People here think you are good enough, smart enough, and gosh darnit people like you.

Apparently, this board is vitally important to you for that very reason. Look in the mirror.

Can't be made up. Just can't.

Should I give you a gold star! Yay! Yippee!

Was this too long?
 
Yes it was trolling but with a purpose.

It is one thing to have an informative discussion and completely another to attempt to discredit an elite poster while doing so.

I've enjoyed reading Quantum's posts as well as posts from many other obviously well educated and informed members.

If you want to bring your "sister in law" into the discussion I'll raise you family and friends whom are lawyers, doctors, DA's, Judges etc.. I communicate with a few of them weekly and enjoy the occasional thanksgiving in their home or them at mine. Funny thing is that I'm the least educated out the bunch of them as I'm just a simple wrench turning, multimeter carrying technician but I can tell you that from their perspective (and what history has proven) the information posted by Quantum and many others has been accurate and on point.

Interesting that you accuse Quantum of regurgitating information while you yourself are simply regurgitating information you've acquired from your "sister in law" or Steph. Is that not Trolling? Oh wait. I know. Your regurgitation is better than theirs, right?

Unfortunately you did show promise of being another good poster in this forum but for some reason headed down the road of discrediting or berating others without any understandable reasoning for doing so.

Now I question the validity of your sources. Does Rusty even have a "sister in law" let alone one that is an accomplished attorney? I don't know. People who wish to hog the spotlight often create fictitious labels or credits to ensure the "me, myself and I" light shines brightly on them.

It doesn't matter in the end I guess. I'll stick with Quantum and his occasional X as well as the many other posters who have posted their point of views without berating others. Btw, X simply means "I disagree" and not I think I'm better than you.

I agree, but I just don't think the Lester Munson school of technical jargon trumps what will likely happen at this point, not that any of us knows.

How did I "berate" anyone, by the way? Very strange and overly sensitive.

And no, my regurgitation is not better than anyone's. I am just saying all that stuff doesn't really matter at this point.

Ted Olson has taken this on...That's a tell right there. This is either going back En Banc or it's going to get kicked up to the SC where Olson has some standing. Regardless, Goodell doesn't want to testify in any capacity or have Ginsburg embarrass him if at the SC level.

There is a reason why Goodell appealed on the basis of his powers and not how iron clad the Wells Report was. So, IMO, we're just past all of that legal mumbo jumbo after the hiring of Olson. I don't thik he takes this on without thinking he has a good chance of winning this.

Either way, I like Brady's chances. I don't put a lot of stock in technical garbage at this point, mainly because of how unique this is.

People keep referencing Garvey's case, where there was no proof of collusion. How is this not collusion with Goodell and Wells, at some level? Who knows what else the Pats have on Goodell/Wells with some other email exchanges, too. We've only seen probably a very small amount.

Meanwhile, Goodell has his hand caught in the cookie jar and still thinks he can get away with this because of a CBA?

Nowhere in the CBA does it say "the commissioner can frame a player or team even without evidence just because his all powerful"...It doesn't say that.

It's still the United States of America here, whether the Lester Munson mouthpiece types don't get that yet or not. That's what lawyers get paid to do, or at least some of them. Muddy the waters, confuse, deflect and hope no one knows what anything means.

We all know what Goodell did. He falsified a supposed "independent" report, which could lead to all kinds of charges against him down the line.
 
There is no contract that guides how you answer a suit.

You can be as forthcoming as you want to be in the interests of justice.

In other words, the NFL can't come after Kraft for helping Brady.

Exactly. They would have no way of knowing if Kraft blessed it or not.
 
There is no contract that guides how you answer a suit.

You can be as forthcoming as you want to be in the interests of justice.

In other words, the NFL can't come after Kraft for helping Brady.
Actually they probably can. Part of the NFL Constitution
http://static.nfl.com/static/content//public/static/html/careers/pdf/co_.pdf
Section3 .11 obligates the owners to support the Commissioner and decisions of the Executive Committee.
If they ( Goodell or Executive comm) say "we're fighting this" all owners have to jump...unless they can get the other owners to support a motion not to do so...
 
There is no contract that guides how you answer a suit.

You can be as forthcoming as you want to be in the interests of justice.

In other words, the NFL can't come after Kraft for helping Brady.

I get your sentiment here, but if anyone sues the NFL for defamation, they are suing Kraft. He's shown his colors on this already numerous ways, and for good reason. If Brady or one of the Dinks wins, he writes a check for 1/32 of the winnings. His personal and financial allegiances are with the other owners. All the chumminess with Brady is just for show, to get us fans to feel all warm and fuzzy about the "team" that extends up to ownership. It benefits Brady, too, by the way, in terms of his marketing appeal.
 
Apparently, this board is vitally important to you for that very reason. Look in the mirror.

Can't be made up. Just can't.

Should I give you a gold star! Yay! Yippee!

Was this too long?


Yes Rusty, too long. I think you will find that people will hold a much higher opinion of you if you limit your posts to less than one word.

I guarantee that no one wants to read the 4,000 word vomits you regularly emit.
 
Although Rusty won't read my posts he apparently quotes every one for posterity, so if someone could please inform him that people don't testify to the Supreme Court it would really help. For some reason he just can't grasp that reality.
 
Although Rusty won't read my posts he apparently quotes every one for posterity, so if someone could please inform him that people don't testify to the Supreme Court it would really help. For some reason he just can't grasp that reality.

What purpose would that serve and why would you ask someone to communicate with a self proclaimed oxidized nut job?
 
Actually they probably can. Part of the NFL Constitution
http://static.nfl.com/static/content//public/static/html/careers/pdf/co_.pdf
Section3 .11 obligates the owners to support the Commissioner and decisions of the Executive Committee.
If they ( Goodell or Executive comm) say "we're fighting this" all owners have to jump...unless they can get the other owners to support a motion not to do so...

Right.
But, that has nothing to do with how much info they turn over (or don't turn over) to a request from an opposing attorney.
Those kinds of decisions don't really constitute "help."
In other words, there is no legal way to obstruct justice.
These are individual decisions that people make.
Kraft can't be out of contract for legally complying with a court. That is just silly.
 
I get your sentiment here, but if anyone sues the NFL for defamation, they are suing Kraft. He's shown his colors on this already numerous ways, and for good reason. If Brady or one of the Dinks wins, he writes a check for 1/32 of the winnings. His personal and financial allegiances are with the other owners. All the chumminess with Brady is just for show, to get us fans to feel all warm and fuzzy about the "team" that extends up to ownership. It benefits Brady, too, by the way, in terms of his marketing appeal.

I'm just saying that he is not compelled.
If he ends up attacking Brady to protect his pocket, I'm sure someone on this board will start a thread to comment on that.
 
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