The Official Vrabel vs Ben Johnson Discussion Thread

[tuckeverlasting]

I was a huge audiophile til I met my wife.
She hates loud audio, and bass,
I told all my speakers and subs and audio components.
My favorite component back in the day was a Hardman Karson cd recorder player. It was the first cd burner on the market I believe and I made some nice side money burning and selling cds. But the audio quality on that cd player I’ve never heard a cd player with better sound quality.

i used to manage a tweeter. do you mean harman kardon ?

 

[Stu Pidassle]

And they are right, Mahomes is a 1st ballot HOF QB.

No doubt. QB > scheme

 

[Love The Drake]

i used to manage a tweeter. do you mean harman kardon ?

Yeah mistype

 

[Huckleberry1]

You want Vrabel then as that is what he ran in TN

I don’t know which offense Vrabel ran in Tennessee, and I know it’s unlikely I will get what I want given their candidates for HC and OC. That doesn’t change what I want, I just realize it’s unlikely I will get it. And like I said, I’m not going to ***** about it. I hated BOB, and did not want him to return, but once he did I didn’t say a word about it, and rotted for them to succeed.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t know which offense Vrabel ran in Tennessee, and I know it’s unlikely I will get what I want given their candidates for HC and OC. That doesn’t change what I want, I just realize it’s unlikely I will get it. And like I said, I’m not going to ***** about it. I hated BOB, and did not want him to return, but once he did I didn’t say a word about it, and rotted for them to succeed.

TN ran WC. I highly doubt he brings in Josh.

If Vrabes comes here they are running WC

 

[Big Bucks]

Well, we disagree on that. When the opportunity is there to get your franchise QB you take it, they don’t come along very often. Wolf was right to pass on the deals and take Maye.

Fair enough

 

[tuckeverlasting]

i want 2 qb's, if not 3, drafted in front of us so sanders maneuvering his son is bs to me. hunter or carter all day.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Because its the my way to say how much I prefer him as HC. (I know you don't have too)

I don't want smashmouth football.. I also want them to knock down Gillete or put a roof on it.. so we can throw instead of smashmouth because of the fricken weather.. sucks the weather dictates IMO how we play on offence.

Sounds like Arena football
I like the cold weather and snow games
I love the passing game but
Running the ball is a huge part of the game
Turns into a huge advantage for those cold weather teams when they play the sunbathers

 

[Huckleberry1]

You want Vrabel then as that is what he ran in TN

Took me a second to remember that it was Arthur Smith. Similar to what Ben Johnson and Tommy Rees run. Run heavy, creative off the run game.

 

[Brotherblues]

I was all-in building the two lines before getting the QB.. IMO pointless the QB unless you get the basics done first..

It's not so black and white. If you're looking at drafting someone like Maye versus an offensive lineman you also need, you take Maye and figure out the rest after.

If you're looking at Shedeur versus a premium offensive lineman... Then yeah, grab the lineman.

 

[Huckleberry1]

TN ran WC. I highly doubt he brings in Josh.

If Vrabes comes here they are running WC

I hope you are right, Smith ran a run heavy offense, but it was zone blocking schemes, which I believe are more associated with WC schemes.

 

[signbabybrady]

i want 2 qb's, if not 3, drafted in front of us so sanders maneuvering his son is bs to me. hunter or carter all day.

Who's even the 3rd QB?

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's not so black and white. If you're looking at drafting someone like Maye versus an offensive lineman you also need, you take Maye and figure out the rest after.

If you're looking at Shedeur versus a premium offensive lineman... Then yeah, grab the lineman.

Except there are no premiere OL in this draft, nor any premiere QB’s, which is another reason why they had to go QB last year.

 

[Aussie Patriot]

Well if we are going to go run heavy we also need to have a real threat RB.

Stevenson tends to be good until he gets banged up or tired and of course his fumbling is a major issue that needs to be fixed.

I like Gibson a lot more than what they gave him chances but he's not a real RB threat and is a more hand off catch or run type imo.

And of course you need an OL to sucessfully run as well.

The issue is we have holes everywhere. sigh

 

[RobertWeathers]

Took me a second to remember that it was Arthur Smith. Similar to what Ben Johnson and Tommy Rees run. Run heavy, creative off the run game.

The thing about Johnson is as a coach he was in the Spread, WC and EP in MIA

 

[Sect140]

Because its the my way to say how much I prefer him as HC. (I know you don't have too)

I don't want smashmouth football.. I also want them to knock down Gillete or put a roof on it.. so we can throw instead of smashmouth because of the fricken weather.. sucks the weather dictates IMO how we play on offence.

Doesn’t Detroit run the a lot? They should with those running backs and O-Line. Maybe he could bring the O-Line and backs with him. One can dream.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I hope you are right, Smith ran a run heavy offense, but it was zone blocking schemes, which I believe are more associated with WC schemes.

Yes but it was heavy run b/c of the elite talent they had at RB and the average talent at qb

 

[Sect140]

The day they move into a dome is the day I give up my tickets. LOL!

 

[Big Bucks]

I don’t know which offense Vrabel ran in Tennessee, and I know it’s unlikely I will get what I want given their candidates for HC and OC. That doesn’t change what I want, I just realize it’s unlikely I will get it. And like I said, I’m not going to ***** about it. I hated BOB, and did not want him to return, but once he did I didn’t say a word about it, and rotted for them to succeed.

Look at how many times he ran Henry.. two or seasons in the 350s I believe.. missed half a season in 2019 due to injury so was pretty durable.
As you know Henry is unbelievable and definitely defies the old adage of running a player into the ground

take out rookie year of 215 attempts the following four seasons under Vrabel were 303, 378, 219, 349.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

Who's even the 3rd QB?

i think milroe will impress at the combine and there could be others when teams get desperate.