Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Off The Grid, Sep 9, 2012.
In before we get torched and have no pressure on QB.
Having an offense that is under pressure to outscore the opponent is very much like the Manning Colts
Having a D that can't get off the field, gives up countless 3rd and longs, and allows below average QB's to have career days are all reminiscent of the Manning Colts.
The D has been frustrating to watch the last couple years.
I, too, am hopeful the D is better.
Until I see it, however....
Hopefully you're right but I'll believe Kyle Love is a "disruptive force" when I see it.
Belichick has assembled a great variety of pieces to adapt in game better than we have in recent years.
Sans a few bad plays that happen to almost every D, including the likes of the 49ers, Ravens, etc., the Pats D has looked downright scary. They're flying to the ball and making sound tackles. The pass rush has made some nice plays and the back end has held up well enough. I like the new look.
One half of football is obviously not enough, but damn, the defense is looking pretty darn good today. Swarming, aggressive, tackling, making plays ... not the kind of defense we're used to seeing. Could be the 49ers out there. Jones, Hightower, Mayo, Wilfork - that's 4 big time playmakers in the front 6/7.
Have you guys noticed no mis-tackles...This is huge IMO tells me they have more speed on D...
Don't mean to kill the buzz, and I'm very pleased with the start, too, but...holy crap, it's one half against a young QB. Is this jetsinsider.com?
Nope. Just saying we're off to a nice start and the defense looks different in several key respects than what we've seen in a while. The rest will have to wait until they show they can keep it up, and do it against different teams.
A couple of things do stand out so far:
1. Dominant run D against an excellent OL and an elite RB.
2. 2 sacks against an excellent OL.
3. Very sound tackling.
If those things are truly signs of what is to come, it will be an interesting season.
Very true but there is reason to be upbeat about the potential of this defense..
Front 7 looks dominating. Secondary looks very suspect.
Very suspect? Really? Do you care to elaborate?
Front 7 looks dominating. Wilfork looks QUICK
Think back to last years first game against Chad Henne. Now think of how we looked today. It's night and day.
Yet again, this pass defense allows too many completions over 20 yards. 3 or 4 of them again in this game.
If a young, inexperienced QB like Locker can do this I shudder to think what a guy like Brees or Rodgers would do.
Either way, this pass defense has to tighten down and perform much better if this defense is going to get to dominating status as the OP suggests.
The run defense like Phill simms said could be the best in all of football..
I didn't think it looked suspect. I thought it looked solid.
-Teams playing down 15-20 points take more chances, sometimes they hook up in those situations.
-The play that Arrington got beat on was very aggressive by Tenn, I do not think anybody was expecting that bold of a call. Coverage was still tight and the pass was perfect.
-Gregory and Wilson gambled on the TD pass in the 3rd quarter. I would rather have safeties with the speed, ball skills, and play recognition to attempt those plays then what we had out on the field last year.
Overall it is week 1 and the team went out and held the Titans to under 15 points and 300 total yards. The younger corners will only improve over time. Wilson, Dowling, Moore and even McCourty and Arrington will all get better as the season goes.
Not sure yet but I DEF like what I saw with front 7. We'll see as time goes on with our secondary but I saw a difference from last year already with ferocious swarming and aggresiveness from our DBs. BEST YET was seeing Jones force fumble & High'T run it in JUST LIKE BB envisioned it with those draft choices. if anything I feel a hech'ofalot confident this year with our D than last year.
Hightower earned the '54 today. He better keep it up. Those are gigantic shoes to fill.
The secondary was spotty. But overall they were in position to make the plays. I agree with the no call on McCourty in the first. He never touched the guy. He did it later too. There is no facemasking in the NFL as long as you don't touch the guy in an aggressive way. Its totally allowed to get all up in his face.
I just wish he would learn to turn.
Both were picks waiting to happen. He had the position.
This defense is a work in progress. For them to look this good, this early, really bodes well for what this defense will ultimately be after Thanksgiving.
Also, usually the players who turn out to be gr8 show signs early. Jones, Hightower, and Wilson couldn't have had a more promising start to their careers.
Are there STILL any Pats fans who feel Tavon Wilson was a bad pick?
And "No", he would not have been there 2-3 rounds later.
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